Penalties

[CavUk1]

When doing a daily race I received a 5 second penalty for doing nothing, all I did was overtake someone when a yellow flag was waving because of the two car accident at the side of the road, is the game using these rules or is it just a fault with the game.

 

[NJ72]

Passing on yellow flag will result in a penalty unless you are passing the cars involved with the incident. If the person you passed was just a normal racer, then yes that's why you got the penalty. As well you should have.

 

[Famine]

I received a 5 second penalty for doing nothing, all I did was overtake someone when a yellow flag was waving

That's not nothing.

is the game using these rules

It tells you "Overtaking is Prohibited" at the top of the screen in a yellow flag zone...

 

[CavUk1]

Thanks for letting me know, I will be watching the flags more often now.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

It's buggy. Yesterday I got 10 sec penalty and SR Down when 2 crashed cars reset right in front of me (ghosted) under yellow flag. I wasn't overtaking any 'live' cars at the time, plenty of separation between us. It was at the start of the last lap so I finished with 9 sec penalty and a red SR rating. Sprint races :/

 

[NoFinClue]

Its a bit of a pain as some un-ghost as you gently dive past, accruing the penalty points, especially in the lower SR level, where the yellow flag is nearly always out somewhere on the flippin circuit and drivers are determined to make sure you are one of the off cars and nobody knows what the brake peddle is for and some see red when you have the audacity to overtake them sending them into kamikaze mode and.... I appear to be ranting.

I usually ease off the accelerator when passing yellow flag incidents, most of the time you can then carry on penalty free

 

[lopescj]

It's buggy. Yesterday I got 10 sec penalty and SR Down when 2 crashed cars reset right in front of me (ghosted) under yellow flag. I wasn't overtaking any 'live' cars at the time, plenty of separation between us. It was at the start of the last lap so I finished with 9 sec penalty and a red SR rating. Sprint races :/

Yep, its buggy!

 

[NommyNom]

Practice awareness/slowing down and avoiding accidents (even ghosted cars) because they might stop ghosting crashed cars in the future

 

[baldgye]

A 5 second penalty for overtaking under yellows seems comically unfair, given that if someone spins out in front of you, and there is nothing you can do to avoid collecting them, you get a 10 second penalty

 

[NJ72]

A 5 second penalty for overtaking under yellows seems comically unfair, given that if someone spins out in front of you, and there is nothing you can do to avoid collecting them, you get a 10 second penalty

But you have overtaken someone who may have slowed their pace to avoid the accident - and thus unfairly gained an advantage over them. That's the point.

 

[baldgye]

But you have overtaken someone who may have slowed their pace to avoid the accident - and thus unfairly gained an advantage over them. That's the point.

?? Eh?
Why did you cut my quote like that?
For some reason your decided to cut the last part of my post, that gave context meaning to the whole reply...

 

[NJ72]

Apologies, tried to cut the emoji and nerfed it up by accident - I have amended my quote, sorry about that.

The point as I read it is that you feel he shouldn't have gotten the 5 sec penalty? If that's the case then I disagree as he should have to discourage overtaking on yellow. If a penalty is not severe enough then what's the point in one at all?

 

[eDirtyTati]

It's actually buggy in two ways that you need to be careful of:

1) If the incident involves more than one car, you will often get the penalty for passing the other car(s) involved in the incident, as the system only seems to recognize one car as causing the yellow. This happens a lot.

2) Sometimes you get dinged for making the overtake just before the yellow flag warning appears. It has happened to me twice, both at Interlagos and Brands Hatch. This is where watching the actual flaggers may come in handy, but I recall one incident where I definitely got the penalty even before the yellows were waving. This is more rare, as it's just a really unlucky bit of timing (you happen to pass someone right before a yellow is called for someone else).

Point is, it isn't perfect, and just following the rule isn't enough. PD should at least fix the first bug, as it is quite unfair to expect you to wait for all cars to return to track when more than one have gone off.

 

[Outspacer]

The point as I read it is that you feel he shouldn't have gotten the 5 sec penalty? If that's the case then I disagree as he should have to discourage overtaking on yellow. If a penalty is not severe enough then what's the point in one at all?

Well it all depends how slow, doesn't it? It someone has just lifted a little then the penalty is right, no question. But if they've been considerably slowed by the incident, there should be some point where they are considered part of the incident (or their own incident) and there currently isn't - passing any car that isn't ghosted will cause a penalty, no matter what.

 

[baldgye]

Apologies, tried to cut the emoji and nerfed it up by accident - I have amended my quote, sorry about that.

The point as I read it is that you feel he shouldn't have gotten the 5 sec penalty? If that's the case then I disagree as he should have to discourage overtaking on yellow. If a penalty is not severe enough then what's the point in one at all?

The point was; how can a 5 second penalty be just, for intentionally breaking the rules and gaining an advantage, when you get a harsher penalty through the literal mistakes of others that you can’t gain from and can’t avoid?

 

[GTFraker]

Sometimes the game cannot differentiate between passing a ghosted car involved in an incident or a live racer. I think it's more likely when the ghosted car is still on the track, I was once penalised for passing a car who had ended up head first in the barrier right at the exit of Dragon Trail's final Ss.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

Personally I can see ghosting cars for many reasons in SR D, a little less in SR C.
Once SR B is achieved only ghosting for accidents involving at least two cars.
At SR A only ghosting for crashes involving 3 or more vehicles.
SR S no ghosting at all, at what is considered the top level you should be driving at a level that you have the ability to react and slow down and avoid the incident. If not real world innocent race drivers get caught up all the time and it is one of the hazards of racing.

Also the game SHOULD NOT reset your car on the track above level SR C. It is your responsibility to reenter the track when it is safe to do so and if you cause accidents and wrecks reentering you should be heavily penalized in the upper levels.

I know people will say that will cause problems, well the way it is now causes problems and advancing to higher ranks currently fails to eliminate many of them. The SR S ranking should be harder to obtain and require a certain level of skill to enter or maintain. Until you make the rules enforce penalties for risky choices and questionable overtakes then you will continue to see people blaming everyone else for their lack of good races.

Many times it is the same people over and over whining about getting rammed, bumped off and fail to see that many of the situations they are just as guilty if not more so for keeping getting into the same risky questionable positions but it is never their fault.

 

[Potato_Head]

It's buggy as hell and this particular feature needs to go. Often, there's no way to tell which driver you can or cannot over-take. If you're in a situation with a particularly aggressive driver behind you, you have no choice than to guess.