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I'm sure I was one of the first to post my disappointment with the quality of the "Prize Cars" in GT4.
However, nudged into action by Kent's thread found (HERE) and my own effort with a "Stock" Sauber vs the Formula GT Series (Run back in June) & found (HERE) I decided to find out just how BAD they really are. Since I'd already run the Sauber with fairly strict rules I decided to use a similar set-up for this test:
NO Horsepower "Ups" except for OIL Changes, NO Weight Reduction & NO Wings Allowed! Changing Tyres or Chassis/Drivetrain parts Allowed. Plus Chassis/Trans adjustments are "O.K."
Of course with the "mindset" that MOST of the Prize Cars were "JUNK" I didn't expect to "Win" many races. Boy was I in for a pleasant surprise!
With a little "Tweaking" here & there (Although many races were Won withOUT) I've managed to best the "AI" in 76 Series & 10 Enduros to date. If any of you beat some I didn't according to the rules above, just PM me & I'll add 'em in & give you Credit! 👍
SORRY there's not more descriptions of the action...but when I started I didn't expect to win more than a few races & didn't keep notes early on. I've added a few short notes here & there.
I'd really be remiss NOT to send out a BIG THANX to Kent!
I foolishly sold several Prize Cars & really didn't relish running their series to win them again just so I could run the series YET ANOTHER TIME! 
Kent came to my rescue & sent me a "Super Save" with unused rides I could buy onto my card! I owe you one!!!
Beginner thru Endurance Halls
BEGINNER HALL:
Sunday Cup: AUTOBIANCHI A112 Abarth '79 87-134 A-Spec [Changed Oil / Tyres/Running Gear]
MR Challenge: LOTUS Esprit Turbo HC '87 44-65 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Light Weight K Cup:: GINETTA G4 '64 2-3 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Sport Truck Race:: CHEVROLET Silverado SST Concept '02 6ea A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
PROFESSIONAL HALL:
Clubman Cup: MAZDA Mazdaspeed 6 '05 114-126 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Tuning Car Grand Prix: NISSAN OPTION Stream Z '04 2-3 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Race of NA Sports: HONDA NSX-R Concept '01 136-154 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Race of Turbo Sports: MAZDA BP FALKEN RX-7 (D1GP) '03 24-64 A-Spec [Changed Oil ONLY]
Boxer Spirit: RUF CTR Yellow Bird '87 8-10 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
World Compact Car Race: HONDA S800 RSC Race Car '68 94ea A-Spec [Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]
Supercar Festival: CIZETA V16T '94 NO A-Spec notes!
[Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]
EXTREME HALL:
Gran Turismo All Stars: BMW MacLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 157-181 A-Spec [Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]
By FAR the BEST Series I ran! Full race report to follow soon.
Dream Car Championship: NISSAN GT-R Concept LM Race Car '02 7ea A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Like The Wind: VOLKSWAGEN Nardo W12 Concept '01 200 A-Spec [Changed Oil ONLY]
Polyphony Digital Cup: OPERA PERFORMANCE S2000 '04 4ea A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Formula GT World: SAUBER Mercedes C9 Race Car '89 55-90 A-Spec [Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]
ENDURANCE HALL:
Laguna Seca 200 Miles: FORD GT40 Race Car '69
(Didn't run but NO Doubt it would win)
Nurburgring 4 Hours Endurance: Chaparral 2D Race Car '67 1 A-Spec Changed to S-1 Tyres ONLY!!!
Ran a short test...3.5 Minutes ahead at the end of 5 Laps!
El Captain 200 Miles: TOYOTA 88C-V Race Car (MINOLTA) '89
(Didn't actually run this one but NO Doubt it would win although it'd be a "Handfull" on Sport Tyres!)
Sarthe Circuit 24 Hours I: AUDI R8 '01 7 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-3/R-2 Tyres ONLY!!!
I ran a 1.5 hour test during which I established a 3 minute lead in 26+ Laps & Lapped three of the five "AI". This against a "Stellar" field including the NISSAN Siblings [R-89 & R-92], an AUDI R-8, PESCAROLO & CORVETTE!!! This computes to about a 14 Lap lead over the R-92 by the end of 24 hours 👍
Sarthe Circuit 24 Hours II: BENTLEY Speed 8 Race Car '03 56 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-2/R-1 Tyres ONLY!!!
I was in 5th by the DUNLOP Bridge, narrowed the gap up to the Minolta TOYOTA's tailights right at the start of the Mulsanne...caught a "Slingshot" draft from him & passed the three front runners "Like Freight Train Passin' a Tramp!" Only ran a TEN LAP test this time but the Bentley's an OBVIOUS winner here!
Over a minute ahead & everyone had pitted. Even talking into account losing HP & the Chassis going away The "Margin" would most likely be 12-13 Laps at the end! 👍
Suzuka 1000km: LISTER Storm V12 Race Car '99 10 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-1/R-2 Tyres ONLY!!!
I must post this one "Conditionally" as it would be VERY Close at the finish in my opinion! THANX to Smallhorses thread found HERE I knew somewhat what strategy the "AI" would use. Ran the test out to 30 Laps at which time I was 25 seconds in the lead...BUT...taking into account that I'd need to stop 6-7 more times for TYRES (The LISTER litterally "Chews" them up! ) I canNOT say w/certainty that the LISTER can win this thing. I hit my stride about lap #20 & ran off a string of sub 2'03s so I do THINK it's possible w/NO driver errors 👍
EDIT: Re-examination of my notes shows a lead of about 1+ Lap after 172 circuits "Should" be possible. By FAR the closest challenge I've found in the Endurance section!!! 👍
Fuji 1000km: NISSAN R92CP Race Car '92 10 A-Spec Changed to R-2/R-1 Tyres ONLY!!!
WOW!!! What a "Ride!" Believe it or not...I'd never before driven this thing! Absolutely murdered 'em! 👍 In 40 Laps ALL the "AI" were down by 2 Laps & three of 'em were down by more!!! I figure the 2nd place car would be down 10-12 Laps in the end !!!👍
Motegi 8 Hours Endurance: HONDA NSX-R LM Edition Road Car '02 1 A-Spec NO Changes!!! NO Tyre Change...NO Oil Change!!!
I was forced to end the BLOOD Letting at the end of Lap #15 What with putting 16-18 seconds per LAP on 'em...I lapped the back markers on Lap #6...then got the leaders half way thru Lap #8. In Eight Hours I calculate Second Place would be around 30 Laps behind!!! Even turned it over to "B-Spec Bernard" (I refuse to call mine "BOB") for a bit. Although he was 6-8 seconds off my pace it would still be a "Cakewalk"!!!👍
Tokyo R246 300km: MITSUBISHI FTO Super Touring Car '97 73 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-1/R-2 Tyres ONLY!!!
FINALLY a race too close to just run a "Test" 👍 I truely did NOT think the FTO capable as PD has chosen to reduce the Down Force to a ridiculous level! BUT...After a little "Tweaking" & using an "Unusual" tyre combo, I found it was able to get the job done. Full "Race Report" can be found HERE.👍
The following due to the "Sharp Eyes" of member "GeeTeeR" 👍 THANX...O.G.
Tsukuba 9 Hours Endurance: NISSAN Skyline GT-R Race Car (CALSONIC) '93 1 A-Spec NO Changes!!! NO Tyre Change...NO Oil Change!!!
As surmised by "GeeTeeR", NO race to be found here. Ran a quick test & the only challenge would be NOT hitting the other competitors as you lap them numerous times.
However, nudged into action by Kent's thread found (HERE) and my own effort with a "Stock" Sauber vs the Formula GT Series (Run back in June) & found (HERE) I decided to find out just how BAD they really are. Since I'd already run the Sauber with fairly strict rules I decided to use a similar set-up for this test:NO Horsepower "Ups" except for OIL Changes, NO Weight Reduction & NO Wings Allowed! Changing Tyres or Chassis/Drivetrain parts Allowed. Plus Chassis/Trans adjustments are "O.K."
Of course with the "mindset" that MOST of the Prize Cars were "JUNK" I didn't expect to "Win" many races. Boy was I in for a pleasant surprise!
With a little "Tweaking" here & there (Although many races were Won withOUT) I've managed to best the "AI" in 76 Series & 10 Enduros to date. If any of you beat some I didn't according to the rules above, just PM me & I'll add 'em in & give you Credit! 👍SORRY there's not more descriptions of the action...but when I started I didn't expect to win more than a few races & didn't keep notes early on. I've added a few short notes here & there.
I'd really be remiss NOT to send out a BIG THANX to Kent!
I foolishly sold several Prize Cars & really didn't relish running their series to win them again just so I could run the series YET ANOTHER TIME! Kent came to my rescue & sent me a "Super Save" with unused rides I could buy onto my card! I owe you one!!!Beginner thru Endurance Halls
BEGINNER HALL:
Sunday Cup: AUTOBIANCHI A112 Abarth '79 87-134 A-Spec [Changed Oil / Tyres/Running Gear]
MR Challenge: LOTUS Esprit Turbo HC '87 44-65 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Light Weight K Cup:: GINETTA G4 '64 2-3 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Sport Truck Race:: CHEVROLET Silverado SST Concept '02 6ea A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
PROFESSIONAL HALL:
Clubman Cup: MAZDA Mazdaspeed 6 '05 114-126 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Tuning Car Grand Prix: NISSAN OPTION Stream Z '04 2-3 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Race of NA Sports: HONDA NSX-R Concept '01 136-154 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Race of Turbo Sports: MAZDA BP FALKEN RX-7 (D1GP) '03 24-64 A-Spec [Changed Oil ONLY]
Boxer Spirit: RUF CTR Yellow Bird '87 8-10 A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
World Compact Car Race: HONDA S800 RSC Race Car '68 94ea A-Spec [Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]
Supercar Festival: CIZETA V16T '94 NO A-Spec notes!
[Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]EXTREME HALL:
Gran Turismo All Stars: BMW MacLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 157-181 A-Spec [Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]
By FAR the BEST Series I ran! Full race report to follow soon.
Dream Car Championship: NISSAN GT-R Concept LM Race Car '02 7ea A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Like The Wind: VOLKSWAGEN Nardo W12 Concept '01 200 A-Spec [Changed Oil ONLY]
Polyphony Digital Cup: OPERA PERFORMANCE S2000 '04 4ea A-Spec [NO Mods!!!]
Formula GT World: SAUBER Mercedes C9 Race Car '89 55-90 A-Spec [Changed Oil & Tyres ONLY]
ENDURANCE HALL:
Laguna Seca 200 Miles: FORD GT40 Race Car '69
(Didn't run but NO Doubt it would win)
Nurburgring 4 Hours Endurance: Chaparral 2D Race Car '67 1 A-Spec Changed to S-1 Tyres ONLY!!!
Ran a short test...3.5 Minutes ahead at the end of 5 Laps!
El Captain 200 Miles: TOYOTA 88C-V Race Car (MINOLTA) '89
(Didn't actually run this one but NO Doubt it would win although it'd be a "Handfull" on Sport Tyres!)
Sarthe Circuit 24 Hours I: AUDI R8 '01 7 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-3/R-2 Tyres ONLY!!!
I ran a 1.5 hour test during which I established a 3 minute lead in 26+ Laps & Lapped three of the five "AI". This against a "Stellar" field including the NISSAN Siblings [R-89 & R-92], an AUDI R-8, PESCAROLO & CORVETTE!!! This computes to about a 14 Lap lead over the R-92 by the end of 24 hours 👍
Sarthe Circuit 24 Hours II: BENTLEY Speed 8 Race Car '03 56 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-2/R-1 Tyres ONLY!!!
I was in 5th by the DUNLOP Bridge, narrowed the gap up to the Minolta TOYOTA's tailights right at the start of the Mulsanne...caught a "Slingshot" draft from him & passed the three front runners "Like Freight Train Passin' a Tramp!" Only ran a TEN LAP test this time but the Bentley's an OBVIOUS winner here!
Over a minute ahead & everyone had pitted. Even talking into account losing HP & the Chassis going away The "Margin" would most likely be 12-13 Laps at the end! 👍Suzuka 1000km: LISTER Storm V12 Race Car '99 10 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-1/R-2 Tyres ONLY!!!
I must post this one "Conditionally" as it would be VERY Close at the finish in my opinion!
THANX to Smallhorses thread found HERE I knew somewhat what strategy the "AI" would use. Ran the test out to 30 Laps at which time I was 25 seconds in the lead...BUT...taking into account that I'd need to stop 6-7 more times for TYRES (The LISTER litterally "Chews" them up! ) I canNOT say w/certainty that the LISTER can win this thing. I hit my stride about lap #20 & ran off a string of sub 2'03s so I do THINK it's possible w/NO driver errors 👍 EDIT: Re-examination of my notes shows a lead of about 1+ Lap after 172 circuits "Should" be possible. By FAR the closest challenge I've found in the Endurance section!!! 👍
Fuji 1000km: NISSAN R92CP Race Car '92 10 A-Spec Changed to R-2/R-1 Tyres ONLY!!!
WOW!!! What a "Ride!"
Believe it or not...I'd never before driven this thing! Absolutely murdered 'em! 👍 In 40 Laps ALL the "AI" were down by 2 Laps & three of 'em were down by more!!! I figure the 2nd place car would be down 10-12 Laps in the end !!!👍Motegi 8 Hours Endurance: HONDA NSX-R LM Edition Road Car '02 1 A-Spec NO Changes!!! NO Tyre Change...NO Oil Change!!!
I was forced to end the BLOOD Letting at the end of Lap #15
What with putting 16-18 seconds per LAP on 'em...I lapped the back markers on Lap #6...then got the leaders half way thru Lap #8. In Eight Hours I calculate Second Place would be around 30 Laps behind!!! Even turned it over to "B-Spec Bernard" (I refuse to call mine "BOB") for a bit. Although he was 6-8 seconds off my pace it would still be a "Cakewalk"!!!👍Tokyo R246 300km: MITSUBISHI FTO Super Touring Car '97 73 A-Spec Changed Oil & R-1/R-2 Tyres ONLY!!!
FINALLY a race too close to just run a "Test" 👍 I truely did NOT think the FTO capable as PD has chosen to reduce the Down Force to a ridiculous level!
BUT...After a little "Tweaking" & using an "Unusual" tyre combo, I found it was able to get the job done. Full "Race Report" can be found HERE.👍The following due to the "Sharp Eyes" of member "GeeTeeR" 👍 THANX...O.G.
Tsukuba 9 Hours Endurance: NISSAN Skyline GT-R Race Car (CALSONIC) '93 1 A-Spec NO Changes!!! NO Tyre Change...NO Oil Change!!!
As surmised by "GeeTeeR", NO race to be found here. Ran a quick test & the only challenge would be NOT hitting the other competitors as you lap them numerous times.
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& therefore NOT elgible! 
Now I know how to get the suzuki escudo! Excellent job O.G.!!!!!
