RevBurner. How does it work?

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I agree with neema. On one hand, if you can go CAN, you will be able to control all kinds of awesome stuff on the cluster... This is however harder and you will likely need to pay someone to set it all up so it works right.

On the other hand, non-CAN, is plug and play as long as you have the pinout showing where to connect the tach, speedo and voltage/ground.
 
Guys, this is the same problem I have with simhardware. Can? man? Sam? I have no farking idea what you're talking about. LOL I can fabricate, build, think in 3D but electronics and me are like oil and water. I'd happily pay someone to do this.
 
Mayaman
Its a wiring schematic for the 997 from soup to nuts I guess. PM me your emails and i'll send it to you. :)
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a quick thought just came to mind when i was working for Audi all the clusters had to be coded to the engine ecu of the individual vehicle you had to submit the vehicle vin number via vagnet and they supply you with a code that enable the ecu to talk with the cluster , same with fiat accept fiat charged your company £15 for it via e-sigi dearlership network .... maybe porsche have same system on this and iam affraid you need a whole engine ecu etc .... how about building replicas with dials that work ?
 
All you really need to know is that right now, CAN devices aren't easy to understand and it's unlikely anyone has hacked a CAN device for anything but basic data snooping for a DIY data logger. Even then, reading CAN messages is one thing, commanding a device is something else... I've been studying electronics for a few years and still don't understand how it works even on a basic level.

How about that pinout, by the way? It would still be helpful to take a look at that.
 
OK the 997 diagram is useless then. I'm still trying to get the 996 guys to respond. This is like pulling teeth. blah!

Is there any gauges that don't look like ricer gauges that I could put in the cluster housing instead? I don't care if the gauges are Porsche or not but from what I'm seeing all the gauges are hideous looking.
 
if u have the 997 cluster just use faces and put different dials that work with the rev burner on the back connecting to the needles of the 997 cluster , what i would do if i wanted them that bad
 
I guess, but will honda work? This is really annoying. AMAZING REV BURNER COUNT YOUR REVS BUT ONLY WORKS WITH EBAY GAUGE WITH FLAMES ON IT.

This is a lot more work and is for electronically inclined people. There should be a list of what gauges work, its useless without that.
 
vasiliflame
if u have the 997 cluster just use faces and put different dials that work with the rev burner on the back connecting to the needles of the 997 cluster , what i would do if i wanted them that bad
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This is probably what I would do. Gut the cluster you have, get some compatible gauges and put the guts in their place, you should be able to swap the needles too.
 
I believe I read on the symprojects forum that Honda Civic gauge work just fine. Any gauge which work with an electric signal will work.

My dashboard, made by Cristiano, is a Mondeo Ghia dashboard. Also with electric gauges.
 
Maybe a brainfart but you could just hack the hell out of any dash and make the needles to be driven by hobby servo motors. That would get rid of any Car-maker-spec witchcraft.

It could possibly work with a RevBurner as servos rely on PWM, I believe car clusters work on the same principle.

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Jet Badger
Maybe a brainfart but you could just hack the hell out of any dash and make the needles to be driven by hobby servo motors. That would get rid of any Car-maker-spec witchcraft.

It could possibly work with a RevBurner as servos rely on PWM, I believe car clusters work on the same principle.

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I've done some playing with servos as a gauge. The main problem with it is that the servos, generally speaking, are not fast enough. I obtained some of the actual stepper motors used in real gauges from ebay and built a little gauge using one. It worked pretty well. The stepper motors are very cheap. "air core" motors are the fastest.

Anyhow, I don't think it will help mayaman in this case.
 
Well, you can always run a digital cluster like in some racing cars. I believe there are such programs/plugins and they allow you to change the template, layout etc. Also you wouldn't have to deal with the hardware cluster revving too low or having the redline in the wrong place. Just a 7"-10" screen behind the wheel and I think the result wouldn't be too bad. You could simulate a GT3 Cup car :)

2013-porsche-911-gt3-cup-race-car-unveiled-photo-gallery-video_9.jpg
 
Jet Badger
Well, you can always run a digital cluster like in some racing cars. I believe there are such programs/plugins and they allow you to change the template, layout etc. Also you wouldn't have to deal with the hardware cluster revving too low or having the redline in the wrong place. Just a 7"-10" screen behind the wheel and I think the result wouldn't be too bad. You could simulate a GT3 Cup car :)

2013-porsche-911-gt3-cup-race-car-unveiled-photo-gallery-video_9.jpg
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Is that steering wheel even available? What would the digital tach behind it be found? I'm still wanting a factory cluster, going to try 986 Boxster that goes back to 1997. Would that be sufficiently old enough?

I'll do some race gauges but again need some guidance on where to find some that don't look like junk. I am a sucker though for beautiful analog gauges.

These seem to be aftermarket, what about these. They're really pretty

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kahn-Speedo...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item519e3d0b86



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That very wheel would probably be possible to attain as GT3 Cup is a quite "anyones" car. Though you could probaby buy a couple of new CSWs for its price. Your local Porsche dealer would be the one to contact if you want that :D Sparco l360 is a quite similar wheel (http://www.sparcousa.com/product/l360), also if you're heading that route MOMO Mod78 and Mod88 are quite sexy wheels.

The digital speedo aswell is a racing spec thing (=made of gold and diamonds). Your best bet would be a simple 7" screen connected to PC and running apropriate software.

About the Porsche clusters I can't really help much but seeing that people successfully exploit e36 clusters for their needs, you could try going that time-tested route. Additionally you can play around with aftermarket background stickers and lighting colors. Even a stock speedo can get really pretty :)
 
I plan on building a dash around my T500 and installing 6 analog gauges from "Auto Meter" The dash will either be finished in carbon fiber or I might check out some of the nice brushed aluminum done on a c&c machine. I will use a wood substrate with a slight curve. I want to install my 7" USB monitor for iSpeed. I will probably canablize my DSD Track Boss and install that directly to the dash with toggle extensions.

I want my dash to look like a road car/race car. The rougher the better. I don't like it to be pretty, that's what my girlfriend is for. Race car and buttons and switches and analogue gauges, lots of em'

Analogue all the way, those digital gauges reek of cheap ...um, well they look terrible IMO. :)

Mayaman talk to the good folks at SymProjects, he knows his stuff. Tell him what you want and he will help you. Just tell him you are interested in his multi-rev burner and see what he has to offer.
 
left888
I plan on building a dash around my T500 and installing 6 analog gauges from "Auto Meter" The dash will either be finished in carbon fiber or I might check out some of the nice brushed aluminum done on a c&c machine. I will use a wood substrate with a slight curve. I want to install my 7" USB monitor for iSpeed. I will probably canablize my DSD Track Boss and install that directly to the dash with toggle extensions.

I want my dash to look like a road car/race car. The rougher the better. I don't like it to be pretty, that's what my girlfriend is for. Race car and buttons and switches and analogue gauges, lots of em'

Analogue all the way, those digital gauges reek of cheap ...um, well they look terrible IMO. :)

Mayaman talk to the good folks at SymProjects, he knows his stuff. Tell him what you want and he will help you. Just tell him you are interested in his multi-rev burner and see what he has to offer.
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excellent choice on the Autometer gauges. been using them for years on my race cars.
well if you prefer analogue gauges it means you are probably as old as me. LOL:tup:👍
 
Yeah really like analog gauges. Wanted to recreate a GT3 RS. Hmmmm, I've already got several factory parts and just picked up the carbon and leather wheel today.

have to figure out a way to adapt that wheel either to a CSW/Elite or maybe a Frex wheel? ECCI doesn't make a force feedback wheel right?

When I'm done, it should function and look pretty bad ass. I but a bid on a GT3 RS headliner today, we'll see.
 
novadave
excellent choice on the Autometer gauges. been using them for years on my race cars.
well if you prefer analogue gauges it means you are probably as old as me. LOL:tup:👍
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I always had the impression Dave that you were the old guy here :D I'm 53 in a few months or maybe it was 29. :) My tach is an Auto Meter, 11,000 RPM, there's a couple cars at iRacing that will rev the distance. :)

Mayaman
Yeah really like analog gauges. Wanted to recreate a GT3 RS. Hmmmm, I've already got several factory parts and just picked up the carbon and leather wheel today.

have to figure out a way to adapt that wheel either to a CSW/Elite or maybe a Frex wheel? ECCI doesn't make a force feedback wheel right?

When I'm done, it should function and look pretty bad ass. I'll but a bid on a GT3 RS headliner today, we'll see.
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I just mounted a Sam Maxwell Momo Mod 26C onto my T500. $500 clams and she's a beauty. I'll post pics in a few days. I just reformatted my racer PC and I'm slowly getting back into action.

BTW Mayaman it's time to step up to iRacing, I could be wrong but something tells me you have already tried it?
 

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