[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[mustafur]

So not only are you not addressing the point your bring up another one(which isn't even clear what your trying to say as you post a link to a massive page) which has nothing to do with what you have been quoted as saying.

 

[squadops]

How can I make it clearer to you, the GOP could tank their own candidate in order to have house control over the pick. It really is not that hard, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, I gave you two ways it could happen, and it just might.

There is a third bet on the table as well, one I discussed with @Dennisch I believe it was, go back and read that. I am not blowing smoke up your ass, there are ways to get Johnson in, and the GOP might very well be taking a hard look at it.(because they hate Trump, and because they might not think they can beat the Hillary any other way)

Try to understand or at least be civil, I'm trying to after all.

Oh you went back to a tradition way of running, that is not how our system works, I'm talking about gaining office. In that case anything does and will go.

 

[TenEightyOne]

1. They can't choose him

They can do what they like, convention rules aren't law, they exist at the behest of the delegates. It isn't normally conceivable that there would be a reason for them to introduce a 3rd-party candidate but then this isn't a normal scenario.

At this point im guessing you didn't learn to read.

You said there is a possibility of him running as the republican nominee, im telling you this is impossible.

How so?

 

[DK]

Frankie Boyle takes a look at the US presidential election, in one of the few non-sweary things he writes.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I loved this line;

With almost infinite resources, the closest they’ve got to producing a popular candidate is Ted Cruz: a cross between a permanently disappointed sitcom vampire and the high school yearbook photo of every serial killer of the modern era.

EDIT: Or maybe;

Donald Trump is why. He is the living embodiment of America’s unresolved issues. “How on earth can America consider expelling people of a different faith?!” an appalled England asks of a country created by the people they expelled for having a different faith.

 

[Pupik]

I think Trump could sew up the GOP nomination simply by calling Ted Cruz a "permanently disappointed sitcom vampire", but think that would require too much cogitation by 90% of his constituents. Sanders thinking he's Beyoncé and Clinton the emotional android.

What a great time it is to be an American.

 

[GTPorsche]

I think Ted Cruz has actually been compared to a serial killer's high school yearbook picture.

 

[CodeRedR51]

It would hilarious just for comedy if he showed up in those Panama papers

Not a chance.

 

[The87Dodge]

What about Donald Trump, why is he not getting much votes? Never would've guessed GTP's US members are almost entirely liberal (I am liberal too, though).

 

[mustafur]

What about Donald Trump, why is he not getting much votes? Never would've guessed GTP's US members are almost entirely liberal (I am liberal too, though).

Younger people are more likely to be liberal, and younger people are more likely to use the internet.

 

[The87Dodge]

Younger people are more likely to be liberal, and younger people are more likely to use the internet.

Younger people aren't always more likely to be liberal. Most young people who are liberal are more likely to live in large, gentrifying cities, while young people in rural or suburban areas can be conservative.

 

[mustafur]

Younger people aren't always more likely to be liberal. Most young people who are liberal are more likely to live in large, gentrifying cities, while young people in rural or suburban areas can be conservative.

As a number it's overwhelmingly Liberal.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I'd like to think that most of GTP is smart enough to not vote for him, and the results show that.

 

[squadops]

What about Donald Trump, why is he not getting much votes? Never would've guessed GTP's US members are almost entirely liberal (I am liberal too, though).

Trump isn't a conservative, that's the problem with the GOP for a long while now, us conservatives can't find any sort of representation there.

As for GTP members, I see more liberals and libertarians both than I see conservatives but they do exist.

 

[A2K78]

As for GTP members, I see more liberals and libertarians both than I see conservatives but they do exist.

Be careful about throwing around the term "libertarian". Why? You have many people who call themselves libertarian yet don't know exactly what it means to be one. For the record, anyone who calls themselves socially liberal and fiscally conservative are so not libertarian.

 

[mustafur]

Be careful about throwing around the term "libertarian". Why? You have many people who call themselves libertarian yet don't know exactly what it means to be one. For the record, anyone who calls themselves socially liberal and fiscally conservative are so not libertarian.

?

 

[Famine]

Be careful about throwing around the term "libertarian". Why? You have many people who call themselves libertarian yet don't know exactly what it means to be one. For the record, anyone who calls themselves socially liberal and fiscally conservative are so not libertarian.

Uh-huh. People who support small government aren't libertarian now.

This should be good unutterably terrible.

 

[squadops]

Uh-huh. People who support small government aren't libertarian now.

This should be good unutterably terrible.

Should we go back to the other thread then? I think @A2K78 was hinting at a type of government you would find in Finland for instance, I could be wrong though. Too much social welfare to be considered libertarian.(socially liberal is often thought of that way)

Maybe this will help some...

 

[Sanji Himura]

Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders win Wisconsin

 

[mustafur]

Should we go back to the other thread then? I think @A2K78 was hinting at a type of government you would find in Finland for instance, I could be wrong though. Too much social welfare to be considered libertarian.(socially liberal is often thought of that way)

Maybe this will help some...

What Illogical crap is that?

 

[Biggles]

Be careful about throwing around the term "libertarian". Why? You have many people who call themselves libertarian yet don't know exactly what it means to be one. For the record, anyone who calls themselves socially liberal and fiscally conservative are so not libertarian.

??

 

[The87Dodge]

Trump isn't a conservative, that's the problem with the GOP for a long while now, us conservatives can't find any sort of representation there.

As for GTP members, I see more liberals and libertarians both than I see conservatives but they do exist.

Trump isn't a Democrat either.

 

[squadops]

What Illogical crap is that?

The graph, or my words? I know what a libertarian is, I was guessing at what his post meant. I do agree with him that there are people who claim to be libertarian without knowing what it means, people who want their cake and eat it too as if there is some sort of utopian dream.

That's what kind of crap that is 👍

 

[CSLACR]

Should we go back to the other thread then? I think @A2K78 was hinting at a type of government you would find in Finland for instance, I could be wrong though. Too much social welfare to be considered libertarian.(socially liberal is often thought of that way)

Maybe this will help some...

So personal and economical freedom are found far far away from libertarians?

 

[squadops]

So personal and economical freedom are found far far away from libertarians?

I don't think you guys are reading the graph correctly, using it and finding the point of most libertarian you will see the most freedom on both axis. Say it goes to a scale of 0 to 10 on x and y, then plot the point (10,10).

 

[CSLACR]

I don't think you guys are reading the graph correctly, using it and finding the point of most libertarian you will see the most freedom on both axis. Say it goes to a scale of 0 to 10 on x and y, then plot the point (10,10).

Ahh, gotcha. A numeric scale would have done it.

 

[squadops]

Ahh, gotcha. A numeric scale would have done it.

It's a simplistic looking Cartesian coordinate graph with some silly diagonal line on it lol(which would roughly plot your thought process if you guessed your stance on each axis.)

 

[mustafur]

The graph, or my words? I know what a libertarian is, I was guessing at what his post meant. I do agree with him that there are people who claim to be libertarian without knowing what it means, people who want their cake and eat it too as if there is some sort of utopian dream.

They can do what they like, convention rules aren't law, they exist at the behest of the delegates. It isn't normally conceivable that there would be a reason for them to introduce a 3rd-party candidate but then this isn't a normal scenario.



How so?

Considering the top two candidates want rule 40.B in place and they have the vast majority of delegates it's fairly inconceivable.

The graph, or my words? I know what a libertarian is, I was guessing at what his post meant. I do agree with him that there are people who claim to be libertarian without knowing what it means, people who want their cake and eat it too as if there is some sort of utopian dream.

That's what kind of crap that is 👍

Don't worry i get it now, it's basically the same as the chart used in the questionnaire just it's diagonal for some reason.

 

[squadops]

The diagonal is going the wrong way

And yes it is not conceivable but they sure can choose who they wish in the primary.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...nt_affect_the_gop_primary_outcome_129012.html

 

[mustafur]

Yes it is, that article is before any Primary happened. Both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz support rule 40.B and considering the only person who can oppose is Kaisich the chances of him removing it is basically zero given how low his delegate count is.