Praiano's Tunes: Waiting for GT6 & FERRARI ENZO FXX.

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Hi; I cannot get these tranny values. Are these the old ones? Just curious.



praiano63
Lamborghini Nomad Diablo GT-1 '2000 // ONLINE APPROVED// 1'53"100 suzuka

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My first published race car, it just take more time, this one have monthes.

Transmition: Adapt to track with "final speed"

max speed= 218 mph
final speed=2800 (lower value to increase speed)

1st=4042
2= 2895
3= 2175
4= 1700
5= 1370
6= 1147

TRACK: All around
power: 744 ch
weight: 1200 kg
perf. points: 654 pp

Downforce 35/60

LSD Rear 15/42/15

Torque distrib. none
Ride Height -15/-05
Spring Rate 15.0/15.0
Extension 3/3
Compression 3/2
Anti-roll bars 3/4

Camber 2.5/2.4
Toe +0.20/-0.08

Brake Balance 9/6
tires R3/R3

Enjoy
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dajesso
Hi; I cannot get these tranny values. Are these the old ones? Just curious.
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Patch 1.10..... correct now on thread too.

Transmission how to process:
1- Select default
2- Select final gear at 3830 (stock)
3- Select top speed at 370 km/h = 229,9 mph
4- Set each gear at this ratio:
1: 2928
2: 2107
3: 1588
4: 1243
5: 1007
6: 0843

It 'll give a top speed (above on the right) of 349 km/h = 216,9 mph

Tracks: All around / adapt with final gear to each track
 
Thx

u r da best

praiano63
Patch 1.10..... correct now on thread too.

Transmission how to process:
1- Select default
2- Select final gear at 3830 (stock)
3- Select top speed at 370 km/h = 229,9 mph
4- Set each gear at this ratio:
1: 2928
2: 2107
3: 1588
4: 1243
5: 1007
6: 0843

It 'll give a top speed (above on the right) of 349 km/h = 216,9 mph

Tracks: All around / adapt with final gear to each track
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dajesso
Thx

u r da best
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Look this is an old tune. I'm driving it now, it was updated 2 month ago but i think i'll do another right now. I'm not satisfied for online .
Let me see. 1 hour we will have a newlambodiablo, just some littles adjust.
 
praiano63
Look this is an old tune. I'm driving it now, it was updated 2 month ago but i think i'll do another right now. I'm not satisfied for online .
Let me see. 1 hour we will have a newlambodiablo, just some littles adjust.
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I noticed u don;t have the High RPM on, cause it can go over 800 horses.
 
AssassinTuner
I'm asking if it's the same as the one in the NCD.
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The 370 GT from NCD is the same lenght,but 500 kg more is '07 not '08, and look very diferent.
It's not the same like GTR '09 and GTR GT ACADEMY. This one have FR and rear downforce.
It's very good to drive. If you send me your Assassin PSN ,you can borrow it online .
Better way for you to know.
 
hi Praiano!
No way for Camaro on my championship hehehehe...
Mustang Mach just owns it!
I've finished +5s after 35 laps, but the Mustang driver made some mistakes...
But it is one of the cars I like more to drive!
 
Priano, I think we all want it. Will you make a drag setup for the Nissan GT-R SpecV '09? Possibly PM it cuz theres not many out there :) Wanna get a edge :)
 
LexSombra
hi Praiano!
No way for Camaro on my championship hehehehe...
Mustang Mach just owns it!
I've finished +5s after 35 laps, but the Mustang driver made some mistakes...
But it is one of the cars I like more to drive!
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Yes ,a very good car, those championships seems goods and fun, i'm going to check if there is one for me.

bmoe24x
Priano, I think we all want it. Will you make a drag setup for the Nissan GT-R SpecV '09? Possibly PM it cuz theres not many out there :) Wanna get a edge :)
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I've tune Enzo, GT no stripe... butno miracles,GTR is slower, a good gearbox help a little. That's all. I can see one for you but like i say, no miracle.


andy54321
Can i make a request ?
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Tell me my friend,if you just make the request without saying what car, i can say yes and after you'll tell me that you need a tune for Kubel wagen.....:).
so tell me what car and let's see.
 
Ok its not a super car or owt but i own this car, well this model of car. Its the citroen c4 coupe. I could not see it on the thread or maybe i missed it.

Thanks.
 
I have a question for you people that are good in Math ,it's not complicate at all but i just want someone to confirm.
I try now when i tune to respect the weight repartition that appear at the weight adjustment setting and work around the all tune sticking always to this repartition, transfering this proportion on the front and rear spring stiffness.
If i do for example:

A car have his weight like FR 45% and REAR 55%

If i do for a medium stiffness of 10 (can be any value)
-front = 10 - 5% = 9.5
-Rear = 10 + 5% = 10.5
Will i respect like this the weight repartition on the springs ??

Tell me please if i'm right . Thanks.
 
I had a couple beers tonight so I cannot say for sure. Let me check in the morning. The final answer might be correct but I'm not sure about your means for getting it. You may have just been lucky starting with 10 as a base. :)
 
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madmyk
I had a couple beers tonight so I cannot say for sure. Let me check in the morning. The final answer is correct but I'm not sure about your means for getting it. You may have just been lucky starting with 10 as a base. :)
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Ok my friend. 👍👍
 
Hi

i think you have a little mistake in the formula

let me try to explain

when a car has for example 1000 kg (doe not matter - just to follow my thinking with "values")
and like in your example the weight balance is:
front 45% / rear 55%
so you have a weight of:
front 450kg / rear 550kg

this is a difference of 10% to the balanced car (50%/50% = 500kg/500kg)
and therefore you need a springrate "correction" of 10%

in our example: springrate 10/10 (50%/50% = 500kg/500kg)
will change to: springrate 9/11 (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg)
edited: will change to: springrate 9/11 (45%/55% = 450kg/550kg)
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finaly the check with the "compression travel"
500kg per axis = 250kg per wheel

compression travel [mm] = weight [kg] / springrate [kg/mm] = 250/10 = 25mm
in a well balanced car

springrate 9/11 (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg)
edited:springrate 9/11 (45%/55% = 450kg/550kg)
front: 450kg per axis ... 225kg per wheel / 9 = 25mm compression travel
rear: 550kg per axis ... 275kg per wheel / 11 = 25mm compression travel

if we use the "old" values for testing:
springrate 9,5/10,5 for our car (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg)
front: 450kg per axis ... 225kg per wheel / 9,5 = 23,7mm compression travel
rear: 550kg per axis ... 275kg per wheel / 10,5 = 26,2mm compression travel
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i know these are a lot of numbers and formulas
but i hope it helps more than confuses
 
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lamborghini1536
Hi

i think you have a little mistake in the formula

let me try to explain

when a car has for example 1000 kg (doe not matter - just to follow my thinking with "values")
and like in your example the weight balance is:
front 45% / rear 55%
so you have a weight of:
front 450kg / rear 550kg

this is a difference of 10% to the balanced car (50%/50% = 500kg/500kg)
and therefore you need a springrate "correction" of 10%

in our example: springrate 10/10 (50%/50% = 500kg/500kg)
will change to: springrate 9/11 (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg)

-------------------------------------------------------
finaly the check with the "compression travel"
500kg per axis = 250kg per wheel

compression travel [mm] = weight [kg] / springrate [kg/mm] = 250/10 = 25mm
in a well balanced car

springrate 9/11 (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg)
front: 450kg per axis ... 225kg per wheel / 9 = 25mm compression travel
rear: 550kg per axis ... 275kg per wheel / 11 = 25mm compression travel

if we use the "old" values for testing:
springrate 9,5/10,5 for our car (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg)
front: 450kg per axis ... 225kg per wheel / 9,5 = 23,7mm compression travel
rear: 550kg per axis ... 275kg per wheel / 10,5 = 26,2mm compression travel
--------------------------------------------------------

i know these are a lot of numbers and formulas
but i hope it helps more than confuses
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I don't understand your explanation
when you have
in our example: springrate 10/10 (50%/50% = 500kg/500kg)
will change to: springrate 9/11 (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg)
this 9/11 for me represents 5%front+5%rear = 10% so why (45%/50% = 450kg/550kg) ??
I did'nt know about the values and the compression travel. This is ok now ,i know how it work.
To make simple ,the way i like, what can i do to respect the weight repartition increasing or decreasing the stiffness of the springs ??? This is my question... Formula ? simple one exist?
 
For example , i have a car with springs FR 9.2 REAR 8.4.... I want a stiffer car , around 11.0 respecting this proportion. How do i proceed??
 
sorry little typo:
45%/55% = 450kg/550kg

so you have -10% load on the front ... and +10% load on the rear (against a well balanced 500kg/500kg car)


do you agree in this point? any question? ... this is the reason, why a shift from 50%/50% to 45%/55% weight cause a difference of 10% of the load on an axis (500kg/500kg to 450kg/550kg)
For example , i have a car with springs FR 9.2 REAR 8.4.... I want a stiffer car , around 11.0 respecting this proportion. How do i proceed??
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a 50%/50% car with springrates FR9,2 / Rear8,4 will decrease/increase per 10% so you have
in a 45%/55% car:
front 9,2 -10% = 9,2*0,9 = 8,28
rear 8,1 +10% = 8,4*1,1 = 9,24

on a "standing" car - no movement or weight-transfer in corners, acceleration or deceleration

a car 50%/50% with springrates 9,2 / 8,4 will have the same spring compression level as
a car 45%/55% with springrates 8,28/9,24

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sry if you mean you have a 45%/55% car (springrate 9,2/8,4) and want about 11 (front?)
9,2 / 8,4 = 11 / x
so the calculation is ... 11 * 8,4 / 9,2 = 10,04
=> stiffer spings: FR:11,0 / Rear:10,0
weight balance (45%/55%) does not matter in this case
 
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lamborghini1536
sorry little typo:
45%/55% = 450kg/550kg

so you have -10% load on the front ... and +10% load on the rear (against a well balanced 500kg/500kg car)


do you agree in this point? any question? ... this is the reason, why a shift from 50%/50% to 45%/55% weight cause a difference of 10% of the load on an axis (500kg/500kg to 450kg/550kg)

a 50%/50% car with springrates FR9,2 / Rear8,4 will decrease/increase per 10% so you have
in a 45%/55% car:
front 9,2 -10% = 9,2*0,9 = 8,28
rear 8,1 +10% = 8,4*1,1 = 9,24

on a "standing" car - no movement or weight-transfer in corners, acceleration or deceleration

a car 50%/50% with springrates 9,2 / 8,4 will have the same spring compression level as
a car 45%/55% with springrates 8,28/9,24

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sry if you mean you have a 45%/55% car (springrate 9,2/8,4) and want about 11 (front?)
9,2 / 8,4 = 11 / x
so the calculation is ... 11 * 8,4 / 9,2 = 10,04
=> stiffer spings: FR:11,0 / Rear:10,0
weight balance (45%/55%) does not matter in this case
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Sorry but i still don't understand. 450-550=100kg=10% from the total weight 1000 kg , -50kg in front = 5% and +50kg rear =5%
I don't understand when you say """so you have -10% load on the front ... and +10% load on the rear (against a well balanced 500kg/500kg car)""".

For the formula also ,i understand like this, for 8,4 and 9,2 you have
8,4+9,2=17,6 / 2= 8,8 medium tare of the springs.

What i mean is ,if i want to in crease the medium stiffness of springs to 11 for example , why can't i spread the load the way show the weight repartition on the setting panel.

Example for a 45% front 55% rear and i want 11 of stiffness, can i do,
11 - 5%= 10,45 FR and 11+ 5%=11,55 REAR.

let say FRONT10.5 and REAR 11.6 will be the same proportion with just a stiffer springs but the same weight repartition...?????

This is what i want to do, and work the tune around this principal and i hope right information given by PD. Sometime we have to do so stranges settings for a tune work on a car, that i want to respect this value at least and give my way for the rest. This my goal.

Sorry if there is something that i don't catch,but i need to understand this, have a good day.
 
i am sorry if i misiterpret your question

Sorry but i still don't understand. 450-550=100kg=10% from the total weight 1000 kg , -50kg in front = 5% and +50kg rear =5%
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you dont have to substract these two values
befor shifting: the car is balanced: front50%/rear50% ... means front 500kg / rear 500kg
after the shifting: front45% / rear55% ... so the weight is 450kg on the front / and 550 kg on the rear
first we look only on the front:
balanced 500 kg (springrate 10.0)
shifted 450 kg ... this is 50kg less which is 10% off ... and therefore the springrate has to be lowered 10% (not 5%) ... new springrate 9,0

Example for a 45% front 55% rear and i want 11 of stiffness, can i do,
11 - 5% = 10,45 FR and 11+ 5%=11,55 REAR.
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... for a 45% front 55% rear and i want 11 of stiffness, can i do,
11,0 - 10% = 9,9 FR and 11,0 + 10%=12,1 REAR


I don't want boring you !
and i don't want to steel your time with this !
:cheers:
 
lamborghini1536
i am sorry if i misiterpret your question


you dont have to substract these two values
befor shifting: the car is balanced: front50%/rear50% ... means front 500kg / rear 500kg
after the shifting: front45% / rear55% ... so the weight is 450kg on the front / and 550 kg on the rear
first we look only on the front:
balanced 500 kg (springrate 10.0)
shifted 450 kg ... this is 50kg less which is 10% off ... and therefore the springrate has to be lowered 10% (not 5%) ... new springrate 9,0



... for a 45% front 55% rear and i want 11 of stiffness, can i do,
11,0 - 10% = 9,9 FR and 11,0 + 10%=12,1 REAR


I don't want boring you !
and i don't want to steel your time with this !
:cheers:
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Now it is ok ! i see the light in my beachboy brain ,to much wind to much sea,sometime give bug :crazy:.

It's clear now , i'm going to apply this.

I don't want boring you !
and i don't want to steel your time with this !
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I have to say this not you !!:)

Thanks again.
 
Hi Praiano. You say in this thread somewhere that you are proud of the Yellowhat Nissan. I don’t know about that one, but you should also be really proud of the Yellowhat Supra tune. It’s brilliant. I just used it to bash through the Super GT seasonal. After driving the FF shootout, I thought I’d have heaps of trouble moving back to a high powered FR. Not so with the Supra. The only time I spun was when I tried to spin it to see how far I could push it. Stable as mate. I love it! 👍 I’ll try the Arta NSX next.

Thanks a bunch. Keep up the very good work.
 

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