Peugeot joins Brazilian V8 Stock Cars in 2007

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It's been confirmed today that Peugeot will join the championship next year, with the 307 Sedan.

The prototype car can be seen at the Sao Paulo International Auto Show:

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The 307 Sedan will battle against the Chevrolet Astra (current champion), the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX and the Volkswagen Bora.

PS: There's also a rumour that Honda will also join with the New Civic.
 
All engines used on the championship are ZF Racing V8's (450HP).

Brazilian Stock Car V8's are similar to the old german V8 Star Championship.
Ah ok. I thought they just used their own engines tuned to the same HP.

Car looks pretty good though.
 
Pretty ugly, but the regular version is the same way.

Could those Brasilian V8's have any bigger numbers? Thats gotta be pretty bad on vision.

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I already told this to some of the organizers. The big numbers and the sponsors on the windows "kill" the look of the cars, but they think they aren't a problem.

:yuck:
 
Now we need to hold a comparo: DTMvsV8SCvsBSCCvsNNCvsBTCCvsWTCC

(German Touring Car Masters, V8 Supercars Australia, Brazillian Stock Car Championship, NASCAR Nextel Cup, British Touring Car Championship, and World Touring Car Cahmpoinship. Phew. I'm done.)
 
I joked with Johnny that I called Brazilian Stock Cars as "BTM." Granted I don't know the German word for "Brazilian" (and I don't), the cars and racing still look like the DTM series in Germany. Is that a bad thing? Not at all. I respect DTM.

Now as for the Peugeot 307, just too bad it didn't surpass the awesome 206 WRC in the rally ranks. This 307 Brazilian Stock Car looks pretty nice. I don't think the numbers on Brazilian Stock Cars don't have as big of numbers as most American stock cars. Shoot. In that series, the driver's number is perhaps more important than the specific car. How do you think people are able to know who the late Dale Earnhardt Sr. from some other car? Simply because he's the #3 Goodwrench Chevy. Not to mention that he established himself in the racing world. So you had to show some respect when you faced the black and silver #3 coming out of Turn 4. And I doubt that all the 307 Stock Car drivers will have that big "307" plastered across like on this specific machine. I hope the 307 can compete at tracks like Interlagos, Brasilia, and places like that. That's even if they want to compete at the Buenos Aires F1 course in Argentina.

This series is pretty hot from what I've seen. Johnny is our Brazilian Stock Car man. I got respect for him and the Brazilian Touring Cars. This series is only getting better with these extra entries. They seem to have better diversity in different automobiles than America's NASCAR series, which is mostly of American and American-made automobiles. You Brazilian Stock Car folk have stuff like the Lancer and this 307 racing in the series. It's more diverse. I have a small question, though. Most of us American racing fans with NASCAR don't really like seeing stuff like Toyota in the NASCAR scene simply because this is an American motorsport made for American fans and American cars. Does Brazil sort of have the same prejudice with all these different makes of cars, or are they more respectful of other brands?
 
@ John, I was talking about the numbers on the windscreen, they seem to be very intrusive to vision. Also, the BSCC cars use NASCAR Busch Series Engines in their cars, so it's kind of like a Touringcarified NASCAR.
 
I joked with Johnny that I called Brazilian Stock Cars as "BTM." Granted I don't know the German word for "Brazilian" (and I don't), the cars and racing still look like the DTM series in Germany. Is that a bad thing? Not at all. I respect DTM.

Now as for the Peugeot 307, just too bad it didn't surpass the awesome 206 WRC in the rally ranks. This 307 Brazilian Stock Car looks pretty nice. I don't think the numbers on Brazilian Stock Cars don't have as big of numbers as most American stock cars. Shoot. In that series, the driver's number is perhaps more important than the specific car. How do you think people are able to know who the late Dale Earnhardt Sr. from some other car? Simply because he's the #3 Goodwrench Chevy. Not to mention that he established himself in the racing world. So you had to show some respect when you faced the black and silver #3 coming out of Turn 4. And I doubt that all the 307 Stock Car drivers will have that big "307" plastered across like on this specific machine. I hope the 307 can compete at tracks like Interlagos, Brasilia, and places like that. That's even if they want to compete at the Buenos Aires F1 course in Argentina.

This series is pretty hot from what I've seen. Johnny is our Brazilian Stock Car man. I got respect for him and the Brazilian Touring Cars. This series is only getting better with these extra entries. They seem to have better diversity in different automobiles than America's NASCAR series, which is mostly of American and American-made automobiles. You Brazilian Stock Car folk have stuff like the Lancer and this 307 racing in the series. It's more diverse. I have a small question, though. Most of us American racing fans with NASCAR don't really like seeing stuff like Toyota in the NASCAR scene simply because this is an American motorsport made for American fans and American cars. Does Brazil sort of have the same prejudice with all these different makes of cars, or are they more respectful of other brands?

Next race of the 2006 Season will be in Buenos Aires, Argentina. :) Don't know which course they'll use tough. Sometimes this site puts some videos with highlights of the races:

http://paginas.terra.com.br/esporte/thiagoene/

The one it's avaiable for download is from the last race at Tarumã.

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Enjoy.

Oh, and here it's exactly the same as in Nascar. Even if sponsors change people know that #3 Car is Chico Serra, #9 is Giuliano Losacco, #0 is Cacá Bueno,...

Chevrolet, Ford and Volkswagen are the ones that made motorsport in Brazil a reality.

Chevrolet with the Opala, Omega, Vectra and lately the Astra Sedan and S-10 pickup.
Ford with the Maverick, Escort, Verona, Fiesta. These days they only support F-Truck, although some use people the Ford Ranger on the pickup championship.
Volkswagen with the Voyage, Gol, Apollo, and recently the Bora.

Companies like Renault, Peugeot, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Porsche, Maserati started supporting motorsport only recently, like 5 years ago.

Renault has Clio Cup, Super Clio Cup, and F-Renault
Peugeot has it's own rally championship with the 206 and next year the 307 Stock Car
Mitsubishi always supported the rallies and joined the Stock Car with the Evo VII "body".
Subaru also always supported rallies.
Porsche and Maserati have their own championships, the GT3 Cup Challenge and the Maserati Trofeo.
Volvo, Mercedes-Benz, Scania, Volkswagen and Iveco also support F-Truck Championship.
We think here that more brands is better.
 
Wait, did I read this right? BSCC use Busch series V8's? Non-production based 358ci, carbourated dinosaurs?! That doesn't sound right. Busch series motors are like 700bhp where as these cars are 450bhp... I guess they use restrictor plates....

Brazillian stock cars look great, and appear to attract some big names. Keep the news coming Johnny! Now I really must be going, later boys.

m.piedgros
 
Wait, did I read this right? BSCC use Busch series V8's? Non-production based 358ci, carbourated dinosaurs?! That doesn't sound right. Busch series motors are like 700bhp where as these cars are 450bhp... I guess they use restrictor plates....

Brazillian stock cars look great, and appear to attract some big names. Keep the news coming Johnny! Now I really must be going, later boys.

m.piedgros
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-2QcbA4g6e0&mode=related&search=
Just listen to that wonderful sound.
 
I like the sound of NASCAR's. Never really heard of the Brazillian V8's but I agree with m.piedgros it doesn't even sound like NASCAR V8's. By-the-by I also enjoy the sound of these V8's. To conclude, I don't think that these cars are NASCAR V8's, let alone carbourated 358's.
 

Here's another small video with the sound, but this shows all 40 cars passing by. :drool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phjXVsDvf1c

The engine is a 5.7 V8 with 450 HP (originally it has 700 HP, but it's lowered to be more reliable). Also it uses a quadruple carburator (quadrijet).

It's not a NASCAR "branded" engine, but the design was bought from an american company (so i can't say it was never used on a Nascar)

Here's a pic of it (low quality though)
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And here's yet another pic of the 307:
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I'm a little :dunce: so, what would 5.7L be in cubic inches? I don't think that measures out to 358ci, as 5.7L is a fairly common truck engine in America and as I understand it, absolutely no main-stream "big three" or European manufacturers use 358ci motors. It's interesting to see that these cars do have carbs. I guess that just allows the officials some ease when they are trying to control performance (same reason NASCAR won't go over to FI.) Once electronics get involved some advantages can be brought upon certain cars... though I've not seen a lot of problems with that in pro motorsport.
 
I'm a little :dunce: so, what would 5.7L be in cubic inches? I don't think that measures out to 358ci, as 5.7L is a fairly common truck engine in America and as I understand it, absolutely no main-stream "big three" or European manufacturers use 358ci motors. It's interesting to see that these cars do have carbs. I guess that just allows the officials some ease when they are trying to control performance (same reason NASCAR won't go over to FI.) Once electronics get involved some advantages can be brought upon certain cars... though I've not seen a lot of problems with that in pro motorsport.

Yes, about 358 ci...but many call 350s 5.7L, since that's the nearest metric displacement.
 
here in europe there is no such as a 307 sedan
so what is the support from peugot sincse its not a peugot V8?
i dont get it
astra V8? not here in europe
just the vectra V8 gts
but it looks okay
strange sight to see a trunk at a 307
 
here in europe there is no such as a 307 sedan
so what is the support from peugot sincse its not a peugot V8?
i dont get it
astra V8? not here in europe
just the vectra V8 gts
but it looks okay
strange sight to see a trunk at a 307
s said earlier, all the cars use the same V8 engine.
All engines used on the championship are ZF Racing V8's (450HP).

Brazilian Stock Car V8's are similar to the old german V8 Star Championship.
 
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