Patch 1.02 killed FF xbox.

[Spagetti69]

What happened eh.
The FF used to be great pre patch on Xbox.
I was wondering what was patch 1.02 going to fix. All it has done is ruin the FF.

Bring back our old FF please SMS. There was nothing wrong.

Really disappointed.

Anyway to delete the patch guys.

 

[tribolik]

I guess youll just have to wait for the next patch... Im still waiting for this one...

But cheer up and read this, youll feel a lot better...

I know you like Shift 2 (like I do) and that the various issues (which every game has) make you mad. I am just saying that you should focus on the good things of a game and have fun. You may think that this is wrong but I believe it's healthier. Games are for having fun! If you have fun overlook the unavoidable omissions or else the omissions will take over the game and you will only see them, therefore ruining the game for you. If the omission, glitches, bugs are so many that you are not having fun, stop playing, bothering and buying future versions. Video games is a chance to take your mind of life's real problems, not fill your mind with more worries and your time with tedious tasks (like grinding...)

 

[Spagetti69]

I guess youll just have to wait for the next patch... Im still waiting for this one...

Nah, two patches is about all we'll get I'd wager.

 

[tribolik]

Nah, two patches is about all we'll get I'd wager.

I dont think so... I think they will patch it until its fixed or until the next NFS game, I beleave they also have more DLCs to sell with this game... but maybe Im wrong.

The freezing has got to go, thats for sure... and if Xbox users start complaining about the FFB... but thats really strange everybody was saying that the Xbox game was far superior to the PS3 game, why would they F/&%/ it up? dont they have guys testing this stuff...

Well they also ruined the FFB in F1 2010 after the patch IMO but thats another story...

EDIT: this 2 patches were the equivalent to the first PC patch and they are already working on another for the PC so there will probably be one more patch for consoles too.

 

[FuriousDemon]

Yeah, I figure there is at least 1 more patch. Probably ETA is end of May/early June. Probably same time as the second DLC. After that I'm guessing no more patches, unless some uber-critical/console killing bugs are found.

 

[Spagetti69]

@Trib.

You're right about F1 2010 mate.

 

[Raudi]

+1

Patch 1.02 killed my FFB and my enjoyment of this game on XBOX

Prior to patch 1.02 I would rarely lose FFB effects on my Fanatec Wheel once I had it working by pausing / unpausing when I first started the game and ran a quick race to make sure FFB is active.

Now I lose Center Spring effect after every race online or if I have any collisions which makes the car practically undriveable. This is a deal breaker for me for online!

In contrast - FFB works great on PC with my Fanatec wheel after patch 1.02, my only complaint is that it doesn't communicate loss of grip.

 

[tlm]

+1 with the FFB problem... Now I have no real feeling to the car, there is no weight to the steering and it is almost uncontrollable with most cars! This game could have been so good but with this constant physics issue it is the most frustration I have had from a game.
I am using Fanatec GT2 with CSP...

 

[paulpg87]

like patch 1 killed FFB on ps3. They keep don't testing patches..

 

[tribolik]

IMO patch 1 improved FFB a lot at least on the first race.

 

[HKS racer]

Serious lol to SMS/EA "Quality Control", Unbelievable 👎

 

[strtgng]

On the PS3 users said after the patch they had to reset their controller settings to default before changes took effect. Are people on the Xbox seeing the FFB loss with the Fanatec wheels trying the same thing: reset to default?

 

[Spagetti69]

Yes, I've tried resetting to default.
A poster offered some settings involving the use of negative damper on the fanatec settings.
This proved to be quite good and restored a lot of the problems.

I seem to have to pause the game at the start of the race to restore lost FF now.

Also I seem to lose 900degrees.

 

[Tony01313]

FFB is really really messed up now!, just got the game last wedesday and loved it the first 2 days I had it now I can't play it anymore. It sucks having to keep pressing pause for the wheel to return to center position and work every race. This is really a downer:tdown:

 

[strtgng]

Yes, I've tried resetting to default.
A poster offered some settings involving the use of negative damper on the fanatec settings.
This proved to be quite good and restored a lot of the problems.

I seem to have to pause the game at the start of the race to restore lost FF now.

Also I seem to lose 900degrees.

Frustrating...funny that I bought this on the Xbox after the PS3 version was so broke, and now it sounds like the PS3 version is fixed and they broke the xbox version!

 

[TheTechnobear]

Argg, just back from hold to find shift 2 has been broken

Playing with it , I agree seems they have introduce some drag on the wheel, I guess its suppose to be 'weight' , but horrible, dpr -3 or -2 removes it.

They also don't seem to have fixed the requirement to pause/restart to get proper ffb.

However this was still giving me inconsistent feedback.

I've found the best way to reset the wheel is not turning it off, but to force a controller reset. Very simple to do, but a bit odd...
Have you noticed that if you switch the fanatec between <=270 deg and > 270 deg it forces a disconnect with the xbox?
Ive never been sure why if does this, but it seems to be something to do with ms wheel compatiblity ie. <= 270 then it's a ms wheel.

Anyway, I've found this is the best way to reset the wheel in shift 2, as powering down the wheel has some weird side effects.

It's easy to do in practice, say you have S5 with your s2u settings (eg I use 540 deg),then just put S4 with 270 deg, and at start of race switch S5, S4, S5 , you will see it disconnect and reconnect and also pause game

I'm not sure how often required, but didn't seem to be each race.

Have a try, it's the only way I got good centre spring.


Have you guys got it working 100% yet?

 

[Raudi]

Argg, just back from hold to find shift 2 has been broken

Playing with it , I agree seems they have introduce some drag on the wheel, I guess its suppose to be 'weight' , but horrible, dpr -3 or -2 removes it.

They also don't seem to have fixed the requirement to pause/restart to get proper ffb.

However this was still giving me inconsistent feedback.

I've found the best way to reset the wheel is not turning it off, but to force a controller reset. Very simple to do, but a bit odd...
Have you noticed that if you switch the fanatec between <=270 deg and > 270 deg it forces a disconnect with the xbox?
Ive never been sure why if does this, but it seems to be something to do with ms wheel compatiblity ie. <= 270 then it's a ms wheel.

Anyway, I've found this is the best way to reset the wheel in shift 2, as powering down the wheel has some weird side effects.

It's easy to do in practice, say you have S5 with your s2u settings (eg I use 540 deg),then just put S4 with 270 deg, and at start of race switch S5, S4, S5 , you will see it disconnect and reconnect and also pause game

I'm not sure how often required, but didn't seem to be each race.

Have a try, it's the only way I got good centre spring.


Have you guys got it working 100% yet?

I stumbled onto this solution also (switching to 270 Degree mode) to force a controller reset when pause / unpause doesn't work to restore center spring.

Problem is that you can't really do a reset when racing online in the middle of a race after you lose FFB from a collision / car reset!

I really hope SMS will address this with a patch or title update ASAP as this Loss of FFB / Center Spring issue introduced with the 1.02 patch has ruined online multiplayer for me which is how I spend most of my time!

 

[TheTechnobear]

@raudi, indeed, though I haven't had loss of ffb during a race yet or if I do a car reset, Is this only online?
Apart from these issues , is this ffb still worst than 1.01?

We definitely need a patch, I'm also intrigued to see if ps3 version has the same... when eu get 1.02

I also found a few things weird
- that turning the wheel off/on doesn't seem to reset cleanly either... you get a a stiff wheel.
- dpr setting, what is this doing?
( I'm intrigued if by setting to -3 we are missing some ffb effects, perhaps -1 with lower ffb strength is better... need to try a few ideas out )

 

[PSIONUK]

I am also very hacked off with the XBOX version I have the FANATEC PTS wheel.

I think we have a number of issues. Before the recent patch it was always possible to get the FFB back by pausing the game (although this was silly in itself). Now the FFB is just random.... at the start of each race it does some sort of reset/load profile and you either get resistance/centre spring or you don't; If you don't the wheel still has effects FFB (kerbs/gear changes) but no weight or centering.

Through a number of hours of playing I have also noticed the game stores advanced wheel settings for a number of different controllers. At first I assumed this was one for the standard controller and one for a wheel, but clearly I have seen 3 or 4 apparently memorised settings. The problem here is it seems to select them at random... so if you get hacked off and try switching your wheel off/on you may not get the settings you expect or think it has reset your settings.

ON A POSITIVE NOTE.... when its working (I use DRIFT on 3 and DPR on -3) its one of the best FFB experiences I have had; which is the whole problem with this game... ITS ON THE EDGE OF GREATNESS... so near...

 

[badeddy]

I set damper to -3 and spring to +3 and it feels better when you can get the ffb to work.

 

[RKip]

What happened eh.
The FF used to be great pre patch on Xbox.
I was wondering what was patch 1.02 going to fix. All it has done is ruin the FF.

Bring back our old FF please SMS. There was nothing wrong.

Really disappointed.

Anyway to delete the patch guys.

Same Here... I will try -3 dpr...!

Why the F$#K they have to screw up settings for some folks to correct others!!!

 

[PSIONUK]

I disconnected the FANATEC and connected up my Microsoft Wireless Wheel and it works fine all the time!.... and its good FFB (for the money)

So its just the FANATEC FFB not all FFB. Fanatec need to implement a mode which emulates the Microsoft Wheel... so if publishers stuff clever drivers/options for the FANATEC specifically, then the wheel is still useable.

 

[TheTechnobear]

The pwts is fine, as long as you do the 270 trick before each race, and have dpr set to -3 ... If you do this, you get ffb every time fine.

It's a pain, but it works perfectly then.
I think the only issue , is resetting in an online env is not going to work.

I agree 100% it needs fixing, but it's playable until then

 

[PSIONUK]

Yeah its online I'm interested in... with the 270 trick it sometimes gets confused about the degrees of rotation and it becomes over sensitive (unplayable)

 

[TheTechnobear]

Odd, I don't play online, but offline I never have any problem with it getting over sensitive ... (and I play helmet cam, so I would notice if the rotation was out of step due to real and virtual wheel being out of step)

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

On the PS3 users said after the patch they had to reset their controller settings to default before changes took effect. Are people on the Xbox seeing the FFB loss with the Fanatec wheels trying the same thing: reset to default?

I got my G27 thursday and set it up then raced. I then went back (remembering about that post to reset it) and reset it then changed to what I wanted and the force feedback still is crap.

^for PS3

 

[TheTechnobear]

Can't speak for others, but I've reset my controls many times on the xbox + fanatec setup.

As I said, offline , it's very tedious , but at least the game is playable,
And the ffb once reset is very good.