One-Make Championship may 19th.

[Jawehawk]

Get ready for an intense championship, featuring 4 different cars on 4 different tracks. Your succes in this race will depend solely on your skill.


General info: The lobby will be opened at 17.00GMT, with the first race starting at 18.00GMT.
Should you wish to participate in the event, you have to sign up in this thread, or by PM to me. Furthermore you have to attend at least one practice session, in order to prove yourself capable of driving clean and fair. There will be plenty of practice sessions to join before the event.

Participants will aquire points based on the position they finish in, in the different races.

1st receives 25 points.
2nd receives 20 points.
3rd receives 15 points.
4th receives 10 points.
5th receives 8 points.
6th and 7th receives 5 points.
8th, 9th and 10th receives 3 points.
0 points for anyone finishing above 10th place.

If you sign up, I expect you to be commited. Should something prevent you from joining, you need to PM me as soon as possible. Furthermore, I expect participants to stay up to date on rules, and to not quit the race under any circumstances. If you can't follow these simple rules, then don't bother signing up. I've had it with people who sign up, only to forget about it the next day.


Event info: This championship is held on four different tracks. All races will be One-Makes, with car model changing for each track. Every race will have tire/fuel wear enabled, with grip set to real and slipstream set to low. Boost will be set to off. For the sake of compitition, grid starting positions will be set to reversed grid, so that the winners of one race, will start at the back of the grid in the next race.


1st. Race: 14 laps with the Lotus Elise '96 on Circuit de Madrid.

Car is to remain stock with the only changes allowed being oil, rims and color. Tires will be Comfort Soft, and damage will be enabled. All aids, including ABS, will be disabled. Yeah, that's right. The real car didn't have ABS, so neither will you!

1st Race results:
1st. ADR_BRONCO
2nd. M8h3r + 30.000
3rd. Andy_Macnab + 1.30.000
4th. JohnWells69 + 2.00.000
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2nd. Race: 18 laps with the Lotus Elise 111R '04 on Tsukuba Circuit.

Car is to remain stock with the only changes allowed being oil, rims and color. Tires will be Sport Hard, and damage will be enabled. All aids except ABS, will be disabled. How lucky you all are that Lotus decided to include ABS in the 2nd Series of the Elise.

2nd Race results:
1st. ADR_BRONCO
2nd. Andy-Macnab + 04.566
3rd. M8h3r + 13.867
4th. JohnWells69 + 33.867
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3rd. Race: 10 laps with the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. SCP ’99 on the West section of Chamonix.

Car is to remain stock with the only changes allowed being oil, rims and color. Participants are allowed to tune the AYC and Aerodynamics(stock spoiler) to their own liking. Tires will of course be snow tires, and damage will be disabled. Damage being disabled does not mean you are allowed to just bounce off every wall. Drive properly! All aids, including ABS, will be disabled. Expect snow.

3rd Race results:
1st. MSTER(DQ'd - He won't be given points. Points are destributed as if 2nd was 1st, and 3rd was 2nd.)
2nd. Andy_Macnab + 01.174
3rd. ADR_BRONCO + 02.095
4th. M8h3r + 27.878
5th. JohnWells69 + --
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4th. Race: 9 laps with the Lexus LFA '10 on the 2009 layout of Circuit de La Sarthe.

Car is to remain stock with the only changes allowed being oil, rims and color. Tires will be Sport Hard, and damage will be enabled. All aids except ABS will be disabled. There won't be any rain during the race, though it will be pitch black, as our race starts at 04.40 at night. Expect to see a nice sunrise when exiting the Dunlop Chicane.

4th Race results:
1st. Andy-Macnab
2nd. MSTER + 1.07.853 (DQ'd - He won't be given points. Points are destributed as if 2nd was 1st, and 3rd was 2nd.)
3rd. M8h3r + 1.40.954
4th. JohnWells69 + --
5th. ADR_BRONCO (left at the second half of lap 8, after having been in 2nd throughout the majority of the race.)
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Rules and guidelines: In my events, you're off track as soon as you have less than two wheels on the track(Tarmac). Should you go slightly off track on rare occasions, it's nothing to worry about. However, if you go off track by more than a car width, I expect you to slow down, and re-enter. Of course you should always take care not to re-enter the track right in front of other drivers.

You will of course do your best to drive clean and fair. Should you be responsible for damaging another driver, you will escort him/her to the pits. If you obtain damage to more than one wheel, you are required to pit.

When driving without ABS, you are allowed to alter your Brake Balance. When driving with ABS, it has to remain at stock setting(5/5).

Participants:

GTP/PSN nick: Jawehawk/Andy-Macnab

GTP/PSN nick: m8h3r/m8h3r

GTP/PSN nick: Dragonwar233/ADR_BRONCO

GTP/PSN nick: MSTER232/MSTER232

GTP/PSN nick: John Wells/JohnWells69

GTP/PSN nick: FakeGangstaDIE/cam_from_nj



Overall Race Results:

Andy_Macnab - 85 points

M8h3r - 70 points

ADR_BRONCO - 70 points

JohnWells69 - 45 points​

 

[m8h3r]

Put me down 👍

I'm racing on "m8h3r" this time.

Edit: Just to get this out of the way now.

Along the Main Straight you have the red parts to the right and left of the track. Are they part of the track or to be treated as rumble strips?

Edit2:

Thats on Circuit De La Sarthe 👍

 

[Dragonwar233]

Count me as in as always.

 

[MSTER232]

Count me in .

 

[Jawehawk]

Along the Main Straight you have the red parts to the right and left of the track. Are they part of the track or to be treated as rumble strips?

Edit2:

Thats on Circuit De La Sarthe 👍

Well, in real life, I do believe that drivers have to keep at least two wheels on the actual road at all times. Lets just say that participants should try to keep at least 2 wheels off the red part of the road at all times. Drivers aren't allowed to pass on the red part of the track, unless absolutely necessary.

On another note. Drivers should take extreme care to remain on track at the end of the Porsche Curves. It is not okay to go off track in order to carry more speed through a corner. Drivers also need to stay on the actual track at the end of the Mulsanne Straight, and not go beyond the left side of the track in order to get a better entrance into the corner. Also take extra care at the Tertre turn.

On top of all this, beware of any drivers not using ABS. THe LFA is a real bastard to do heavy braking with, espicially at the end of the Mulsanne Straight.

 

[m8h3r]

Well, in real life, I do believe that drivers have to keep at least two wheels on the actual road at all times. Lets just say that participants should try to keep at least 2 wheels off the red part of the road at all times. Drivers aren't allowed to pass on the red part of the track, unless absolutely necessary.

On another note. Drivers should take extreme care to remain on track at the end of the Porsche Curves. It is not okay to go off track in order to carry more speed through a corner. Drivers also need to stay on the actual track at the end of the Mulsanne Straight, and not go beyond the left side of the track in order to get a better entrance into the corner. Also take extra care at the Tertre turn.

On top of all this, beware of any drivers not using ABS. THe LFA is a real bastard to do heavy braking with, espicially at the end of the Mulsanne Straight.

Tertre, is that after the big straight you do a right turn and at the end of that, the sort of right kink then left turn?

 

[Jawehawk]

Tertre, is that after the big straight you do a right turn and at the end of that, the sort of right kink then left turn?

Tertre is where you turn into the Mulsanne Straight.

 

[m8h3r]

Tertre is where you turn into the Mulsanne Straight.

That's such a simple corner yet I don't think I've ever seen a person do it properly. With exception to myself of course

 

[MattieM]

I'm going to skip this one. To much no ABS and i'm not really into rally with GT5. I probably will join the F430 vs Gallardo one you were talking about.
Maybe i'll join some of your practise sessions if you need to fill the starting grid.

I tried the GT academy yesterday and managed to get within the top 2000 at the first 3 tests with the Nissan Silvia. My goal is to beat at least all people in my friends list . A german dude in my list gave me a run for my money, but i got him on the first 3. Now the rest of the tests. Getting within the top 10 is simply not possible with DS3, still 3/10th to half a second down... I didn't bother to try the Leaf test seriously, i just hate that stupid thing.

 

[Jawehawk]

I'm going to skip this one. To much no ABS and i'm not really into rally with GT5. I probably will join the F430 vs Gallardo one you were talking about.
Maybe i'll join some of your practise sessions if you need to fill the starting grid.

Dude, just alter the brake balance. I demand that you participate in the event!

I've been doing some testing for the Scuderia VS Gallardo, and I'm not sure it would be an even fight. At least not on stock tires. The Gallardo is just soo much more stable.

 

[m8h3r]

Dude, just alter the brake balance. I demand that you participate in the event!

I've been doing some testing for the Scuderia VS Gallardo, and I'm not sure it would be an even fight. At least not on stock tires. The Gallardo is just soo much more stable.

Maybe Gallardo on Comfort soft, Ferrari on Sport hard? Or medium? May even it out. Of course you then rely on racers to use the correct tires.

 

[MattieM]

Dude, just alter the brake balance. I demand that you participate in the event!

Sorry, can't do. The only race that looks interesting to me is the race with the LFA and also maybe the Elise at tsubuka.

I've been doing some testing for the Scuderia VS Gallardo, and I'm not sure it would be an even fight. At least not on stock tires. The Gallardo is just soo much more stable.

How do they compare in laptimes? I did some testing yesterday with the F430 scuderia at Cape Ring South. Tonight i will put the gallardo to the test. As it comes to PP's they are about the same, so they should be just as fast too. From my on-line experience i can say the PP system is flawed. No way you can beat a 550 PP LFA with a 550 PP SLS amg for example.

 

[Jawehawk]

I didn't do a ton of testing, but In just 1 out lap with the Gallardo, I got a lap time 3 seconds faster than I could get with 3 out laps with the F430. This was done on Spa. I will do more testing tomorrow.

Sport medium certainly evens the playing field. On top of that, I think the Gallardo is harder on the tires.

 

[Jawehawk]

No interest in this championship?
If I changed the first race to feature the Daihatsu OFC-1 Concept(has ABS), would you then consider joining Mattie?

The Ferrari VS Lambo thread is up. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7067520#post7067520

 

[MSTER232]

No interest in this championship?
If I changed the first race to feature the Daihatsu OFC-1 Concept(has ABS), would you then consider joining Mattie?

The Ferrari VS Lambo thread is up. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7067520#post7067520

Don't feel bad, you did better than me. I started an NSX Racing Series championship quite a few days ago, but I don't think not even one contestant has signed up since. If you guys are interested then I guess I could post a link to it. And I would be quite interested in the Ferrari VS Lambo race, not sure which car I would use yet.

 

[m8h3r]

Don't feel bad, you did better than me. I started an NSX Racing Series championship quite a few days ago, but I don't think not even one contestant has signed up since. If you guys are interested then I guess I could post a link to it. And I would be quite interested in the Ferrari VS Lambo race, not sure which car I would use yet.

My hatchback challenge got 2 participents and my Ferrari F10 got 1. You're not alone Jawehawk, DON'T GIVE UP

 

[MattieM]

No interest in this championship?
If I changed the first race to feature the Daihatsu OFC-1 Concept(has ABS), would you then consider joining Mattie?

I don't know what makes me happier, a lotus without ABS or a daihatsu with ABS . I'm not really into rally driving either, so i still won't join. But don't change the races to my likings, you got to do what you like to do.

I think the vast majority of GT5 players play with ABS (is there a poll on GT planet where this question is asked?) and preferably also with Racing Soft tyres. People who drive with other than racing tyres are in the minority, and those brave enough to drive without ABS and tyres less than the racing compound are a rare breed i guess. Possibly thats why this event will not attract a lot of participants .

Yesterday i did some more testing to compare the Gallardo with other cars. Test track was Cape Ring South with grip set to real and tyre wear off for the sake of comparison. Sports Hard tyres were equipped. I did about 10 to 20 laps with each car, the laptimes below are the fastest one. They're decent, but quicker also is possible.

Lamborghini Gallardo 1:21:126
Mercedes SLS AMG 1:21:455
Lexus LFA 1:22:017
Ferrari F430 Scud 1:22:107
Ferrari 599 GTB 1:22:987

Cape ring is a pretty short track (and fun too), so on larger tracks the difference may become bigger.

 

[m8h3r]

Lamborghini Gallardo 1:21:126
Mercedes SLS AMG 1:21:455
Lexus LFA 1:22:017
Ferrari F430 Scud 1:22:107
Ferrari 599 GTB 1:22:987

Cape ring is a pretty short track (and fun too), so on larger tracks the difference may become bigger.

Hmm a SLS and LFA shootout would possibly be quite close. Maybe this should be kept in mind for a future event.

 

[MSTER232]

I think the vast majority of GT5 players play with ABS (is there a poll on GT planet where this question is asked?) and preferably also with Racing Soft tyres. People who drive with other than racing tyres are in the minority, and those brave enough to drive without ABS and tyres less than the racing compound are a rare breed i guess. Possibly thats why this event will not attract a lot of participants .

Well in previous GT games, you was forced to play using ABS. And I guess I am in the minority that doesn't like using racing soft tyres and also in the even smaller minority that's brave enough to drive without ABS on a compound other than racing tyres . People aren't really daring these days, are they?

 

[John Wells]

Can I sign up Andy:tup:

Dont worry about hitting me after being sick, will make your wheel very sticky

 

[Jawehawk]

Anyone up for a practice session tonight at 18.00GMT?

Been doing some more testing with the LFA on La Sarthe. My god is it a difficult car on that track with stock tires.
It's too bad that the fuel display doesn't work in the car. If it did, I could run the race without any HUD.

 

[m8h3r]

Anyone up for a practice session tonight at 18.00GMT?

Been doing some more testing with the LFA on La Sarthe. My god is it a difficult car on that track with stock tires.
It's too bad that the fuel display doesn't work in the car. If it did, I could run the race without any HUD.

I could do with practice. I'll try and be there 👍

 

[MSTER232]

Anyone up for a practice session tonight at 18.00GMT?

Been doing some more testing with the LFA on La Sarthe. My god is it a difficult car on that track with stock tires.
It's too bad that the fuel display doesn't work in the car. If it did, I could run the race without any HUD.

I would be up for practice tonight. I would have to quickly buy the rest of the cars on the list though, I don't think I have all of them.

 

[Jawehawk]

Room is up. 1472-6118-3658-4757-8007.

 

[John Wells]

I need to go and buy some of the cars to:tup:

I allso dont mind driving without ABS if the car didnt have it

Driving I do not drive with Racing Soft tyres, unless its a race car, much to easy if you fit them to a stock car

 

[MSTER232]

I need to go and buy some of the cars to:tup:

I allso dont mind driving without ABS if the car didnt have it

Driving I do not drive with Racing Soft tyres, unless its a race car, much to easy if you fit them to a stock car

Well at least in my opinion, Racing Soft tyres are much too grippy to be called realistic. The only type of car they're probably realistic on is Group C cars and that's just about it. It shouldn't even be in the game really, but I can't complain because GT4 had Racing Super Soft / Qualifier tyres !

 

[m8h3r]

Yesterdays practice:

Elise '96 - A Nice car and track combination. The car can understeer the pull out massive oversteer sometimes though. The lack of ABS can easily catch you out however.

Elise '04 - The car drives pretty stable with the Sports Hard tires on it. A simple track which will produce a lot of battles. As Jawehawk pointed out yesterday it would be a great race with a full grid.

Mitsubishi - I don't have much to say about this one. I am pretty bad at rally and trying to get this down the straightaway with the "bumps" that feel more like full on jumps is a real challenge.

LFA - Nice car to drive, can understeer and oversteer a lot due to the tires but this coupled with the track makes for a nice challenge. Braking on the straights is the hardest part of this, especially at the start of the race when it will be dark and have a load of cars bunched up.


Overall I'd say Jawehawk picked a nice few races here, the Elise '96 I need practice on and the Mitsubishi is pretty much a write off before I even put my foot down.

I got bored

 

[MSTER232]

Yesterdays practice:

Elise '96 - Loads of oversteer and you can't control when it's going to happen. It's like it's completely got a mind of it's own, and it doesn't want you to win.

Fixed that for you. At least in my opinion .

 

[m8h3r]

Fixed that for you. At least in my opinion .

It is pretty random

 

[Jawehawk]

Next practice session on sunday at 11.00GMT.