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Can someone tell me something about this?



It feels like i was totally outgunned on straight (like if i had -10 or 15 hps) and on corner exit it was just INSANE...

Any clue what can make such a difference?
 
Can someone tell me something about this?



It feels like i was totally outgunned on straight (like if i had -10 or 15 hps) and on corner exit it was just INSANE...

Any clue what can make such a difference?


That looks like a combo of Diogo getting a better exit from Ascari, a touch of lag, giving the impression of drawing alongside then accelerating and a slipstream.

On the second straight after Parabolica you had a good run and were sticking with him. Are you running downforce? It looks like the M3 has much more grip around parabolica. Corner exit is all about carrying speed and getting as early on the throttle as possible, without losing traction.

Had you had any accidents before that point? A little aero damage can cost a MPH or two down the straights as well, compounding the effect.


Yo guys my wheel took a **** this weekend it bin a long time coming. Had been playing threw it cuz I love racing but now it won't even calibrate. Ima have to pull out the series get this situated. Was hoping I could get threw both my seasons just was not the case :boggled:.

That is a bummer Smokes. Any likelyhood of getting it fixed/another one sorted in the near future? I hope you can get a replacement sorted soon fella.
 
I will give away a litle secret for the ones who don´t know yet, when using the helmet view, you can balance you car by changing the drivers position from back to front and up down, meaning that, as your car becomes lighter from the fuel consuption you can move the driver arround to compensate and keep your car balance.;)

You heard first on :gtpflag:
That actually has an effect on car balance? I figured it would just be a case of moving the camera around like it is in Assetto Corsa.
 
Race Results, Championship standings and Weather for Round 7 Brands Hatch GP

Race results
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Championship standings
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Next Race Driver Lists

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Round 7 - Brands Hatch GP Weather for Sunday Nov 08th


Race 1 - 11:00 - Clear - Dry
Race 2 - 14:00 - Light Cloud - Dry
Number of laps - 22

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Peace and love people! :cheers::gtpflag:
 
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That looks like a combo of Diogo getting a better exit from Ascari, a touch of lag, giving the impression of drawing alongside then accelerating and a slipstream.

On the second straight after Parabolica you had a good run and were sticking with him. Are you running downforce? It looks like the M3 has much more grip around parabolica. Corner exit is all about carrying speed and getting as early on the throttle as possible, without losing traction.

Had you had any accidents before that point? A little aero damage can cost a MPH or two down the straights as well, compounding the effect.

I had a tiny little bit of aero to make up for lack of ABS, but he was pulling off like crazy in many other occasions... Disheartening for it's not something driving can cope with....
 
I had a tiny little bit of aero to make up for lack of ABS, but he was pulling off like crazy in many other occasions... Disheartening for it's not something driving can cope with....
Your aero, ride height, spring rate, transmission, and ducts have the most impact on your top speed.
 
I may be back organizing a no-tune serie someday.. it would be hop in and race and no countless useless tuning hours. Let me know if you may be interested.

hope to see you around!

Azidahaka, I understand and would probably run in a series like that. But now that I have had a taste of tuning, and able to wrap my head around it, i kind of like it. Ive been following Zaks and OZ around GTPlanet picking up tips here and there. The only thing that gets me is the culture shock of moving from room 1 to 2. This last race was stressful for me. When you see a 3 second gap between the leader and yourself, it is very frustrating. If I was a bad driver, I could understand but feel im on target with driving. Ive watched hours of Zaks driving watching his lines, corner entry, exit, throttle control and feel im on target. And when i push for those extra few seconds it always ends with an accident. I pushed to hard at monza and it cost me. I am going to grind till i find those 2-3 seconds if it kills me. I would like to test a theory though. I wonder if we could schedule a NO-TUNE race and see what happens. Just for the hell of it. I would like to see if the gaps shrink.
 
Azidahaka, I understand and would probably run in a series like that. But now that I have had a taste of tuning, and able to wrap my head around it, i kind of like it. Ive been following Zaks and OZ around GTPlanet picking up tips here and there. The only thing that gets me is the culture shock of moving from room 1 to 2. This last race was stressful for me. When you see a 3 second gap between the leader and yourself, it is very frustrating. If I was a bad driver, I could understand but feel im on target with driving. Ive watched hours of Zaks driving watching his lines, corner entry, exit, throttle control and feel im on target. And when i push for those extra few seconds it always ends with an accident. I pushed to hard at monza and it cost me. I am going to grind till i find those 2-3 seconds if it kills me. I would like to test a theory though. I wonder if we could schedule a NO-TUNE race and see what happens. Just for the hell of it. I would like to see if the gaps shrink.

I honestly think in a normal track no drivers can claim a 3 seconds gap to another one to be all of "driving"; we never had such gaps in the one-make serie i closed down, and that was tuning allowed.

So i feel you 100%... If you can tune, you are faster, safer, winner. If you can't do it well, you are always over the edge trying to close on, and spend many hours "trying to tune" to find that bit extra speed instead of just driving.


btw,

08th Nov - Brands Hatch GP - GBR [20:00 GMT/15:00 EDT]
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15th Nov - Bathurst - AUS [20:00 GMT/15:00 EDT]
22nd Nov - Road America - USA [20:00 GMT/15:00 EDT]

3 of the worst tracks ever for close racing and m3 in a row :crazy:
Should really brace myself to not sit out and wait for some better ones.
 
positively negative ^^
Easy for you to say SPEEDY!! :lol: Just joking mate!!! You put the drive in us to drive faster. I think it gets frustrating for some of us that's all. I am getting a handle on tuning though. The tune you gave me i studied the changes that i made and can see why that made me faster. It is hard for someone with little experience to :confused: understand tuning. But take my word for it, it can be done. I feel lucky to be apart of such a great community and league. I'm 43 YO and still loving it. Some say its just a game but i believe its a little more than that for us. At least it is for me. :cheers:
 
Easy for you to say SPEEDY!! :lol: Just joking mate!!! You put the drive in us to drive faster. I think it gets frustrating for some of us that's all. I am getting a handle on tuning though. The tune you gave me i studied the changes that i made and can see why that made me faster. It is hard for someone with little experience to :confused: understand tuning. But take my word for it, it can be done. I feel lucky to be apart of such a great community and league. I'm 43 YO and still loving it. Some say its just a game but i believe its a little more than that for us. At least it is for me. :cheers:
I do Like tuning to some extent, but the needed amount to get on a decent tune to experts and the increased speed gap makes it more and more important to either be a great tuner or have countless hours available for trial, testing and training.

This to keep you on 3 seconds gap from usual aliens... If one was to run stock against them and their tunes the gap would probably be 5-6 seconds. Madness!
 
@azidahaka
In a 10 corner track if you lose .300s on each corner you will be 3s back by the end of the lap, and if it´s a corner before a long straight you can lose even more if you mess up your exit.
I could lose that on parabolica when I mess up my braking point, usualy braking to late, it makes you lose a lot of speed to be able to rotate the car and get on the power again.
Usualy people focus to much on braking as late as possible and compromise their corner speed and accelaration point.
Don´t get me wrong, branking as late as possible is good BUT only if you can still hit the corner´s apex and accelarate right after you hit the apex.
Take ascari for exemple, i try to be on the throtle even before I hit the apex of the first left and maintaind full power through out the next right and left to maximise my straight speed.

BTW do your car uses more front or rear tires?

I just saw your video, and on parabolica you brake too soon, you lose too much speed and you did´t use all of the track exiting the corner.
On the first chicane you approach the first corner too much to the right and too soon that make you get a bad angle for the second corner, making you losse speed and conpromise your accelaration point
 
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Personally I'm of the opinion that the quicker guys will always be quicker regardless of the tune, sure the gaps may be a bit smaller with a one make/spec race but even so. It seems to me that the quicker guys are more consistent with their steering/throttle/breaking/shifting inputs while on the limit. Obviously a good balanced tune that suits your personal driving style will help consistently hit apexes & use all the track on exit and the better tuners will have an advantage with this, but I don't think it's a magic bullet.

Over a single lap (when I'm not generously giving myself penalties or crashing) I think I have similar pace to @azidahaka , @Simfan David & a few others & I also find tuning a bit of a minefield & it does take a LOT of time specially when you're new to it. In other series I raced in I just used a tune I found on the interwebs, but this Series of Skanky's has made me want to learn to tune the cars for myself. At this point if I can get the car to be competitive in room 2 I feel like I done it more by luck than by knowing what I'm doing lol. This guys videos helped shed some light on the dark art of tuning for me, maybe you'll find it helpful to.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8vLMSxw70-yuJO3dUuwlaV423MOhPUiN
 
I honestly think in a normal track no drivers can claim a 3 seconds gap to another one to be all of "driving"; we never had such gaps in the one-make serie i closed down, and that was tuning allowed.

So i feel you 100%... If you can tune, you are faster, safer, winner. If you can't do it well, you are always over the edge trying to close on, and spend many hours "trying to tune" to find that bit extra speed instead of just driving.


btw,



3 of the worst tracks ever for close racing and m3 in a row :crazy:
Should really brace myself to not sit out and wait for some better ones.
Let's use any GT3 car besides the RUF or M3(since we use them) with a stock tune and see what lap times we do. Do you have time Friday night?
 
@azidahaka
In a 10 corner track if you lose .300s on each corner you will be 3s back by the end of the lap, and if it´s a corner before a long straight you can lose even more if you mess up your exit.
I could lose that on parabolica when I mess up my braking point, usualy braking to late, it makes you lose a lot of speed to be able to rotate the car and get on the power again.
Usualy people focus to much on braking as late as possible and compromise their corner speed and accelaration point.
Don´t get me wrong, branking as late as possible is good BUT only if you can still hit the corner´s apex and accelarate right after you hit the apex.
Take ascari for exemple, i try to be on the throtle even before I hit the apex of the first left and maintaind full power through out the next right and left to maximise my straight speed.

BTW do your car uses more front or rear tires?

I just saw your video, and on parabolica you brake too soon, you lose too much speed and you did´t use all of the track exiting the corner.
On the first chicane you approach the first corner too much to the right and too soon that make you get a bad angle for the second corner, making you losse speed and conpromise your accelaration point

In parabolica i left him through to draft him and see what was up with his sovrahuman speed.

At chicane just had to take that line to avoid hitting him. No abs makes impossible brake+turning together.

Concerning tires I always use a bit more front tires but are usually always in good shape like I could run other 15-20 mins in most tracks.
 
Let's use any GT3 car besides the RUF or M3(since we use them) with a stock tune and see what lap times we do. Do you have time Friday night?
Mmmh what about Thursday?

I would use up some time I should use for brands but I'm sure it won't make much of a difference.
 
Concerning tires I always use a bit more front tires but are usually always in good shape like I could run other 15-20 mins in most tracks.

This tell me two things, your car is understeering or you are not using the full potencial of the back because you don´t have cofidence to put the power down on corner exit.
I usualy setup my car to have a litle bit of understeer on corner exit on a neutral state (no throtle) so to make him rotate on exit i HAVE to get on the power.
 
This tell me two things, your car is understeering or you are not using the full potencial of the back because you don´t have cofidence to put the power down on corner exit.
I usualy setup my car to have a litle bit of understeer on corner exit on a neutral state (no throtle) so to make him rotate on exit i HAVE to get on the power.

I have problems setting differential acc lock/normal tuning. if i get a tune that is more or less ok in those situations i usually end up with a car that misbehaves in others...


Today have been busy curing this >_>

I've got a 1.24.7 (just once) and getting around in mid 25s... Might have to work with rear ARB...
 
I honestly think in a normal track no drivers can claim a 3 seconds gap to another one to be all of "driving"; we never had such gaps in the one-make serie i closed down, and that was tuning allowed.

So i feel you 100%... If you can tune, you are faster, safer, winner. If you can't do it well, you are always over the edge trying to close on, and spend many hours "trying to tune" to find that bit extra speed instead of just driving.


btw,



3 of the worst tracks ever for close racing and m3 in a row :crazy:
Should really brace myself to not sit out and wait for some better ones.
I can tune reasonably well, and I'm about the same pace as you. And I'm far from bad.
 
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