Penn State Scandal

[Beeblebrox237]

I didn't see a thread on this, so I started my own. This thread is dedicated to discussion of the scandal involving Jerry Sandusky molesting several young boys. Before you enter this discussion or vote, please make sure you understand what happened. So, what do you think?

 

[Jar31Lar]

I think that assistant (ginger) should've been fired... Sigh... ah well... I always thought Joe Paterno (like Favre) would retire when they died...

 

[Beeblebrox237]

I think that assistant (ginger) should've been fired... Sigh... ah well... I always thought Joe Paterno (like Favre) would retire when they died...

Mike McQueary? Yeah, probably. I'm surprised about how few posts there are. I thought people would be all fired up. They are where I live.

 

[Villain]

I think that assistant (ginger) should've been fired... Sigh... ah well... I always thought Joe Paterno (like Favre) would retire when they died...

Brett Favre retiring when he died? Dude what are you talking about?

 

[CAM]

He means that people thought Favre would play until he dropped dead on the field, as you probably already know. I'm too tired to read sarcasm. On topic, I think they only needed to fire the administrators that didn't submit the information Paterno gave to them to the authorities. Joe did what he supposed to do, just like he did the other 61 years in State College, and he gets the bad rap. That disgusts me. I understand the victims are hurt, but Paterno did nothing for his legacy and life's work to be put on the back burner.

In other news, apparently Syracuse assistant basketball coach Bernie Fine is accused of molesting a ball boy, but Syracuse seemed to have performed an internal investigation.

Now ESPN reports Fine is on administrative leave and Syracuse city police are investigating. It said he molested the ball boy for a period of 12 years, starting in 1983. This is Fine's 36th year at SU, I believe it said.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

But wait, there's more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15795618

 

[Guitar613]

I don't think Joe Pa should've been fired. I know that he was aware of the situation but him not reporting it directly was is a moral issue no a crime. at best he should of had the opportunity to finish off the season. this whole scandal and his firing basically ruined his career, hes now gonna be remembered as the coach who didn't report rape not the amazing coach he was for 46 years. Now McQueary I'm not sure about i never understood his story.

 

[land sea air]

It's been brought up again with Joe Paterno's death last Sunday and frankly I'm pretty disappointed by the response from students etc. (at least the response that's being reported everywhere). I feel that there is an "all is forgotten" atmosphere around the funeral and the university in general. I feel that he should not be remembered as a hero and that the things that he DID NOT do far outweigh the (very numerous and some admittedly very good) things that he did do throughout his long career. Perhaps I would feel differently if I were a student at Penn state which I am not, perhaps I would feel differently if I were a sports fan which I am not. I have a close friend who is a former student (and huge N. Lions fan) there and she was as disgusted and disturbed as I was when the allegations came to light so those things don't always matter. As far as I'm concerned Sandusky is done for, he's been caught and I hope that he will pay DEARLY for his crimes but I think there were other crimes (perhaps only from a moral standpoint) that have to be answered for. I guess I'm more focused on Paterno because of the outpouring of seeming support both after his firing and his death but he isn't the only one. Fulfilling ones "legal obligation" to tell someone else who tells someone else etc. is utter bull:censored:

Why didn't Mike McQueary intervene? Instead he told Paterno who instead of notifying any authorities passed the concern up the line, potentially allowing the abuse to continue for SIX YEARS before any formal investigation started...

Try to keep it civil I'm sure there are plenty of people who feel strongly on both sides of the issue.

 

[Dennisch]

Care to share some more info about the Penn state scandal, for us non US citizens?

 

[Liquid]

Care to share some more info about the Penn state scandal, for us non US citizens?

Something about a gridiron coach harbouring a paedophile.

That's about as much as I have gathered from posts in the sports section.

 

[land sea air]

My apologies, for full info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_State_sex_abuse_scandal
Basically Mike M. witnessed something happening in 2002 and reported it to Joe P. instead of stopping it right then and there, Paterno told his superior instead of notifying the authorities and if I'm reading it right that's pretty much how it continues until a parent complained in 2008.

Also it appears it glitched and created two threads because I decided not to create a poll after originally wanting to, can a Mod fix this?

EDIT: thanks!

 

[Keef]

Oh boy, Penn State really dropped the ball against Ohio State the other day.

OSU really molested them on the court.

Penn State looked like a bunch of young boys out there.

OSU really showed them how to dribble that ball up and down the court.

Penn State really got dominated that time.

 

[land sea air]

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude too soon


but still

 

[Nicksfix]

Almost one year later, Jerry Sandusky makes this statement just one day before his trial.

In my heart, I know I did not do these alleged disgusting acts."

Are you 🤬 kidding me ? I hope this man rots away in jail.

Throw the book at him.

full story

 

[niky]

Allegedly performed or allegedly disgusting? There's a big difference there.

 

[Nicksfix]

Only Jerry knows the answer to that question. Right now he's got 442 thoughts running through his mind.

Talk about a sleepless night ahead ...

 

[Dennisch]

Jerry Sandusky was sentenced Tuesday to at least 30 years in prison -- effectively a life sentence -- in the child sexual abuse scandal that brought shame to Penn State and led to coach Joe Paterno's downfall.

Judge John Cleland sentenced him to 30 year minimum to 60 years maximum in prison. Under Pennsylvania law, Sandusky cannot be released on parole before the minimum term is up.

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That is a proper punishment for him. In the Netherlands he would be a free man in less than 10 year.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I don't think Joe Pa should've been fired. I know that he was aware of the situation but him not reporting it directly was is a moral issue no a crime. at best he should of had the opportunity to finish off the season. this whole scandal and his firing basically ruined his career, hes now gonna be remembered as the coach who didn't report rape not the amazing coach he was for 46 years. Now McQueary I'm not sure about i never understood his story.

Penn State found a quick excuse to dismiss Paterno, even though the excuse is weak in this quagmire.

I personally feel someone at the board of directors or whatever Penn State does had something against Paterno and conveniently used this scandal as a means to get rid of the coach. University elite tend to get very political.

At most Paterno should have gotten a private reprimanding for not reporting it himself or maybe even fines given the gravity of this scandal, but be allowed to at least keep his job.

 

[Villain]

Now that it's official, I hope Penn State doesn't take too long to rebound. Good school, good community.

It still amazes me to see how bad Paterno became.

 

[Nicksfix]

So Jerry strikes back at his victims on a radio broadcast ...

A pre-taped audio statement from jail was conveniently playing on Penn State's ComRadio. It allowed him to condemn the system, label everything a conspiracy and beg those with "the courage to listen" to "evaluate the accusers and their families.

He then promptly did it for them, of course, labeling his victims as greedy, dishonest, disloyal, poor, trashy, troubled liars.

Really Jerry

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I don't think Joe Pa should've been fired. I know that he was aware of the situation but him not reporting it directly was is a moral issue no a crime. at best he should of had the opportunity to finish off the season. this whole scandal and his firing basically ruined his career, hes now gonna be remembered as the coach who didn't report rape not the amazing coach he was for 46 years. Now McQueary I'm not sure about i never understood his story.

As much as I admired Joe Pa's coaching, and respected it, he should have opened up to the authorities about this. This was no minor misdemeanor or slap of the hands correction thing going on. We are talking about ruining the lives of children. He deserved to lose his job, as well as all of the others who knew of the situation.

Hell, they fired Jim Tressell for a lot lesser offense than this.

Memorabilia scandal -vs- sexual molestation of children scandal ..... it's a no brainer. PSU officials acted accordingly.

 

[Villain]

I don't think Joe Pa should've been fired. I know that he was aware of the situation but him not reporting it directly was is a moral issue no a crime.

Don't fire an immoral person? It's a moot point now, but Joe Paterno was very guilty.

 

[BJBEOSmitty]

Indeed.

Just goes to show, an lifetime of reputation, created/supported/earned for decades, can be wiped out with one poor decision or choice if the situation is bad enough.

The same goes for large companies that don't handle food safety properly, companies that do not handle employee safety properly, doctors making major errors, elected officials, CEO's, etc... As well as anyone involved with children in any way.

I have no problem with careers being destroyed, companies going under, or various leaders being riddled with shame when these types of barriers are crossed.