Online racing: Too competitive?

[CodeRedR51]

I've actually stopped browsing through the online race activities as much as I used to, because no matter where I go I see members talking about how they ran a quick time in this race, or ran a better time in another race.

Honestly, IMO, online racing isn't about lap records.

I consider myself a good player, and have played GT since the beginning. But when I get online, I feel like a total newb. I actually finished 2nd the other day in the FWD race out of 12 total cars, and felt good that my good driving is what got me there. I paid no attention to my lap times, and I have no idea what my total time was. My attention was at running a good race with minimal contact and great lines. To me, online racing is just that. It's about the door to door racing. If we have players only concentrating on running super fast lap times, they leave everyone behind and it leads to more boring races than not.

Am I right? Or just blowing off hot air?

 

[L_Hamilton]

Your right man. It's all about consistency and keeping your nose clean. This is a qualifying session where all you do is drop hot laps than just talk about how quick you went. Back in the Suzuka 750 days, I used to run 1'57.xx and consistent. Not like "O snap I got that lap!! "then all the rest were 2'00.xx. Being fast doesn't overtake the guy in front of you. Takes skill to make a clean pass.

My two cents. ^_^

 

[Noah]

Your right man. It's all about consistency and keeping your nose clean. This is a qualifying session where all you do is drop hot laps than just talk about how quick you went. Back in the Suzuka 750 days, I used to run 1'57.xx and consistent. Not like "O snap I got that lap!! "then all the rest were 2'00.xx. Being fast doesn't overtake the guy in front of you. Takes skill to make a clean pass.

My two cents. ^_^

Well put....

 

[QSpec]

I don't pay attention to top times online, because too many people cut across the grass and stuff to get a high time, that they aren't being true to the track. Occasionally you'll have a good quality race with someone who honestly stays on the track and tries to race you fair. I think those races are funner than being by yourself, even though they are rare to find.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I had a race about a week ago in the 550pp RWD event. Me and another player, both in 1-series tii BMW's for all five laps swapped the lead four times and finished bumper to bumper.

^^^ That is what I want to see. Just wish there was more of that.

 

[Mad94d]

The idea is too be fast and consistent. I back the pace off by about .5 in races to make sure i'm consistent. Speed is important because you can catch and pass people easier. So I think lap times do matter. But I do lots of time trials, so lap times are important to me.

 

[ripping_silk]

I've actually stopped browsing through the online race activities as much as I used to, because no matter where I go I see members talking about how they ran a quick time in this race, or ran a better time in another race.

Honestly, IMO, online racing isn't about lap records.

I consider myself a good player, and have played GT since the beginning. But when I get online, I feel like a total newb. I actually finished 2nd the other day in the FWD race out of 12 total cars, and felt good that my good driving is what got me there. I paid no attention to my lap times, and I have no idea what my total time was. My attention was at running a good race with minimal contact and great lines. To me, online racing is just that. It's about the door to door racing. If we have players only concentrating on running super fast lap times, they leave everyone behind and it leads to more boring races than not.

Am I right? Or just blowing off hot air?

Racing is defined as a competition of speed.
Racing is about winning, to compete to be the fastest.. I raced IRL to win, I race online to win. Most often I can't win, as there are better, more skilled (and more consistent) drivers out there. That being the case, second option is to race to the best of my ability and let the results fall where they may. A good race is door to door, clean lines AND good lap times. As is always the case with racing, there are differing skill levels, and while it may be true that some racers concentrate on super fast lap times, other do too, and therefore the bar gets raised. These 'superfast' racers compete against each other in a race, and the drivers of lesser speed also compete amongst themselves in the competition of speed, to see who makes the finish line first. If you are not in the game to improve your performance (your laptime), your not racing, you're on a Sunday drive.
A clean consistent lap time is what we all aim to achieve, we do the best we can to compete against others. I believe it diminishes the art of racing to separate the superfast drivers from the rest, it gives the impression that you think they are 'too' good.
Racing is about being humble. Very (very) few drivers can say they are the best but no matter how good you are, there is someone of equivalent skill and these are the people you race against to win against them.
Superfast drivers also have other superfast drivers to compete against. Why should their ethics in racing be any different than yours? They still want to compete against drivers of equivalent skill and win against them, using clean, consistent laptimes, but as is the nature of anything involving skill, its lonely at the top. I'm very very sure they guys at the top appreciate a close clean race as much as anyone, perhaps even more, as it probably happens less often that it does with us others down in the fat part of the pyramid.
Racing is about winning, but for the vast majority its about losing. Even though I lose, I still aim to win and to improve my performance to do just that. Thats why i race, and call myself a racer.

 

[Chadwicksracing]

Your right man. It's all about consistency and keeping your nose clean. This is a qualifying session where all you do is drop hot laps than just talk about how quick you went. Back in the Suzuka 750 days, I used to run 1'57.xx and consistent. Not like "O snap I got that lap!! "then all the rest were 2'00.xx. Being fast doesn't overtake the guy in front of you. Takes skill to make a clean pass.

My two cents. ^_^

YOu never ran that fast Ham. What car?

heh, speaking of competition..ahum *Cough*

 

[Sphinx]

Racing is defined as a competition of speed.
Racing is about winning, to compete to be the fastest.. I raced IRL to win, I race online to win. Most often I can't win, as there are better, more skilled (and more consistent) drivers out there. That being the case, second option is to race to the best of my ability and let the results fall where they may. A good race is door to door, clean lines AND good lap times. As is always the case with racing, there are differing skill levels, and while it may be true that some racers concentrate on super fast lap times, other do too, and therefore the bar gets raised. These 'superfast' racers compete against each other in a race, and the drivers of lesser speed also compete amongst themselves in the competition of speed, to see who makes the finish line first. If you are not in the game to improve your performance (your laptime), your not racing, you're on a Sunday drive.
A clean consistent lap time is what we all aim to achieve, we do the best we can to compete against others. I believe it diminishes the art of racing to separate the superfast drivers from the rest, it gives the impression that you think they are 'too' good.
Racing is about being humble. Very (very) few drivers can say they are the best but no matter how good you are, there is someone of equivalent skill and these are the people you race against to win against them.
Superfast drivers also have other superfast drivers to compete against. Why should their ethics in racing be any different than yours? They still want to compete against drivers of equivalent skill and win against them, using clean, consistent laptimes, but as is the nature of anything involving skill, its lonely at the top. I'm very very sure they guys at the top appreciate a close clean race as much as anyone, perhaps even more, as it probably happens less often that it does with us others down in the fat part of the pyramid.
Racing is about winning, but for the vast majority its about losing. Even though I lose, I still aim to win and to improve my performance to do just that. Thats why i race, and call myself a racer.

Couldn't of said it better myself. 👍

 

[Jack]

Ham didnt you have a competition with DK too see who was faster Only kidding

Online racing is competitive. Alot of it is about lap times in the early stages of an online event. People look at these times to see what they need to aim for. They try to make their tune as fast as they can.

Its competitive out there but Id say its the most fun its been. People are getting faster and faster and the races are great!

 

[L_Hamilton]

YOu never ran that fast Ham. What car?

heh, speaking of competition..ahum *Cough*

The Mine's BNR of course .

Ham didnt you have a competition with DK too see who was faster Only kidding

Online racing is competitive. Alot of it is about lap times in the early stages of an online event. People look at these times to see what they need to aim for. They try to make their tune as fast as they can.

Its competitive out there but Id say its the most fun its been. People are getting faster and faster and the races are great!

I you mean my Mine's vs his faster Vette?

 

[Ardius]

I've actually stopped browsing through the online race activities as much as I used to, because no matter where I go I see members talking about how they ran a quick time in this race, or ran a better time in another race.

Honestly, IMO, online racing isn't about lap records.

I consider myself a good player, and have played GT since the beginning. But when I get online, I feel like a total newb. I actually finished 2nd the other day in the FWD race out of 12 total cars, and felt good that my good driving is what got me there. I paid no attention to my lap times, and I have no idea what my total time was. My attention was at running a good race with minimal contact and great lines. To me, online racing is just that. It's about the door to door racing. If we have players only concentrating on running super fast lap times, they leave everyone behind and it leads to more boring races than not.

Am I right? Or just blowing off hot air?

Sounds like you're just blowing off hot air to be honest Perhaps you should worry less about keeping up with those who pursue fast times and just look for drivers of your skill level for you to race against?

I don't see any reason why you would be bothered about other people discussing fast times, why can't they do that? It sounds to me like you had one too many races where you were left in the dust by other drivers or you've tried to run some time trials and have come up with just frustration. Either way, you shouldn't let this kind of stuff bother you, what other people do has little relation to how you obtain your personal fun from games.
I'm not trying to belittle you here, I'm just saying that you shouldn't let faster drivers get to you.

 

[mr_VOLCANO]

Too competitive? People is finaly learning to drive more consistent. Im not one of the super fast guys, but earlyer in GT days people was too slow and no control, I think its much better now, higher chance of a close race

 

[uk86ze]

Not everyone can be Lewis Hamilton racing online but most can be like Jenson Button. I normaly race events where the fastest Gtp members take part in and ime about 1-2 seconds slower per lap than these guys but still love racing against them.

 

[DaddyVDUB]

Very well said,doesnt bother me that a LOT of folks are faster,or better racers than me.Only those that use the shortcutting,or dirty driving to obtain that.I use these games as entertainment and when its not fun,I do something else. I mean after all it is racing the goal is to be faster.

 

[Dragonistic]

I'm in there for the thrill of the battle, the chase, the getaway, however it may be. I don't pay attention to lap times because I'm to busy driving the wheels off my car trying to do the best I can. For me it's push as hard as possible start to finish, if I win I win, if not, I know I did my best, and I'm usually pleased no matter where I finish, as long as I finish.

 

[RSwagoneer]

Racing is defined as a competition of speed.
Racing is about winning, to compete to be the fastest.. I raced IRL to win, I race online to win. Most often I can't win, as there are better, more skilled (and more consistent) drivers out there. That being the case, second option is to race to the best of my ability and let the results fall where they may. A good race is door to door, clean lines AND good lap times. As is always the case with racing, there are differing skill levels, and while it may be true that some racers concentrate on super fast lap times, other do too, and therefore the bar gets raised. These 'superfast' racers compete against each other in a race, and the drivers of lesser speed also compete amongst themselves in the competition of speed, to see who makes the finish line first. If you are not in the game to improve your performance (your laptime), your not racing, you're on a Sunday drive.
A clean consistent lap time is what we all aim to achieve, we do the best we can to compete against others. I believe it diminishes the art of racing to separate the superfast drivers from the rest, it gives the impression that you think they are 'too' good.
Racing is about being humble. Very (very) few drivers can say they are the best but no matter how good you are, there is someone of equivalent skill and these are the people you race against to win against them.
Superfast drivers also have other superfast drivers to compete against. Why should their ethics in racing be any different than yours? They still want to compete against drivers of equivalent skill and win against them, using clean, consistent laptimes, but as is the nature of anything involving skill, its lonely at the top. I'm very very sure they guys at the top appreciate a close clean race as much as anyone, perhaps even more, as it probably happens less often that it does with us others down in the fat part of the pyramid.
Racing is about winning, but for the vast majority its about losing. Even though I lose, I still aim to win and to improve my performance to do just that. Thats why i race, and call myself a racer.

Amen to that. Spot on 👍 to my thoughts

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I've actually stopped browsing through the online race activities as much as I used to, because no matter where I go I see members talking about how they ran a quick time in this race, or ran a better time in another race.

Honestly, IMO, online racing isn't about lap records.

I consider myself a good player, and have played GT since the beginning. But when I get online, I feel like a total newb. I actually finished 2nd the other day in the FWD race out of 12 total cars, and felt good that my good driving is what got me there. I paid no attention to my lap times, and I have no idea what my total time was. My attention was at running a good race with minimal contact and great lines. To me, online racing is just that. It's about the door to door racing. If we have players only concentrating on running super fast lap times, they leave everyone behind and it leads to more boring races than not.

Am I right? Or just blowing off hot air?

Totally agree, and I pay no attention to lap times as I race as you can see how well you are doing by where you are running.

Hot laps are for time trials.

 

[RSwagoneer]

I'm in there for the thrill of the battle, the chase, the getaway, however it may be. I don't pay attention to lap times because I'm to busy driving the wheels off my car trying to do the best I can. For me it's push as hard as possible start to finish, if I win I win, if not, I know I did my best, and I'm usually pleased no matter where I finish, as long as I finish.

Same here 👍

 

[CodeRedR51]

Sounds like you're just blowing off hot air to be honest Perhaps you should worry less about keeping up with those who pursue fast times and just look for drivers of your skill level for you to race against?

I don't see any reason why you would be bothered about other people discussing fast times, why can't they do that? It sounds to me like you had one too many races where you were left in the dust by other drivers or you've tried to run some time trials and have come up with just frustration. Either way, you shouldn't let this kind of stuff bother you, what other people do has little relation to how you obtain your personal fun from games.
I'm not trying to belittle you here, I'm just saying that you shouldn't let faster drivers get to you.

I don't actually run in the time trials because I know that with my minimal knowledge on producing race winning setups, I'm going to be WAY down the list anyway. So there is no point. Plus racing with other cars is more fun. I just wish people would talk more about the racing, and not how fast they can run.

 

[Peter]

That's EXACTLY how i always feel. Everytime i go into race chat, everyone is talking about "hey i'm running 2:04.000 in my gtr." Online racing is for laptimes AND how good you did in your race and what happened in it.

PS. don't be an ass by rubbing in that you came 1st or you got 2:01:000.

 

[uk86ze]

I came 4th and did a 1:58.989

Edit: I could not resist.

 

[superwally]

I think you may be misinterpreting the discussion, or you are in races with pricks. For the race events I have participated in, the discussion of particular lap times was a means of determining a competitive speed/car setup for the race, not a way to brag about reeling off a fast lap.

Who is in front at the finish is all that matters.

 

[MJH]

Too competitive? People is finaly learning to drive more consistent. Im not one of the super fast guys, but earlyer in GT days people was too slow and no control, I think its much better now, higher chance of a close race

+1. My aim on this game is to be faster than everybody else (but not at all costs), not that i'm anywhere near that lol. Some of my friends will remember how bad i was when i first started playing back in june. I've improved a lot since then, and can now give people good races. Knowing what times people are running is one thing that helps me.

 

[African Kat]

I think fast lap times is a result of trying to win, and trying to win is part of the fun. But close, clean racing is much more fun and if i had a race like that, i usually don't worry about my final position much.

the other day i had a 10 lap duel with an NSX and it was so close that i could'nt make a clean pass until the last bend on the 10th lap under braking( Suzuka)

That was to get 2nd place!

I received a message shortly after, from the NSX driver stating: "f*#* you"

Now thats too competitive

 

[Flogger]

I had a great battle yesterday with an M3 ( I had a 430) at Fuji650. The last straight was a door to door drag race, and he beat me by .008. No bumping or anything!

 

[Ghoa$t]

YOu never ran that fast Ham. What car?

heh, speaking of competition..ahum *Cough*

...of all the people to post in this thread......you're out of your league BOY!

The Mine's BNR of course .


I you mean my Mine's vs his faster Vette?

the s2k was faster than the vette, and if i recall correctly it was supposed to be mine's vs. s2k, the mine's ended up getting owned by both. rematch?

 

[BALDY500]

The trouble is there are so many threads talking about racing online you would probably get criticized for starting yet another thread about it, i one for would love to talk about online racing but im fed up with people moaning all the time instead of just enjoying the talking of it all

 

[SteveO1965]

The trouble is there are so many threads talking about racing online you would probably get criticized for starting yet another thread about it, i one for would love to talk about online racing but im fed up with people moaning all the time instead of just enjoying the talking of it all

Stop moaning all the time

 

[BALDY500]

Who me wot am i like its ok normal service will be resumed later when iv had a few