Proper Drift on DS3? How do I do it?

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I've been drifting with DS3... I do Suzuka Circuit Drift a full lap one. I did 3.2k.. Can anyone help me? how do I do it properly? Do I have to tinker with the suspension settings? Do I need a certain car to do it? Do I have to Accelerate on a curve to do it? HELP PLEASE!
Thank You.
 
Don't worry about your car's settings, just get use to drifting and find your own style, then you can tune for a purpose. I could go into a huge long explanation of how I think controller drifting can be done, but its really something you have to learn for yourself.

I recently adopted a new way of drifting a DS3, and I recommemd you try it, if you have wheel experience it will be so much easier.

Instead of repeatedly tapping left or right for your countersteer, push forward on the stick as if its a wheel to go straight. Now smoothly push out countersteer in a "semicircular motion."

Think of it as if your DS3's control stick is a 180 degree wheel, push forward while you do tiny, small, smooth inputs and try to emulate how a wheel would do its thing. The way I see it, if you're going to learn how to drift controller, at least do it as best you can.

PM me for more help, its hard to explain. When PSN is back you're free to practice with us in our lobby. 👍

There is a lot of ways to drift a DS3, you would be surprised how smooth you can make the front wheels if you use the right approach.
 
Adavicro
I recently adopted a new way of drifting a DS3, and I recommemd you try it, if you have wheel experience it will be so much easier.

Instead of repeatedly tapping left or right for your countersteer, push forward on the stick as if its a wheel to go straight. Now smoothly push out countersteer in a "semicircular motion."

Think of it as if your DS3's control stick is a 180 degree wheel, push forward while you do tiny, small, smooth inputs and try to emulate how a wheel would do its thing. The way I see it, if you're going to learn how to drift controller, at least do it as best you can.
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I do a similar thing when racing on my DS3 rather than G25 as well so I know what you're on about, it's a decent way to get a little more precision when needed but it's not for everyone.

Ultimately however it's best to just practice and find what suits you better, some suggest using very low powered cars, some suggest high power cars and that's because of the preference rather then people being wrong. I always found Eiger a good place to learn to drift, as it has a decent mix of low and mid speed corners with the relatively high speed uphill section as well (usually most difficult to learn).

To begin with brake nice and early and don't rush yourself, there's no need to brake late whilst you're learning. Then remember you don't need to use fancy techniques either, just begin with power-over or use the E-brake to force a slide and then try to control it. Remember when exiting a drifting to avoid snap back you want the wheels relatively straight also (practice needed here also).
 
Dragonistic
I do a similar thing when racing on my DS3 rather than G25 as well so I know what you're on about, it's a decent way to get a little more precision when needed but it's not for everyone.

Ultimately however it's best to just practice and find what suits you better, some suggest using very low powered cars, some suggest high power cars and that's because of the preference rather then people being wrong. I always found Eiger a good place to learn to drift, as it has a decent mix of low and mid speed corners with the relatively high speed uphill section as well (usually most difficult to learn).

To begin with brake nice and early and don't rush yourself, there's no need to brake late whilst you're learning. Then remember you don't need to use fancy techniques either, just begin with power-over or use the E-brake to force a slide and then try to control it. Remember when exiting a drifting to avoid snap back you want the wheels relatively straight also (practice needed here also).
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We need more of these types of posts in the drifting forum.

👍 👍
 
nk4e
Its all about practice and sensitive movements. Now I want a PS3...
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WHAAAAAT??? But how... do you not have one??? lol

Back to the topic, i have learned the DS3 and now trying the wheel, but wut when i first got it down, i was on Eiger in a lightly tuned 370z. The first curves i would be in 2nd to 3rd gear all the way to the sweeper before the tunnel which i would enter around 70mph, the last uphill curve i would enter in 4th. (drop to 3rd if i felt i didnt have enough rpm to make it.)
 
Been trying to drift with a controller for a while, got a few decent runs last night on Tsukuba after just letting the car get sideways on its own and then working the throttle and countersteer.

Using the AEM S2000, got a run of around 8000 last night that looked good too. What I've been doing is just entering the turns at 50-60 mph (no throttle, just coasting). The last big turn before the finish I go around 75 but its much bigger and the track is wider.

I usually just enter the turns in the middle of the track.

Can I apex the turns or should I stay in the center? I know that what I'm currently doing isn't a total drift, more like turning a slide into a drift but I'm trying to learn.
 
I'm quite new at drifting never drifted on the past Gran Turismo games.
Only tips I can give you is switch off all driver aids apart from ABS, use comfort tyres and try manual transmission. Also don't go mad on the weight reduction it helps when you shift weight.
My starting car was actually the Dome which handles quite well but then I mainly used a Silvia s13 forget which model Q I think you can't add turbos and a SilEighty. Both very lightly tuned with no tranny, drivetrain or suspension changes. Then slowly I added those and messed around with them, avoid NA tuning to begin with and then yeah see how it feels later.
The AEM is a weird choice, it handles a little to well for drifting but I guess it's about personal taste. Oh and ignore the stuff about drivetrain FR, MR or AWD is all good even FF if you want a challenge!
 
aland18
Been trying to drift with a controller for a while, got a few decent runs last night on Tsukuba after just letting the car get sideways on its own and then working the throttle and countersteer.

Using the AEM S2000, got a run of around 8000 last night that looked good too. What I've been doing is just entering the turns at 50-60 mph (no throttle, just coasting). The last big turn before the finish I go around 75 but its much bigger and the track is wider.

I usually just enter the turns in the middle of the track.

Can I apex the turns or should I stay in the center? I know that what I'm currently doing isn't a total drift, more like turning a slide into a drift but I'm trying to learn.
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That's the best and most effective way to learn how to drift in my opinion, especially on a wheel. A lot of newer drifters try to do too much too fast with crazy e-brake ripping and massive weight transfers, by doing this it will take them longer to learn the basic fundamentals or even worse, miss out on some.

By just giving it a little bit more gas then you should through a corner, it will want to slide on its own, controlling that slide is the best way to learn if just starting out. Kudos. 👍

In regard to hitting the apex, its a good habit to get into for sure. Sometimes there will be outside clipping points in particular sections but most of the time the inside apex is the desired line.
Red-Rice
I'm quite new at drifting never drifted on the past Gran Turismo games.
Only tips I can give you is switch off all driver aids apart from ABS, use comfort tyres and try manual transmission. Also don't go mad on the weight reduction it helps when you shift weight.
My starting car was actually the Dome which handles quite well but then I mainly used a Silvia s13 forget which model Q I think you can't add turbos and a SilEighty. Both very lightly tuned with no tranny, drivetrain or suspension changes. Then slowly I added those and messed around with them, avoid NA tuning to begin with and then yeah see how it feels later.
The AEM is a weird choice, it handles a little to well for drifting but I guess it's about personal taste. Oh and ignore the stuff about drivetrain FR, MR or AWD is all good even FF if you want a challenge!
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If you mean NA as in naturally aspirated, those are probably my favorite engine build slightly behind supercharged. You get great throttle response and the power comes on smooth, no turbo lag to worry about or a huge spike of torque.

I would also recommend learning in a FR layout to learn the basics of true drifting, then perhaps branch out into sliding other drivetrain layouts for fun or whatever.

These are just my opinions. 👍
 
Adavicro
Instead of repeatedly tapping left or right for your countersteer, push forward on the stick as if its a wheel to go straight. Now smoothly push out countersteer in a "semicircular motion."

Think of it as if your DS3's control stick is a 180 degree wheel, push forward while you do tiny, small, smooth inputs and try to emulate how a wheel would do its thing. The way I see it, if you're going to learn how to drift controller, at least do it as best you can.
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I found this out as well. It only makes sense when you consider that the semi-circumference of the analog stick is longer in distance than the diameter of the stick. So theoretically you would have more range of motion swiveling around with the stick rather than just hard jabbing left and right. Also, pressing the stick up stiffens up the stick as it slides against the plastic of the controller slowing down it's movement.

Using this method I'm now able to re-correct snap backs after an oversteer without any wobble. My yellowbird was impossible to control until I mastered how to kill the snap back after the oversteer.
 
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Adavicro
If you mean NA as in naturally aspirated, those are probably my favorite engine build slightly behind supercharged. You get great throttle response and the power comes on smooth, no turbo lag to worry about or a huge spike of torque.

I would also recommend learning in a FR layout to learn the basics of true drifting, then perhaps branch out into sliding other drivetrain layouts for fun or whatever.

These are just my opinions. 👍
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Sorry man I didn't mean avoid it all together just when you're starting. Couldn't stand NA cars as they seemed to just redline like mad but now I'm slowly starting to like their feel. Stage 1 turbos have hardly any lag and well even the higher ones have it low rpm, I guess with proper gear ratios you can avoid the dead spot. Turbos seem quite smooth to me, then again the way I drift at the moment is digital so it's either on/off.
 
Want to :lol:. The tournament that I am playing in requires PS3 controllers though I can get a converter for 40 dollars to play on both.
 
Adavicro - thanks for the input. I never have been a fan of e-braking anyway. I started using a Spirit RX-7 last night and enjoyed it. Using a stage 1 and stage 2 turbo since the stage 3 just didn't feel as responsive.

A question on the power limiter - if I bump a stage 3 turbo down in power will the response time get better (i.e. perform like a smaller turbo) or will it have the same lag?

Also on tires - do Comfort Softs have less grip that Sports Hard or is it more of a durability issue?
 


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im from indonesia lets learn and practicing together bro ...
 
Stavingo
So I guess you're more used to XBox controllers?
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To me, it shouldn't matter. I will get use to it after practicing offline and online. To me, if you can have fun with it then you will get use to it faster than pressuring yourself to always be the best. The Xbox is more of a FPS genre for me than PS2.
 
aland18
Adavicro - thanks for the input. I never have been a fan of e-braking anyway. I started using a Spirit RX-7 last night and enjoyed it. Using a stage 1 and stage 2 turbo since the stage 3 just didn't feel as responsive.

A question on the power limiter - if I bump a stage 3 turbo down in power will the response time get better (i.e. perform like a smaller turbo) or will it have the same lag?

Also on tires - do Comfort Softs have less grip that Sports Hard or is it more of a durability issue?
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I think if you use a stage 3 turbo and use the power limiter to limit your car's horsepower, it will still behave the same(lag, power spike, etc) so I would recommend stock or stage 1 turbos. Some people don't mind turbo lag, I don't mind it so much but would prefer the power coming on smooth.

In regard to tires, sports hard are grippier than comfort softs, not sure about the durability, I'm not much of a fan of tire wear but I would guess the sports hards would last a bit longer
 
nk4e
To me, it shouldn't matter. I will get use to it after practicing offline and online. To me, if you can have fun with it then you will get use to it faster than pressuring yourself to always be the best. The Xbox is more of a FPS genre for me than PS2.
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Fair enough, I can't get the feel for an XBox controller. I was going to suggest to you a cross hybrid controller for the PS3, they look pretty sweet.
 
Stavingo
Fair enough, I can't get the feel for an XBox controller. I was going to suggest to you a cross hybrid controller for the PS3, they look pretty sweet.
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I have a PS2 converter to play PS2 controllers on the 360. :lol:
 
For the rx-7 I would recommend the mid turbo(stage 2) as give a half decent torque increase as well as a good hp increase, it does have a little lag. but with the mid turb(stage 2) it's always running at high revs near max power.
but if u get the wrong gearing it can mean bad lag.
For must turbo cars i recommend the stage 2 as it gives good torque
 
Adavicro
I think if you use a stage 3 turbo and use the power limiter to limit your car's horsepower, it will still behave the same(lag, power spike, etc) so I would recommend stock or stage 1 turbos. Some people don't mind turbo lag, I don't mind it so much but would prefer the power coming on smooth.

In regard to tires, sports hard are grippier than comfort softs, not sure about the durability, I'm not much of a fan of tire wear but I would guess the sports hards would last a bit longer
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thanks. figured that was the case but wanted to be sure.

I'm not a huge fan of running Comfort Hards yet because I still need a little help from the tires in traction control.

Sports Med were a pain to get sideways. The Comfort Softs and Sports Hards were fairly similar.
 
Well... i guess im the only drifter on GTP that uses d-pad to turn instead the analog, like a stubborn ancient gamer. So ill keep my mouth shut.
 

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