professional turbo sports race

[ving]

g'day folks. got a quick Q for yas.

I am re doing the pro turbo sports races. I have done them in a evo6 modded to about 330kw pretty easy. now i am redoing it in my rx7. it has teh following mods:
race flywheel
chip
sport exhaust
semi-race suspension
s3 tires
and whatever turbo mod takes it up to about 360kw.

now this car is a sweet handler and takles the twisty stuff with ease. the only real challenger inteh race is the lotus esprit when it pops up so i am thinking about dropping the power... 50% cars over take me as it is tho on teh str8s tho, its thru out handling that i am winning. but theres seems to be a handling problem...

ride height 118
damp: 4/4
camber: 1.5/1.5 (i have tried no camber at front ie 0/1.5)
default rest.

when heading into turn one of the high speed ring i tend to lose it... the fron slips then the back and next thing i know i am heading inteh wrong direction. now i could obviously just put some weight inteh back to hold it down or add downforce but i dont want to go down this road.... got any ideas with out buying anything? I have reduced speed to just below 200 to hang on during the bend but the others fly past at this speed.

fangs.

 

[bjb]

Try a camber of 2.5 or 3.0 front and 1.0 or 0.5 back and set your damper to 5 or 6 over all.
I don't add weight, I find it makes the car unpredictable but if it helps go for it.
Also set the back ride height 10mm to 20mm higher than the front.

 

[ving]

seems excessive... i'll try it tho. wont decreasing the camber on teh rear make it MORE likely to kick out on that first fast corner tho?

 

[bjb]

I find that less is more with the back wheels camber angel.

this is just off the top of my head there most likely be more things you can do.

What RX-7 is it.

 

[Smallhorses]

Ahem, ving....
You've been here long enough to remember this haven't you?

• 
  No slang words that promote laziness, ie; "r", "u", "plz", etc. will be tolerated. Decent grammar is expected, including proper usage of capital letters. Repeated violations will be grounds for suspension and/or permanent removal from the forums.

If not, have a re-read of the AUP and take note of what it says in future!

Seriously though, some of that first post is just unintelligible!
"inteh"? What the heck is "inteh"?

 

[ving]

inteh is a typographical error sir. my spell checker is broken

"inteh" is obviously "in the"

under "premium" and "quality posts" you should have "spell checker enabled"

hehe


so less cambre in the back hey? I'll have to give it a try.
thanks.

 

[Ignignoc N Err]

I was trying this race group with a bone-stock Lotus Esprit V8 SE from the used car lot, and I got tired of getting spun-out by the AI, so I'm on sabbatical from GT for now. I'm gonna have to find a high-points car for this race that is a good enough performer to NOT be pushed around like a pansy-girl.

Seriously, I was finishing up the Tokyo R246 race, 30m from the finish line, and I get pushed from behind and spun out. I was po'd.

 

[Smallhorses]

50% cars over take me as it is tho on teh str8s tho, its thru out handling that i am winning. but theres seems to be a handling problem...

One typo. Ok, no big deal.

Sentences like that quoted above? That's not a typo, that's deliberate gibberish and idiocy.
Cut it out, for your own sake.

 

[ving]

One typo. Ok, no big deal.

Sentences like that quoted above? That's not a typo, that's deliberate gibberish and idiocy.
Cut it out, for your own sake.

yeah, yeah... ok settle petal. I will mind my manners. its just one post in about a year, but point taken....

You do realise that thats how the demographic for playstation games talk dont you?

anyhow enough of this, back on topic.


Ignignoc N Err: the rx7 i used (a late model one) gave me about 160-170 a-spec points. and if it weren't for the first corner it would be a walk in the park... i just cant... sorry can not keep the speed up through that corner for some completely unknown reason. I am running s3 tires front and back so i might try and put something a tad harder on the front to stop the back coming around so quickly on high speed corners. this will mean i will suffer n the twisty stuff...
I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[Boz Mon]

inteh is a typographical error sir. my spell checker is broken

"inteh" is obviously "in the"

under "premium" and "quality posts" you should have "spell checker enabled"

hehe


so less cambre in the back hey? I'll have to give it a try.
thanks.

I was gonna say something but decided against it.

 

[ving]

probably just as well Boz Mon... probably just as well.

 

[Ignignoc N Err]

I've got the RX-7 Type-R laying around somewhere in my garage. It's one of the only FD bodies without 276 hp, more along the lines of 235 hp. I didn't have any troubles with them in the corners, but the AI had cars with ÜB3R POWAH that kept gunning me out in the straights. And as we all know, Tokyo's front straight is HUGE, giving them PLENTY of time to overtake my 3-4 second lead before the finish. And when I try to block them out, they just nose into my rear fender until I spin, and they go merrily along their way to a 1st place finish (dirty bastards).

Thanks for the suggestion, though. I may try it out, if I can ever touch it again without grinding the disc to powder.

 

[ving]

AI had cars with ÜB3R POWAH ...

careful!
the grammar police are watching!

just remember tho i am talking about the high speed ring, not tokyo... and its corner 1, the big fast lefty.

 

[TuneRVisioN]

careful!
the grammar police are watching!

just remember "THO" i am talking about the high speed ring, not tokyo... and its corner 1, the big fast lefty.

The grammer police are watching you right now too...

I never use camber though, as it reduces traction and increases breaking distances. I use it for Photo Mode.

 

[Tulok]

... what about cornering?
no camver in a corner is not good.

 

[Jay]

Hey Ving nice to see you are still around, still into the Fiat Coupes Turbos.

 

[ving]

hi viper, yeah still loving my fiat coupes
they are just a beautiful car to look at

hi TV, if you use a bit of camber it helps in corners by distributing the weight of the car more evenly across the entire tred of the outside tires... in theory giving you a faster cornering speed. most new cars come out with a bit of camber on the rears. if you only use a bit then your braking wont be compromised too much




(spell checker used)

 

[TuneRVisioN]

I still hate camber. I don't know why... Anyone noticed the extremely high rear camber angle on the Shelby Series 1 Coupe in the american hall? I saw it on some replay.

 

[Dark Elite]

(spell checker used)

Try employing a bit of grammar, too, and some sentence structuring. You still have a spelling error in that post - I have never used a spellchecker in any of my posts here, and I have never been found guilty of any grammatical or typographical mistake. A bit of thought is all it takes.

DE

 

[dudejo]

what is this, school? an annual grammar test?

i'll agree his first post was a bit excessive but now i can clearly understand what he's saying.

does that rule only apply to excessiveness like said post? do we need to pass a grammar/spelling test before being allowed to participate in these forums?

on topic, i tried your settings on a RX-7 RZ '00 and i didn't notice any oversteer to speak of. which model were you running?

if dropping your front camber didn't work, you could always try putting harder tires in front (though this is only recommended for wear management).

 

[daan]

what is this, school? an annual grammar test?

No, but you are expected to use English and grammar to the best of your ability.

No slang words that promote laziness, ie; "r", "u", "plz", etc. will be tolerated. Decent grammar is expected, including proper usage of capital letters. Repeated violations will be grounds for suspension and/or permanent removal from the forums.

i'll agree his first post was a bit excessive but now i can clearly understand what he's saying.

Yes, but would that be because English is your first language? GTP is a multi-national forum. Would you expect a Finn, or a German, or a Belgian etc to immediately understand Ving's first post in this thread? We have to make it as easy as we can for non-native english speakers to read, understand and take part in these forums. Using proper English and grammar makes this an awful lot easier.

Now, lets get back to the topic at hand. Thanks

 

[ving]

does this ruling take into account say socio-economic status of members? their schooling? even english speakers sometimes have trouble with spelling and grammar and to expect it to be perfect each and every time is not reasonable.

I have been coming here and posting since gt3 days and early gt4 and I know for certain things were alot more relaxed back back then... what happened?

However if this is the road the forum has taken I will (to coin a phrase that not all will understand) toe the line. I have seen forums with built in spell checkers, i wonder if that is an option here?

 

[Mt. Lynx]

There is a spell checker?

On Topic: Try softening the suspension. Do you run semi racing or FC? Anyway:
Springs: F 9 R 8
Rideheight: 80-90
Damper: 3/3 (bounce)
Rebound: 6/5
Camber: 2.5/1.0
Toe: 0/2
Stabilizers: 4/3

 

[Dark Elite]

does this ruling take into account say socio-economic status of members? their schooling? even english speakers sometimes have trouble with spelling and grammar and to expect it to be perfect each and every time is not reasonable.

No, but you are expected to use English and grammar to the best of your ability.

DE

 

[Ignignoc N Err]

If you're at least trying to type proper English, and your content and concept is clearly conveyed, I can't see a problem. However, if you single-handedly murder the English alphabet, and rape and pillage the homes of Grammar and Syntax, then you should be moderated, or at the very least, given a chance to correct yourself.

On topic: Team 666 posted some settings that reflect a suggestion I was about to make. If you soften the rear springs and raise the rear to match, you should be able to "bite down" when you accelerate, yet still get enough forward weight-transfer to corner well.

 

[bjb]

The settings and parts below are for the RX-7 Type RS with 353kw.

Parts:
Sports Exhaust.
Chip.
Stage 3 turbo.
Sports Intercooler.
Semi-racing Suspersion.
S3 tyres.

Settings: front rear.
Suspersion.
spring rate 7.0 6.0
Ride height 104 114
damper 6 6
camber 2.5 1.0
driving aids.
ASM (both) 0
TCS 5

This set up should work for you RX-7.

 

[Jay]

I have seen forums with built in spell checkers, i wonder if that is an option here?

Yep, in the normal reply page (Not quick reply) there is a spellchecker above the smilies on the right, little 'abc' icon.

 

[ving]

The settings and parts below are for the RX-7 Type RS with 353kw.

Parts:
Sports Exhaust.
Chip.
Stage 3 turbo.
Sports Intercooler.
Semi-racing Suspersion.
S3 tyres.

Settings: front rear.
Suspersion.
spring rate 7.0 6.0
Ride height 104 114
damper 6 6
camber 2.5 1.0
driving aids.
ASM (both) 0
TCS 5

This set up should work for you RX-7.

hey thanks...
I am going to have to go and recheck what i have on the car... i know i have sports exhaust, chip and sports inter cooler, but i swear i only have turbo stage1.... lol (laugh out loud), it would be like me to get kilowatt and horse power mixed up

hehehe!

 

[ving]

its a RZ, i gave it a stage 2 turbo, sports intercooler, chip and sports exhaust for power input, it has s3 tires, race flywheel and only sports suspension.

 

[ving]

hi bjb,
gave your settings minus the springs because i only have sport suspension and it seems to have worked a treat making the car generally more stable. I have yet to try it on the track in question but i tried it on the new york track to come so close to winning that it wasnt funny... its a much better drive now.

many thanks