RACE ITCC 4 - Congratulations to champions! Unofficial final points - Post #3411Finished

[ITCC_Andrew]

Haha, Motegi Oval could be a one-off.

 

[Turbo_snail]

Lol I find it funny that in the last days of gt5, I've made a unbelievable track creator track.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Lol I find it funny that in the last days of gt6, I've made a unbelievable track creator track.

ITCC 4 won't have track creator tracks. ITCC 5 maybe... Depending on how GT6's track creator turns out.

 

[Turbo_snail]

How do I set tracks to be used by friends, because it really does take ballsy driving, and would suit itcc cars. That was only the second time I'd had a go in track creator.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I've yet to drive a track creator course that I've liked - outside of rally stages, which are typically meant to be unknown/challenging/off-camber-difficult.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DD1q4RNdSjuVjn99wfk4wXXaRaETbHUxSldCJcdY7ck/viewform


Just a reminder about that... For those of you who haven't seen it.


Also, troll responses are simply deleted - and there are now filters in place to prevent trolling in the first place.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Looks like a majority of the votes have favoured the following tracks:


1. Silverstone National
2. Spa
3. Trial Mountain
4. Brands Hatch
5. Bathurst
6. Apricot Hill
7. Nürburgring 24hr.
8. Motegi East
9. Laguna Seca
10. Ascari


So, that is our preliminary schedule pending any changes post-GT6-release. Basically, if everything still runs smoothly at those circuits (no horrendous/stupid/out-of-place glitches or extremely difficult to drive corners) that will be our season... Organized to be a logical progression through tracks, not organized by number of votes as it's currently organized.



An example would be to start with Silverstone National, Brands Hatch, Spa, Ascari, and so on as a European leg, before moving on to U.S.A. and Oceania/Asia.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Can we add Matterhorn Rotenboden to the schedule?

 

[Turbo_snail]

Just drove ascari for the first time and

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Can we add Matterhorn Rotenboden to the schedule?

No. No. No. Kill it with fire.


Ascari will be fun once people learn its proper fast lines. I haven't yet. Bathurst is my second favourite of the "new" tracks, behind Apricot Hill.

 

[Turbo_snail]

One of the Matterhorn tracks is un-be Oh sorry I just thought about the undulation and corner variety and started to gorg at it again.

 

[Dano20]

My favourite track is all of the new ones they are so awesomely designed into gt6

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Guys, Matterhorn won't be in this season. Maybe another - maybe - but not this one.

 

[Furinkazen]

Guys, Matterhorn won't be in this season. Maybe another - maybe - but not this one.

Matterhorn is awesome.

 

[gtpcaine]

I love Matterhorn for a time trial type event... as for racing on it, no thanks. Good call Andrew.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I don't see how anyone can stand the track. It's soooo absurdly strange.


The track roster for ITCC 4, you'll see, is amazing. Lots of curb-hopping, lots of passing opportunities, and lots of ITCC-style shenanigans.


Edit: Focus '03 is now Focus '06. I can't stand the styling of the wings on the '03. what a stupid looking scaffolding rig.

 

[LancerEvo7]

...and lots of ITCC-style shenanigans.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

not that type. I'm more talking about the points battles, etc. Than I am crashing etc.


Compare last season (pretty clean) to season 1 (...) Yeah. Season 3 had more shenanigans than season 1.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Okay, right then:




1: Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V ’04
2: Audi S4 ’03
3: BMW 330i ’05
4: Ford Focus ST ’06
5: Honda ACCORD Euro-R ’02
6: Opel/Vauxhall Vectra 3.2 V6 ’03
7: Peugeot 406 Coupé 3.0 V6 ’98
8: Seat Ibiza Cupra ’04
9: Volvo S60 T-5 Sport ’03
10: Mazda 6 5-door ‘03



Those are the cars I'm currently testing. Some may or may not survive the process of elimination. Italicized cars have a premium interior view.


And the tracks for Season 4:


Silverstone National will kick things off in dramatic wet/dry weather fashion, followed by Trial Mountain, Deep Forest Raceway, an endurance event at Bathurst (the top voted circuit), Special Stage Route 5, Ascari Race Resort, Côte D'Azur endurance, Apricot Hill Raceway, and a Spa-Francorchamps Endurance.

1: Silverstone National (sprint type) - with weather change - Northamptonshire, UK
2: Trial Mountain (sprint type) - Salzburg, Austria
3: Deep Forest Raceway (sprint type) - St. Petersburg, Russia
4: Mt. Panorama Circuit (endurance type) - with time/weather change - Bathurst, Australia
5: Special Stage Route 5 (sprint type) - Tokyo, Japan
6: Ascari Race Resort (sprint type) - with time/weather change - Ronda, Spain
7: Côte D'Azur (endurance type) - Monte Carlo, Monaco principality, France
8: Apricot Hill Raceway (sprint type) - with time/weather change - Porto, Portugal
9: Brands Hatch (sprint type) - with time/weather change - Surrey, UK
10: Spa Francorchamps (endurance type) - with time/weather change - Ardennes Forest, Belgium



Yes, some of your favourite circuits are missing. Yes, there are some old, boring tracks in there. We have to leave some fun for ITCC5, right? The tracks have been chosen to keep things exciting. Every week, the circuit will feel entirely fresh - no city course after city course after city course nonsense.


And, since some people may or may not have had a chance to drive some of the ITCC cars, I'll open up the teams/cars/driver registration. Good luck in Season 4!

 

[Turbo_snail]

First sign up be right here!!, and I don't think I'm the only one shocked by the inclusion of monaco.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

ITCC 4 base regulations:

​

All cars:​

Racing Hards
Racing Intermediates
Racing Wets
carbon drive shaft (if applicable)
window weight reduction (if applicable)
carbon hood (your choice of colour/type) (if applicable)
fully adjustable racing suspension
​

FF cars:​

295 hp, 1200 kg.
6 speed sequential dog engagement triple plate clutch & gearbox


FR cars:

295 hp, 1290 kg.
5 speed manual with double plate clutch


AWD cars:

295 hp, 1350 kg.
5 speed manual with double plate clutch



Lobby settings:


Room comment: ITCC 4
Type: Race for Real
Privacy: Friends Only
Race Quality: High
Fixed Host Status: No
Voice chat: DISABLED
Room mode: P/Q/R -> P/R -> P/R
Course settings: generated by host (based on actual weather, distances, etc.)
Qualifier Format: Race alone (10 minutes)
Hold Races Automatically: DISABLED
Start type: Grid Start
Grid order: Fastest first -> reverse grid (previous results) -> reverse grid (previous results)
Boost: OFF
Penalty: None
Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Normal
Grip Reduction: Real
Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 0
Require Tire Type Change: Off
Race Finish Delay: 180 seconds
Visible Damage: Off
Mechanical Damage: None
Slipstream Strength: weak
Car Selection Method: garage
Car Filters: Performance
PP Limit: No Limit
HP Limit: 295 hp
Minimum Weight: 1350 kg -> 1290 kg -> 1200 kg
Drivetrain: FF/FR/4WD
Tires: Racing Hard
Nitrous: Prohibited
Vehicle Tuning: No Limit
Limit Driving Aids: All disallowed but (except/excluding) ABS allowed




Aero Kits:

Ford Focus ST '06

Aero Kit Type A
Flat Floor Type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing Type A OR Custom Wing Type B


All Other Cars

Generic Wing Types A-E acceptable
Custom Wing Type B preferred on SEAT Ibiza Cupra



Rims:

Wire rims unacceptable
Steel Rims unacceptable




Car specifications subject to change pending testing. Please feel free to test and tune your cars to feel how they run, according to these rough guidelines.​

 

[cnd01]

Picked up my gt6 copy today. Haven't had a chance to play it yet, but I'm watching and waiting. I might have to drop in a time or two at least cnd mountain is calling my name

@ITCC_Andrew

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

You're welcome to join, as always.



Just keep in mind, though, that there's only one American car - the Neon is not in this season. If you want an American car, like in Season II, well you've gotta grab it.

 

[cnd01]

You're welcome to join, as always.



Just keep in mind, though, that there's only one American car - the Neon is not in this season. If you want an American car, like in Season II, well you've gotta grab it.

I'll have to drive the cars on gt6 to figure out what I want. Bathurst endurance sounds tempting as well. I'm assuming specs are still subject to change.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Specifically for Audi, BMW, and Focus mainly. The Focus has that fancy dancy diffuser... I'm not sure how much faster that will make it. BMW and Audi have the other drivetrains, not FF...



Specs should remain pretty similar, though... So long as all 10 cars can meet the ideal HP/weight for that drivetrain.

 

[cnd01]

Specifically for Audi, BMW, and Focus mainly. The Focus has that fancy dancy diffuser... I'm not sure how much faster that will make it. BMW and Audi have the other drivetrains, not FF...



Specs should remain pretty similar, though... So long as all 10 cars can meet the ideal HP/weight for that drivetrain.

What have you noticed through testing as of now? I'm curious as to how the different platforms gel.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

That the Honda Accord looks lovely when lowered?



Otherwise, that ITCC 3 tuning setups are a pretty good start for ITCC 4, and that I need more money for the rest of the cars. I've purchased all of them except the Peugeot, now I just need to upgrade all of them. I am getting through all of the licenses and such to make the money which goes straight into ITCC cars, but it's not enough to upgrade all 10 as I want to.


Even the Honda doesn't have Inters or Wets yet.


Edit: But, I know that a good lap at Bathurst is 2:23.xxx approximately. (with 305 hp...)

 

[cnd01]

That the Honda Accord looks lovely when lowered?



Otherwise, that ITCC 3 tuning setups are a pretty good start for ITCC 4, and that I need more money for the rest of the cars. I've purchased all of them except the Peugeot, now I just need to upgrade all of them. I am getting through all of the licenses and such to make the money which goes straight into ITCC cars, but it's not enough to upgrade all 10 as I want to.


Even the Honda doesn't have Inters or Wets yet.


Edit: But, I know that a good lap at Bathurst is 2:23.xxx approximately. (with 305 hp...)

Gotcha. Seems like some good fun to be had. What's your stance on stewarding and race incidents

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Gotcha. Seems like some good fun to be had. What's your stance on stewarding and race incidents

What are those? Those don't happen here. Never heard of them.


Well, the AI who spins me into the wall at Daytona would get a 200 point penalty for spinning the leader on the last lap... BUT that doesn't happen online... Or, at least, it won't, without consequences.


Otherwise, you're going to have to be more specific. In general, I'll be following ITCC 3 rules, with ITCC 3 points, slightly modified to allow for fastest lap points and most laps led points.


So, quickest summary possible:


- 1 move per straightaway (no blocking)
- no divebombing (brake before the car in front)
- no driving backwards ever
- no intentional contact which causes another driver to [need to] slow down
- no impeding traffic by blocking the road or pushing etc.

 

[cnd01]

What are those? Those don't happen here. Never heard of them.


Well, the AI who spins me into the wall at Daytona would get a 200 point penalty for spinning the leader on the last lap... BUT that doesn't happen online... Or, at least, it won't, without consequences.


Otherwise, you're going to have to be more specific. In general, I'll be following ITCC 3 rules, with ITCC 3 points, slightly modified to allow for fastest lap points and most laps led points.


So, quickest summary possible:


- 1 move per straightaway (no blocking)
- no divebombing (brake before the car in front)
- no driving backwards ever
- no intentional contact which causes another driver to [need to] slow down
- no impeding traffic by blocking the road or pushing etc.

Okay. Just seeing how much trouble I can get into

Looks good but we need lots more testing to make sure specs are even