Racers Against Street Racing

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I was at www.streetracing.com and found this.


Racers Against Street Racing?

Recently I picked up a copy of a magazine and saw this ad and within that ad was a small icon that said RASR Racers Against Street Racing. Now you would think since we run this site and Streetracing.com that it would make me mad. Instead I just sort of snickered. Lets examine why it's so funny.

1. Most vendors recognize that the majority of their money comes from the average street racer. It is us that are buying the parts to make our cars faster. Now let me make something clear, thats not say that if you fix your car up to make it faster that automatically means you're going to street race. But I believe, and yes I could be reading too much into this, that RASR is an association of professional racers. So by vendors supporting RASR aren't they in essence shooting themselves in the foot? I mean most professional racers get sponsored by these companies thus getting thier parts for free. So don't companies really want to appeal to you and I since we are the ones actually spending them money? OK so lets say I just have NO clue what I am talking about, which is more true than not. Lets say OK vendors support RASR in order to get bigger companies like Toyota, Honda, Mitsu to buy their parts because they are against street racing. Weigh the amount of money they get from regular consumers vs. the big company consumers. The big companies may need 1000 parts a year and they expect them at a deep discount. The average consumer probably buys 25 parts per year now multiply that by the number of street racing or legal street racing (Q racing) people. On the conservative side San Diego alone probably has 500 racers. OK so you do the math. Thats SD alone! So doesn't make more sense to just keep quiet about how the company personally feels about street racing? I mean this is business right? Yes we recognize that street racing is dangerous and so is legal racing. But by supporting RASR it seems to me that you essentially alienating your consumers because the reality is that not all of us are professional racers. We race on the streets and at the Q. Does that mean we are not good enough to buy your parts?

2. Do they really think for a second that their little professional racers never raced on the streets? Reality check please! Do they think that they obey the law at all times? That they don't speed or get into a sudden speed contest with a rev of an engine at a stop light? Seems to me that its a case of, "I did it but because I have sponsors you can't do it...I am Holier Than Thou" Seems to me that by supporting RASR you're gonna piss off a lot of non-professional racers.

Now this isn't sour grapes. I could care less I am just pointing out things that made me laugh when I saw that. Charlie and I have always known that any sponsors we have or will get are totally silent. We don't tell people who or who is interested in sponsoring us because we know that companies don't like to be involved in anything that has to do with street racing. We could have very well opted to cover legal only events. But thats not reality. Reality is that racing occurs on the streets and at legal venues. We cover both. The good and the bad of both events. We tell it like it is. So we probably forfeit a lot of sponsorships because we cover the reality of racing not just the pretty little cars on the perfect race track legally racing. I'm gonna give you a funny little fact that I learned in my Journalism class. The National Enquirer has the largest subscription base and the highest circulation. Interesting huh? Want to know why? Controversy. This site is controversial as well and we know that. The National Enquirer has very little support from the Journalism world because of the subjects that they cover but they have a huge fan base just as we do. Sounds familiar huh?

I know this sounds like we totally support street racing in this article. We don't. We don't support anything we just report what we see. All I am saying is don't act Holier Than Thou now that you have sponsors or you're trying to get new sponsors by supporting/creating RASR. Seems to me you're only going to hurt yourself in the end by pissing your fans off and having regular people buy from other places.

Maybe an optional club or whatever is should be called something like RADD Racers Against Drunk Driving, RFSR Racers For Safe Racing, encouraging helmets, seatbelts, sobriety, safer car parts, and legal venues without alienating the people.
 
I couldnt agree more. Plus......many people say that street racing is dangerous. Under most circumstances, i agree, it is. But, when people get together in large groups (illegally) it is/ can be just as safe as any track. Its mainly the lil punks that cruise through the neighborhood revving at every stop sign and light that end up getting people hurt.
 
I really don't agree with this...

It says streetracing is dangerous and so is track racing, well obviously the writer is missing the point. Which is that street racing can kill innocent bystanders and track racing can only kill your own dumb self.

I think it's sad to see people defending crimes like this. "Support the economy" my ass!
 
Well I found this and I thought it would be intresting to show you guys what people think of street racing. I would have posted it over in my Street Racing thread but no one would have seen it there.
 
Thanks Powerman.

See I know what the article is trying to say (It wasn't hard to figure out) But see I can relate to it.
 
I race at the drag strip and do it properly and on occasion street race.
If you were to do nothing exciting in life, we would all have pretty dull lives and never leave the house.
Who cares what others think about street racing. Its been going on since the invention of the automobile and if it wasnt for the F&F movie, this subject wouldnt even be mentioned.
The movie has invoked countless kids to emulate the movie and put on their own parts in which they know nothing about.
Things wont change and there will always be street racing.
I quick read the article and this is what I think about it.
I enjoy life too much to let a bunch of slackers, loafs and politicians tell me I cant do this or that. This is my point of view and look back on all the street racing Ive done in my life and dont regret it one bit. Well maybe the one time the guy ran off the road trying to keep up with me while racing in my Buick. :haha:
Just enjoy life, dont take it for granted and dont get too intoxicated while racing to pay attention to your surroundings.
Thats all I can say about this issue.
Did I make any sense here??
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Originally posted by rufrgt_sn00pie2001
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Which is that street racing can kill innocent bystanders and track racing can only kill your own dumb self.

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Um...that's not true at all. Anybody can get killed when someone's racing on a track. Take a drag race for instance. One of the racers doesn't start out so well, fishtails back and forth, hits a wall and starts rolling, jumps the wall/fence/whatever, rolls up a few dozen levels of bleachers on the sidelines before exploding. "Oh, but nobody would die in that, they were racing on a track!" ;) :P

Then there's that thing that happened a while back where a tire flew into the bleachers and killed some guy. Oh, and then there's rally racing. Don't even get me started on rally racing, now THAT is a dangerous thing to be a fan of! Standing roughly 2 feet from a car going 60 mph on a dirt/gravel road IS NOT A GOOD THING. Some of those fans must be insane :eek:
 
Yeah, but they made the choice to be there - the guy driving home from night shift didn't get the ticket with 'motorsport is dangerous' printed on the back of it.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Yeah, but they made the choice to be there - the guy driving home from night shift didn't get the ticket with 'motorsport is dangerous' printed on the back of it.
Agreed, but that's like people in a plane made the choice to be there so they're more 'deserving' than people on the ground when a plane crashes.
 
Well, not quite how I would have put it. It's not a case of being 'deserving' as such, it's a matter of acknowledging and consenting to dangers. If you step onto an airliner, you know there is a very small risk of being involved in an incident, and if you attend a motor racing event, again there is a very small risk of being involved in an incident.

The point is that these are, to an extent, managed risks.

With airlines, there are thousands of engineers in both private and govt employ working to avoid these accidents. In motor racing in a controlled environment, measures are taken to avoid injuries in crowds.

In street racing, it is an uncontrolled environment, and there is potential for innocent people to get involved in incidents they had no idea they were at risk from.
 
Thank you, Vat_man. I don't care HOW many times I hear "yeah, well, street racing is my right and the damn cops suck for telling me I can't do it", I'm still going to say street racers are dangerous idiots.

Do I street race? To a very small point. I will run in a stoplight contest if the road is clear well ahead, and I back off no more than 10 mph over the speed limit, no matter whether I'm winning or losing.

Do it right, in a controlled environment, among consenting participants and spectators only. It's just not that hard, and why risk innocent lives and property? I'll never understand the lure of the illegals. It's like a bunch of babies who must have that piece of candy, just because mommy said they couldn't.
 
It's not quite what I meant (I couldn't think of better words), but you get the point - acknowleding the dangers. Though a person going on a plane can expect there's a slight chance in being involved in a crash, I bet that in the grandstands at a speedway there's even less of a chance of getting killed.

In any case, I'd love to know how many innocent people are killed in street racing. Very, very, very few, I'd assume. I can never remember hearing of a death this way, but I'm sure there are some.
 
that's twice you've said about that one instance of someone dieing, do you know of any more fatalities directly linked with street racing?????

i'm simply trying to imply that one death do to street racing is rather insignificant, if you consider how many times people street race, and how many people street race.

the probability of killing someone, if this is the only time someone has died, would then be LESS then just driving regularly.

hmmm
 
infallible... did you just say my sisters death was insignificant because she was killed by a streetracr? Who the **** do you think you are to take others lives into your hands?How could you say something as horrible as that? How is a 15 year old girl coming home from school and dieing right in front of me insignificant???
 
Are you freaking kidding me? Innocent people are killed by street racers every day. I live in a small town of less than 10,000 - and there have been two people killed by street racers so far this year. That's not counting at least another 8 or 10 within a 50 mile radius. If it was the drivers who died that would be bad enough, but more frequently it is the passengers, or worse yet, innocent people who were about their normal business and had no reason to expect cars to be travelling 80-100 mph on regular, open access roads.

Do you want names? Spend 5 minutes on Google with "street racing death" in the search engine.

http://www.corral.net/Tragedies/StreetRacing/01122001-Florida
http://www.ahwatukee.com/afn/crime/articles/020118.html
http://www.nola.com/archives/t-p/index.ssf?/newsstory/briefs03_.html
http://www.corral.net/Tragedies/StreetRacing/02021501-Birmingham
http://www.corral.net/Tragedies/StreetRacing/01123101-Oregon

Perhaps you haven't heard the story about the street racer who killed his own mother - that's the first link above. Perhaps you've ignored the many stories about carloads of high school students killed ahile flying through traffic. Perhaps you just want to bury your head in the sand, because you think street racing is way cool and it makes you feel tough and ballsy.

Really, street racing is for idiots. Putting yourself in danger is your business. But putting other people in danger, who have no choice about accepting that risk or not, is morally unacceptable.

Be a real man. Take it to the strip.
 
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One of the best posts I've ever seen on GTP.

neon_duke, thanks - I had no idea the problem was this 'rampant.' Nice job.

Street racing is for idiots? :lol:
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Are you freaking kidding me? Innocent people are killed by street racers every day. I live in a small town of less than 10,000 - and there have been two people killed by street racers so far this year. That's not counting at least another 8 or 10 within a 50 mile radius. If it was the drivers who died that would be bad enough, but more frequently it is the passengers, or worse yet, innocent people who were about their normal business and had no reason to expect cars to be travelling 80-100 mph on regular, open access roads.

Do you want names? Spend 5 minutes on Google with "street racing death" in the search engine.

http://www.corral.net/Tragedies/StreetRacing/01122001-Florida
http://www.ahwatukee.com/afn/crime/articles/020118.html
http://www.nola.com/archives/t-p/index.ssf?/newsstory/briefs03_.html
http://www.corral.net/Tragedies/StreetRacing/02021501-Birmingham
http://www.corral.net/Tragedies/StreetRacing/01123101-Oregon

Perhaps you haven't heard the story about the street racer who killed his own mother - that's the first link above. Perhaps you've ignored the many stories about carloads of high school students killed ahile flying through traffic. Perhaps you just want to bury your head in the sand, because you think street racing is way cool and it makes you feel tough and ballsy.

Really, street racing is for idiots. Putting yourself in danger is your business. But putting other people in danger, who have no choice about accepting that risk or not, is morally unacceptable.

Be a real man. Take it to the strip.

Extremely well put! :thumbsup:
 
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