In many corners two line racing through the corner is possible without contact.
Whether it works out or not is a question of skill and/or respecton the part of both drivers, it's not a question of whether it's possible. Even a chicane that is literally physically only two lanes wide can be negotiated safely side by side as long as both drivers respect each other and keep to their lane. It doesn't work on DT or any other example you can come up, due to the lack of skill and/or mutual respect on the part of the drivers. One or both is deciding that their momentum is more important than the other's. If both slowed to a safe enough speed to negotiate the corner there wouldn't be a problem. I've never had issues with passing on any part of the track in a League race for example, this problem only occurs in races where you are racing with random competitors in my experience.
Depends where the gap is. Or, if you're in front, what the fastest way round is.
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Doing some offline testing though I think it should be possible using the Audi TT Gr.4 at BoP spec with a reduction in speed of about 15-20mph (around 125mph down to to 110mph) and losing about 1-1.5 seconds. At 110mph you're still just about in 5th gear.
Race pace is determined by how you can get through a corner safely. Reduce your speed if two wide, maybe a little further if three wide to get through safely. Simple. The reason incidents occur in these corners is as I said, one or the other driver puts their own momentum or race pace as you call it, ahead of their respect for the safety and enjoyment of other players. Slow down, pretty easy.
Nope, just a statement of facts. Feel free to disagree but leave the ad hominem attacks to reddit please.
See above. Slow down, It's easily possible.
Slow down.
It's a race not a TT. Slow down to the pace you can safely negotiate the corner knowing you must keep to your side of the track.
No such thing. See above.
Thank you for validating my point. It can be done with people who respect each others space (dance partner) but has a much lower chance of success with those who may be less likely to respect your track position (C or D ranked drivers).I guess that would be doing it with a choreographed dance partner?
Or would that be doing it during a race without first setting up the willing partner? The latter is the one I want to see. Even a top ranked driver as yourself would find it interesting, how about a couple of DR C or D ranked drivers?
I want to see the non choreographed version!
I guess that would be doing it with a choreographed dance partner?
Or would that be doing it during a race without first setting up the willing partner? The latter is the one I want to see. Even a top ranked driver as yourself would find it interesting, how about a couple of DR C or D ranked drivers?
I want to see the non choreographed version!
Yes it would be choreographed just to see at what speed it would be possible at or if in fact constant overlap is even possible with the speed adjustments you would have to make, proving that is what I thought the whole debate was about, whether it is possible at race pace to go side by side at every corner that is 2 cars wide. If we can do it even choreographed at DT chicane then should be possible pretty much anywhere.
It's safe to say that you would never see it done in an actual race as pretty much everyone who has the skill to do it would realise it's not exactly the best move in any situation. All it would do is risk a massive crash, lose both drivers time and not settle the position just delaying the fight to the next corner which would happen anyway if one driver backed off. But I can always show you the choreographed move anyway (assuming it's possible actually being side by side without someone pulling ahead) as I'm sure it would be fun to watch.
The OP only asked if passing on the outside was a good idea. The concept of there being many corners that it was impossible to race through without contact was added later but not by the OP. There's no such thing as a corner it's impossible to race through so long as the track is wide enough to permit it, but it's not always wise in some situations. Lap 1/10 probably not. Lap 10/10 and approaching a tight final chicane after following someone who has been flawless until that point and you finally get alongside? Of course you will. Tell me you wouldn't go two wide on the last corner at Suzuka or Catalyuna if dinner at the FIA Banquet was on the line and you thought it would gain you the preferred exit speed and line from the corner. Or would you just lean back in your seat and mutter, "Nah, you can't go two wide through there because we might risk a crash and not settle the position"Yes it would be choreographed just to see at what speed it would be possible at or if in fact constant overlap is even possible with the speed adjustments you would have to make, proving that is what I thought the whole debate was about, whether it is possible at race pace to go side by side at every corner that is 2 cars wide. If we can do it even choreographed at DT chicane then should be possible pretty much anywhere.
It's safe to say that you would never see it done in an actual race as pretty much everyone who has the skill to do it would realise it's not exactly the best move in any situation. All it would do is risk a massive crash, lose both drivers time and not settle the position just delaying the fight to the next corner which would happen anyway if one driver backed off. But I can always show you the choreographed move anyway (assuming it's possible actually being side by side without someone pulling ahead) as I'm sure it would be fun to watch.
Tell me you wouldn't go two wide on the last corner at Suzuka or Catalyuna if dinner at the FIA Banquet was on the line and you thought it would gain you the preferred exit speed and line from the corner. Or would you just lean back in your seat and mutter, "Nah, you can't go two wide through there because we might risk a crash and not settle the position"
