I found quite a few more pics of toca, and DAMN it looks sweet. And Ico...well, in hindsight, the game itself is not long. But it all depends on you, at how quickly you solve the puzzles, and if you always RUSH everywhere you go, then it CAN be a short game. But me, i took my time. i liked to walk more then i did run. As for the puzzles, some of them were a pain in the ass! and some of them were easy as pie. Also, how well you control your character plays a big role on how long it'll take as well. if you die alot, then you'll take longer 8) and i loved fighting off those creepy shadow beasts, so i would sometimes linger about just for a good fight..hehehe But, if you read a walkthrough (as so MANY people do) then the game will be no fun, and yes it will be short. My advice, just take your time. play as much as you like, just dont feel like you have to rush! stop and look at the detail, and gaze at the beutifull world they made. thats the only true way to really appreciate Ico.