Project Shaft: The Ultimate Drifting Machine
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- deca_tarce
- Deca Tarce
I dunno I bet he was too SHORT SIGHTED to think of that. That'd be my SHORT SIGHTED guess. Do you have a phrase a day calendar or something?
Regardless of the validity of any points you make you come off as a very excitable annoying crazy person.
Regardless of the validity of any points you make you come off as a very excitable annoying crazy person.
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- SaftyJoe
Ooooh, he didn't see that one coming! Haha.
I find this video really helpful in looking at both the similiarities and differences between drift and rally. It's worth pointing out that Gittin Jr. gets the hang of rallying far better than Block gets the hang of drifting. He can't seem to work out what proper countersteer is.
As for having fun in cars, I'm all for that, be it FWD, RWD or 4WD. However, calling something something when it isn't doesn't sit well with me.
And as for drifting a uni cycle, I believe that to be impossible as at least 2 wheels are needed for the slip angle of one to be greater than the other.
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- deca_tarce
- Deca Tarce
I think the slip angle would be measured relative to the vector of the velocity. Granted, I'm not entirely confident that its actually physically possible for a unicycle to drift 
>No evidence
>No pictures
>Self proclaimed D1 professional
lol, let me say it again. Bitch please.
- 555
- Derby, England
- SaftyJoe
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- deca_tarce
- Deca Tarce
Based on the persistence of sammo85, I'm beginning to think that he's taking this entire thread as a personal attack because he can't drift FR cars.
I lol'd more than i should have hahahah
- 555
- Derby, England
- SaftyJoe
lmao
- 1,093
- GTP_Pergatory
You sir, hit the nail on the head. Slip angle is measured against the vector of the vehicle, not against the angle of another wheel. If the unicycle was in a corner of some kind and sliding toward the outside while using forward power to propel itself toward the inside of the corner then I'd say that's a controlled slide, and therefore a drift. Sure would be something to behold, that's for sure...I think the slip angle would be measured relative to the vector of the velocity. Granted, I'm not entirely confident that its actually physically possible for a unicycle to drift
Fair enough, but it's still drifting even if you think it's a cop-out. I personally don't think AWD drifting is as easy as you guys think it is, it's FF e-brake or tray sliding that is the real joke. AWD drifting takes skill. Sure anyone can toss it sideways and power through a slide, but that means nothing. A real AWD drift follows the proper race line, keeping in mind that the optimum race line for a sliding AWD is slightly different from the optimum line for a sliding FR. It really is a different ballgame which is why you don't really see them mixing FR & AWD drifters together, but it's not easy, and it IS drifting.
Ask any of the big names like Keiichi or Orido and they'll tell you the same.
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- TwinTurboCH
KSL: Nothing to do with 'self proclaimed', i earned the right to call myself a D1 driver like everyone else who has a licence. Check my thread for the evidence you seem to crave.
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- nk4e
Language please. Edit when you can, thank you. 👍 Otherwise, please carry on with the "Ultimate Drift project".
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- BEMBEMBOWBOW
Dare I ask why AWD cars can't drift? I mean, I figured it was like drifting with training wheels but I never knew people didn't consider that drifting.
So I guess FF drifting or "ass dragging" is Lucifer??
So I guess FF drifting or "ass dragging" is Lucifer??
lol, arguing about awd and fr. what is important is the driving skills.
So as the topic of this thread said, The Ultimate drift machine.
Anyone that always stick to one car for drifting is his/hers ultimate drift machine.
So i share mine, i use Ae86 gt-apex SS version to drift all the time at tsukuba circuit with randomly selected online drift room.
Will share my setup if anyone want it.
So as the topic of this thread said, The Ultimate drift machine.
Anyone that always stick to one car for drifting is his/hers ultimate drift machine.
So i share mine, i use Ae86 gt-apex SS version to drift all the time at tsukuba circuit with randomly selected online drift room.
Will share my setup if anyone want it.
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- GTP_Pergatory
I guess if I'm gonna post in the thread I should also post on topic...
I will just chime in and agree with what most people have said, that there is no ultimate drift car. Every driver has their own driving style, and different cars will suit different people better.
It's really about finding the ultimate drift machine for you. It won't be anyone else's ultimate drift machine, only yours. Think of Nomura in his Skyline. That thing is tuned perfectly for him, I've seen him do stuff in that car that brought tears to my eyes. Throw any other D1 drifter in his Skyline and sure they could drift the heck out of it, but they won't quite be in their element like Nomura would be. Then think of Taniguchi's S15, that thing is wound so tight he's constantly getting snap understeer and flying off the road. Taniguchi obviously has a more disciplined driving style and likes a really stiff ride. It's more punishing but when he pulls it off the judges love it. Everyone has different style.
I will just chime in and agree with what most people have said, that there is no ultimate drift car. Every driver has their own driving style, and different cars will suit different people better.
It's really about finding the ultimate drift machine for you. It won't be anyone else's ultimate drift machine, only yours. Think of Nomura in his Skyline. That thing is tuned perfectly for him, I've seen him do stuff in that car that brought tears to my eyes. Throw any other D1 drifter in his Skyline and sure they could drift the heck out of it, but they won't quite be in their element like Nomura would be. Then think of Taniguchi's S15, that thing is wound so tight he's constantly getting snap understeer and flying off the road. Taniguchi obviously has a more disciplined driving style and likes a really stiff ride. It's more punishing but when he pulls it off the judges love it. Everyone has different style.
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- TwinTurboCH
Very correct, and quite comical that you should mention those two cars.
Firstly, there are actually 4 'Ken Nomura' R34's in the 2008 guise, one of which is owned by a friend of mine (some of you may have seen it at shows the UK, it still has the full blitz livery and crazy engine and lives in Watford at his tuning garage) and YES it's definately set up for Nomuken's driving style. It's laggy as feck and designed to only slide when you are either full throttle or on the handbrake, because Nomuken likes to be aggressive, so if he goes too far, he lifts off the throttle and the car comes back to him.
Secondly, the HKS S15 (RS2 version) is also in the UK, and the same guy has driven it for HKS Europe at several events and, in his words, it is the best drift car ever built. Completely the opposite of Nomura's, which is designed for one mans preferences only, the HKS car is designed to make even the most ham fisted driver look like a drifting god.
But basically, yes as everyone has said, the perfect car is YOUR perfect car, end of. My perfect car is an R32 with big revvy RB26, but then I know guys who HATE my car and swear by their S13/E36/JZX90 or whatever, it's down to personal choice and driving style, nothing more
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- nk4e
Very correct, and quite comical that you should mention those two cars.
Firstly, there are actually 4 'Ken Nomura' R34's in the 2008 guise, one of which is owned by a friend of mine (some of you may have seen it at shows the UK, it still has the full blitz livery and crazy engine and lives in Watford at his tuning garage) and YES it's definately set of for Nomkuen's driving style. It's laggy as feck and designed to only slide when you are either full throttle or on the handbrake, because Nomuken likes to be aggressive, so if he goes to far, he lifts off the throttle and the car comes back to him.
Secondly, the HKS S15 (RS2 version) is also in the UK, and the same guy has driven it for HKS Europe at several events and, in his words, it is the best drift car ever built. Completely the opposite of Nomura's, which is designed for one mans preferences only, the HKS car is designed to make even the most ham fisted driver look like a drifting god.
But basically, yes as everyone has said, the perfect car is YOUR perfect car, end of. My perfect car is an R32 with big revvy RB26, but then I know guys who HATE my car and swear by their S13/E36/JZX90 or whatever, it's down to personal choice and driving style, nothing more
That is good to know 👍 Thank you perg and Twin for going indepth.
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- GTP_Pergatory
Haha that's interesting... I wonder if Taniguchi just isn't very consistent then... I haven't seen him drift anything aside from his HKS S15. I kind of assumed he just has a very punishing setup. If the car is tuned like that, maybe he just isn't very consistent.
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- TwinTurboCH
Nah, he's still awesome, search for 'taniguchi altezza ebisu' and watch him lead and follow Orido around the mountain course, he VERY good. Let's face it, he still won plenty of events in it, and that doesn't come from jsut having a savage car. It's merely that S15's generally are very easy to drive (they almost drive themselves) and his was probably the best specced one is existance until Driftworks rocked up with their 700bhp 2JZ one.
Interesting factoid, there are two racks in the boot which hold removable lead weights. In the dry the weights are removed, but in the wet they are installed to increase the weight of the rear of the car on damp/slippery surfaces to increase the traction available when on throttle. When competing drivers over here saw it, it started a trend of people running with their spare wheels in the boot to give extra rear end grip and alter the balance of the car.
