RIDOX Replica Garage-In Memory of TurnLeft-GT40,300ZX,F430,TVR,AEM S2000,Cizeta,TransAm Doug Nash

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution E-CN9A/SNGF028 IV GSR

Tuned to replicate Evo IV GSR
Comfort Soft​

View attachment 383514​

CAR : Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR '96
Tire : Comfort Soft


Specs GSR SNGF 028 ( P,A,B,C )
Horsepower: 273 HP at 6500 RPM
Torque: 260.3 ft-lb at 3000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1350 kg
Ballast : 186 kg
Ballast Position : -50
Weight Distribution : 60 / 40 - as close as possible to real spec 60.74/39.26
Performance Points: 442


GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT Installed in this build )
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Scotia White or any color


Tuning Parts Installed :
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Window Weight Reduction


Suspension -

Front, Rear

Ride Height: 155 155
Spring Rate: 3.84 4.80
Dampers (Compression): 5 2
Dampers (Extension): 4 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 5 4
Camber Angle: 1.0 1.0
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.21

Alternative Update Damper+ARB
Dampers (Compression): 5 3
Dampers (Extension): 6 8
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 4



AYC - Snow / Slow Response - Low Lock
AYC Controller = 37


AYC - Gravel / Medium Response - Medium Lock
AYC Controller = 57


AYC - Tarmac[ / Fast Response - High Lock/B]
AYC Controller = 77 - any higher can be used, but beware of the responsive AYC, it will be more prone to oversteer and front wheels may easily be overloaded.

View attachment 383513​

Brake Balance:
6/10 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 6/10, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.


Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 6/10 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :

Details coming soon.

The car was used in the current AWD 500PP Sports Soft seasonal intermediate level at Apricot Hill, with 442PP and Comfort Soft, capable of 1:40s lap consistently, and in the lead on lap 4 with the 2nd car R34 GTR M Spec hot tailing behind to finish line.

UPDATE 2016 December : Added alternative damper/ARB with focus on rotation on entry and exit, maybe too extreme when combined with AYC Tarmac setting. Added variety of AYC setting. The alternative damper/ARB+AYC Tarmac on CS can easily do low 1:40s at Apricot Hill.

Updated the Evo IV GSR with alternative damper/ARB and variety of AYC settings. Enjoy

 

[Dietrich]

Updated the Evo IV GSR with alternative damper/ARB and variety of AYC settings. Enjoy

Mine is already updated. Used in A-spec Beginners Level Challenge: Tsukuba Circuit. Fast laps and nice experience in handling. Real Sharp on exit. On entry... well, still suffering with no ABS and plenty of burned tires smoke , even with brake balance at 4/8 . But this is my fault, not the car. Thanks Ridox! Good job.

 

[Dietrich]

Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone
Replica

Tuned to replicate Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone
Comfort Hard to Comfort Medium ​

View attachment 489188
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CAR : Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone CN.0706 '67
Tire : Comfort Hard to Comfort Medium



Specs BASE Full Fuel Tank
Horsepower: 349 HP at 7000 RPM
Torque: 271.9 ft-lb at 5500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1100 kg
Ballast : 120 kg
Ballast Position : 10 or Optional 5
Weight Distribution : 44 / 56 or Optional 45/55 with ballast at 5
Performance Points: 502




GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Wheels : Standard Size Stock
Car Paint : GT Old Generation 002-W or Black or Red

Tuning Parts Installed :
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission


Suspension - OEM Lamborghini Spring + Koni Holland Damper Adapted
OEM Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 130 130
Spring Rate: 5.64 5.23
Dampers (Compression): 4 4
Dampers (Extension): 2 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 0.3 0.5 ( Front Optional 0.00 )
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.15


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Stock 5 Speed based on Miura P400 Manual
11/45 Final

Set Default
Set Auto Max Speed to 330kmh / 205mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 2.591
2nd 1.731
3rd 1.225
4th 0.997
5th 0.814
Set Final Gear : 4.091


LSD - BASE SV LSD
Rear
Initial Torque : 12
Acceleration Sensitivity: 24
Braking Sensitivity: 5

OPTIONAL : Use Stock LSD


Brake Balance:
1/2 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 1/2, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.


Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 1/2 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :

Tested at Tsukuba and Matterhorn Dristelen, 1m7s at Tsukuba and 1m18s at Dristelen on CH. Will update again later with replays which should be fun to watch or chase

Brake balance is mandatory at 1/2 to get closer to vintage cars brake performance ( Miura in this case ), less prone to lock up as well and should be a bit hairy on down hill braking, I hope it stays true to the performance on the real car back in the day.

I took this beautiful girl for a ride on Mount Panorama in the 500 PPs Superlap. Got 2:19.840 . The only changes were power limit at 500 PPs and a full set of sports hard tires. So far P700 in the world ranking and P3 in my ranking of friends. Between a lot of Suzuki GSX. The two ahead of me are also GSX ... But all right. I'm really happy that my girl is in shape 👍. Just to let you know. Thank you Ridox!

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Mine is already updated. Used in A-spec Beginners Level Challenge: Tsukuba Circuit. Fast laps and nice experience in handling. Real Sharp on exit. On entry... well, still suffering with no ABS and plenty of burned tires smoke , even with brake balance at 4/8 . But this is my fault, not the car. Thanks Ridox! Good job.

I took this beautiful girl for a ride on Mount Panorama in the 500 PPs Superlap. Got 2:19.840 . The only changes were power limit at 500 PPs and a full set of sports hard tires. So far P700 in the world ranking and P3 in my ranking of friends. Between a lot of Suzuki GSX. The two ahead of me are also GSX ... But all right. I'm really happy that my girl is in shape 👍. Just to let you know. Thank you Ridox!

You're welcome If you haven't, try the Countach LP400, it's pretty good on 500PP.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Aston Martin One-77 2011

Special Build Aston Martin One 77 2011
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium​

​

CAR : Aston Martin One-77 '11
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium

Specs Running Weight
Horsepower: 748 HP at 8000 RPM
Torque : 553.5 ft-lb at 5500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1705 kg
Ballast : 75 kg
Ballast Position : -30
Weight Distribution : 49 / 51
Performance Points: 576


GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
Wheel : Stock or Standard Size PDI P525
Car Paint : Steel Silver or any color



Tuning Parts Installed :
Fully Customizable Suspension
Adjustable LSD
Carbon Drive Shaft

Suspension - Multimatic DSSV Push Rod with rear Hydraulic Roll Bar
Custom Rate/Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 120 120
Spring Rate: 8.16 10.20
Dampers (Compression): 7 5
Dampers (Extension): 3 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 1.5 1.5
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.00


LSD - Personal Setup
Initial Torque : 14
Acceleration Sensitivity: 35
Braking Sensitivity: 15



LSD -Graziano LSD Module Range
Initial Torque : 6 or 14
Acceleration Sensitivity: 6 or 12 or 18 or 15 or 27
Braking Sensitivity: 18 or 27 or 33 or 36

LSD Drive / Coast Graziano ( Use either 6 or 14 Initial Torque )
30% / 55% = 18 / 33 -Recommended
25% / 45% = 15 / 27 -Recommended
45% / 45% = 27 / 27
20% / 60% = 12 / 36
10% / 30% = 6 / 18

Initial Torque at 14 offers more predictable handling changes and stability, while 6 offers more freedom in directional changes.


Brake Balance:
7/10 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 7/10, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 7/10 for ABS1.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/10 brake balance as starting point.

Notes :

This is a special custom build Aston Martin One-77, as the detailed information on the car is hard to find, I decided to make a custom tune of the car but still using whatever information available about the car, the power and weight/distribution, gear ratios and LSD infos are available, while the suspension is custom by me.

I included my own personal LSD setup, it has higher lock on accel and lower lock on braking, try this first and if you don't like it, feel free to use the Graziano locking ratio range offered on the transaxle used by Aston Martin for the ONe-77. There are diverse range of drive/coast lock, I recommended 2 of them, 30/55 and 25/45, with either 6 or 14 initial torque.

The One-77 has been tested at various tracks, from Cape Ring South, SSR5, Bathurst, Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Red Bull Ring, Tsukuba, Apricot Hill, Deep Forest, Trial Mountain and Matterhorn Short.

The car also drives well even on Comfort Medium tires, which IMO offers more realistic lateral grip limit and my preferred tire. I used Comfort Soft on the build as I wanted it to be more driver friendly

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

HONDA LA-NA2 3.2 NSX-R / Type R 2002
"MUGEN NSX RR Concept"

Special Build Mugen NSX RR Concept
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium​

CAR : Honda NSX Type R '02
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium


Specs
Horsepower: 449 HP / 450+ PS at 8000 RPM
Torque: 328.3 ft-lb at 6500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1200 kg
Ballast : 156 kg
Ballast Position : 34
Weight Distribution : 42 / 58
Performance Points: 535



GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Aero Kits : Type A
Rear Wing : Special Type A
Flat Floor Type A ( OPTIONAL ) - Untested
Wheels : Standard Size or +1 Inch Up GT-Ab07 in Black
Car Paint : Platinum White Pearl ( Honda NSX Type S '01 Paint ) or any White



Tuning Parts Installed :
Engine Tuning Stage 3
Sports Computer
Semi Racing Exhaust
Catalytic Converter Sports
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Intake Tuning
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction

Suspension - Kei Office Coilover/Sachs Damper Prototype
Based on DG5 NA2 Coilover Kit with Swift Springs
Lowered 30mm Front / 25mm Rear with High Camber Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 95 100
Spring Rate: 9.00 14.00
Dampers (Compression): 6 5
Dampers (Extension): 4 3 - Optional Front Extension at 5 for Stability
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 1.5 3.0
Toe Angle: -0.14 0.20



LSD HONDA Torque Control Differential with factory preload
Rear
Initial Torque : 30
Acceleration Sensitivity: 30
Braking Sensitivity: 15


AERO
Rear = 5 ( MIN )

Brake Balance:
5/7 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.


Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/7 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :

From suggestion made by @LeGeNd-1 I made this simple tune up of Keiichi Tsuchiya NSX-R build to mimic the specs of Mugen NSX RR Concept. Visually the car can't be replicated, so I only install aero kits and wings to get close.

Power figure also non existent, so I chose to increase it to around 450+PS and weight down to 1200kg, sort of road car version of GT500 NSX.

I made little changes on the damper of the DG-5 coilover setup, added optional front extension at 5 which should be a bit more stable on high speed sweeper and curves.

I tested the car at SSR5, Indy Road Course and Suzuka 2014 on CS tire. This is early version build, with little changes from original base DK NSX-R, so there may be updates later on.

 

[Thorin Cain]

Hope you had a good Xmas Ridox .

I know by the look of the last two posts I am going to have a fun start to 2017 at least :tup:. Nice suggestion @LeGeNd-1 .

Hope you and everyone else has a Happy New Year too .

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Hope you had a good Xmas Ridox .

I know by the look of the last two posts I am going to have a fun start to 2017 at least :tup:. Nice suggestion @LeGeNd-1 .

Hope you and everyone else has a Happy New Year too .

Thank you, enjoy the Christmas and New Year Eve

For the Mugen NSX RR, lower rear brake if the car oversteer when trail braking too deep ( rear kicks out at the later portion of braking - initial turn in ), I lowered to 5/6, should be good enough. Red Bull Ring is a good track to get used to the NSX.

I have great time last night with PS4 and a wheel, will have another session tonight as well, new year party with mates

 

[Thorin Cain]

Thank you

I'll give that BB a try 👍. I have one curiously similar, built a while back with slightly more front biased spring ratio and 4.4 final gear with a bit less power . Brakes are good at 4/6or7 for me on that one SH-SM tyres .


Edit: Think the Catalyitic Converter is missing from post, I need it to meet hp spec .

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Thank you

I'll give that BB a try 👍. I have one curiously similar, built a while back with slightly more front biased spring ratio and 4.4 final gear with a bit less power . Brakes are good at 4/6or7 for me on that one SH-SM tyres .


Edit: Think the Catalyitic Converter is missing from post, I need it to meet hp spec .

You can increase power to max, I think the car should still hold the power well, 460HP without oil change ( racing exhaust ), so it should hit 500HP with oil change. Mix tire SH/SM if needed.

Thanks for the heads up, I edited the post ( added catalytic converter sports ). 👍

 

[GT6champNK_69]

Happy New Year @Ridox2JZGTE . Nice build of Aston Martin One 77, and NSX.👍.
Hope you and everyone is having a good time with family and friends. Cheers

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Thank you for the New Year present Ridox I will give it a try later for sure. What are your thoughts on installing the flat floor upgrade? It's just a shame that we can't add front downforce with aero kits to replicate the real car. IMO flat floor is too OP because it gives too much grip and kills top speed in anything but the tightest tracks, but it might be worth a try for the NSX.

Tried your Aston too by the way. Excellent job as usual. Comfort Mediums is more than adequate for this car. PD certainly gave this car really good chassis codes lol. Personally I like the personal LSD than the factory one. The only thing I don't like is brake balance. Rears lock up too easily with ABS off so I dropped it to 5/4. Do you actually tune your cars with ABS on/off? Because I noticed almost every tune the values for BB are the same for both ABS on and off, which shouldn't be the case. Since I always drive with ABS off I usually need to drop the values by 1-2 and make it more front biased.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Hey my friend, glad to see you are going strong...Happy New Years and thanks for being a friend. Miss your generosity and the memories of GT5.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Happy New Year @Ridox2JZGTE . Nice build of Aston Martin One 77, and NSX.👍.
Hope you and everyone is having a good time with family and friends. Cheers

You too mate

Thank you for the New Year present Ridox I will give it a try later for sure. What are your thoughts on installing the flat floor upgrade? It's just a shame that we can't add front downforce with aero kits to replicate the real car. IMO flat floor is too OP because it gives too much grip and kills top speed in anything but the tightest tracks, but it might be worth a try for the NSX.

Tried your Aston too by the way. Excellent job as usual. Comfort Mediums is more than adequate for this car. PD certainly gave this car really good chassis codes lol. Personally I like the personal LSD than the factory one. The only thing I don't like is brake balance. Rears lock up too easily with ABS off so I dropped it to 5/4. Do you actually tune your cars with ABS on/off? Because I noticed almost every tune the values for BB are the same for both ABS on and off, which shouldn't be the case. Since I always drive with ABS off I usually need to drop the values by 1-2 and make it more front biased.

Flat floor adds downforce on both ends of the car, though the emphasis is still on the rear. It kills top speed but at the same time makes the car have more realistic top speed and acceleration above 200kmh. The increased grip is a bit too much IMO, even on lower speed ( less than 100kmh ), but you can slightly negate that by lowering the tire compound ( for example : try flat floor on the NSX with CM tire ). I think with the flat floor on the NSX, it may kill some of the unique characteristics of the build - less exciting/dull.

For the One-77, the car chassis code has built-in aero ( hidden from tuning screen ), it reflected the real car underbody which is smooth all carbon fibre panel. If you are curious, try to get the car catch air, take a picture of the car underbody, you'll be surprised It has flat floor preinstalled

I always drive without ABS, the personal BB is what I used on the build The ABS value is a shot in dark most of the time, my own prediction, sorry For instance on the One-77 I used the same as I thought the grip level would allow it, while on the NSX I suggested lower BB at 3/4. Different wheel/pedal gives different ideal BB, so it's a starting point, most of the time you have to adjust the BB to suit your preferences.

One thing that often bugs me, I could use higher rear brake without ABS on my DS2 controller, but on a wheel, people prefer lower rear brake, not sure what makes the DS2 different, or it maybe just different way of braking.

Hey my friend, glad to see you are going strong...Happy New Years and thanks for being a friend. Miss your generosity and the memories of GT5.

Thank you mate GT5 hybrid days, yeah, that brings back sweet memories of cool cars and awesome community of sharing

Hope everyone who visit here have a nice new year holiday with family and friends

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I'm sharing this information about Porsche 991 GT3 Cup, thought that it may be useful for some who have AC. I used this for LFS 991 GT3 Cup mod, and it works well on LFS.
@LeGeNd-1 , @ChauMing803 , @azidahaka , @gt6champnk69 , @ALB123 and some others who have AC may find this useful for the Porsche 991 GT3 Cup car


Performance setup

Minimum Weight 1225kg, 1305kg with driver and residual fuel.

Fuel Tank Cap : 100 liters (26.4 gal)
Fuel Load 50 liters (13.2 gal)
Fuel at least 98 RON ( engine power rating based on this 98 RON SuperPlus Unleaded )
The ethanol content may not exceed 26 % (E26).
Max Engine Speed 8500RPM

Tires Slick

Air pressure
Front 1.85 bar (26.8 psi)
Rear 1.9 bar (27.6 psi)

Height
Front 78 mm (3,07“)
Rear 100 mm (3.93“)
Minimum ground clearance F 78mm, R 100mm.

Anti-roll bar pos. ( 7 position possible, 15 degree each pos from 0-90 degree for both left and right-double blade type, asymmetric adjustment possible, giving distinct behavior on left/right turns )
Front axle 3 = Rate with both side on same position/overall = 19N/mm
Rear axle 6 = Rate with both side on same position/overall = 48N/mm

Camber
Front 4°50
Rear 4°

Toe
Front -5‘
Rear 17‘

Brake balance Cyl.
front 17.8 mm
Rear 17.8 mm
Balance Beam Display F/R in Bar = 50/55



Spring H&R ( Assembly with integrated bump stop, non adjustable Sachs damper )
Front main 240-60-120 helper 75/60-43
Rear main 260-60-130 helper 80/60-60

Gearbox type G91/72
Design sequential
Number of forward gears 6
1 3.154
2 2.353
3 1.895
4 1.526
5 1.250
6 1.029
R 2.313
Final 3.789 ( Constant 2.412 + Bevel/Crown Gear 1.571 )

LSD 40/60
12 Friction Discs
Ramp Angle Drive 52° = 33-43%
Ramp Angle Coast 30° = 55-65%
Preload/Initial Torque = 100Nm

Wheel base Left 2,463 mm (8’1“) Right 2,463 mm
(8’1“)
Overhang Front 1,043 mm (3’5“) Rear 1,045 mm
(3’5“)
Vehicle width Front 1,848 mm (6’1“) Rear 1,862 mm
(6’1“)

Wing
Depth 296 mm (11.65“) Width 1,802 mm (5’11“) Height 1,228 mm (4’)
Position P6 out of 9 possible position.

Tires (Slick)
Front 27/65-18 S8H
Rear 31/71-18 S8G


Wheel alignment
Precise wheel alignment is essential for achieving the optimum performance.
Porsche Motorsport recommends these steps below

The conditions while driving have to be produced as far as possible under static conditions.
The following measures have proven to be extremely helpful :
• Place driver’s compensation weight on the driver’s seat
• Set air pressure to 2.0 bar (29 psi)
• Fill the tank with 50 % of the fuel quantity necessary for the race/practice

The following work order is highly recommended when performing a complete alignment:
1. Unhook the anti-roll bars
2. Preset vehicle height
3. Rear axle: set the camber first, then the toe
4. Front axle: set the camber first, then the toe
5. Set vehicle height and wheel loads
6. Wheel loads are set by changing the vehicle height; you should try to reach the
lowest possible wheel load deviation per axle (left to right / cross weight)
7. Hook up the anti-roll bars without tension

For ride height measurement/setup, the vehicle must be on a flat surface.


Trivia :
The speed area of ICD ( PI Cosworth ) rev/shift light LED is divided into three sections:
• Green from 1,500 to 7,000 rpm
• Yellow from 7,000 to 8,500 rpm
• Red from 8,500 to 10,000 rpm

The left and right top most LED light besides the main ICD screen functions as front wheel lock indicator, a potential lock up will be displayed as flashing LED light. Left LED for left wheel and right LED for right wheel.

Enjoy

 

[OdeFinn]

991 and 996 aren't so far apart from each other, so I know what happens when starting ps3 today.
Thanks @Ridox2JZGTE.

 

[killerjimbag]

Nice start to 2017.Different car in AC. You should at least give credit to ://www.manualslib.com/manual/1063512/Porsche-2015-911-Gt3-Cup.html#manual

 

[OdeFinn]

I'm sharing this information about Porsche 991 GT3 Cup, thought that it may be useful for some who have AC. I used this for LFS 991 GT3 Cup mod, and it works well on LFS.
@LeGeNd-1 , @ChauMing803 , @azidahaka , @gt6champnk69 , @ALB123 and some others who have AC may find this useful for the Porsche 991 GT3 Cup car


Performance setup

Minimum Weight 1225kg, 1305kg with driver and residual fuel.

Fuel Tank Cap : 100 liters (26.4 gal)
Fuel Load 50 liters (13.2 gal)
Fuel at least 98 RON ( engine power rating based on this 98 RON SuperPlus Unleaded )
The ethanol content may not exceed 26 % (E26).
Max Engine Speed 8500RPM

Tires Slick

Air pressure
Front 1.85 bar (26.8 psi)
Rear 1.9 bar (27.6 psi)

Height
Front 78 mm (3,07“)
Rear 100 mm (3.93“)
Minimum ground clearance F 78mm, R 100mm.

Anti-roll bar pos. ( 7 position possible, 15 degree each pos from 0-90 degree for both left and right-double blade type, asymmetric adjustment possible, giving distinct behavior on left/right turns )
Front axle 3 = Rate with both side on same position/overall = 19N/mm
Rear axle 6 = Rate with both side on same position/overall = 48N/mm

Camber
Front 4°50
Rear 4°

Toe
Front -5‘
Rear 17‘

Brake balance Cyl.
front 17.8 mm
Rear 17.8 mm
Balance Beam Display F/R in Bar = 50/55



Spring H&R ( Assembly with integrated bump stop, non adjustable Sachs damper )
Front main 240-60-120 helper 75/60-43
Rear main 260-60-130 helper 80/60-60

Gearbox type G91/72
Design sequential
Number of forward gears 6
1 3.154
2 2.353
3 1.895
4 1.526
5 1.250
6 1.029
R 2.313
Final 3.789 ( Constant 2.412 + Bevel/Crown Gear 1.571 )

LSD 40/60
12 Friction Discs
Ramp Angle Drive 52° = 33-43%
Ramp Angle Coast 30° = 55-65%
Preload/Initial Torque = 100Nm

Wheel base Left 2,463 mm (8’1“) Right 2,463 mm
(8’1“)
Overhang Front 1,043 mm (3’5“) Rear 1,045 mm
(3’5“)
Vehicle width Front 1,848 mm (6’1“) Rear 1,862 mm
(6’1“)

Wing
Depth 296 mm (11.65“) Width 1,802 mm (5’11“) Height 1,228 mm (4’)
Position P6 out of 9 possible position.

Tires (Slick)
Front 27/65-18 S8H
Rear 31/71-18 S8G


Wheel alignment
Precise wheel alignment is essential for achieving the optimum performance.
Porsche Motorsport recommends these steps below

The conditions while driving have to be produced as far as possible under static conditions.
The following measures have proven to be extremely helpful :
• Place driver’s compensation weight on the driver’s seat
• Set air pressure to 2.0 bar (29 psi)
• Fill the tank with 50 % of the fuel quantity necessary for the race/practice

The following work order is highly recommended when performing a complete alignment:
1. Unhook the anti-roll bars
2. Preset vehicle height
3. Rear axle: set the camber first, then the toe
4. Front axle: set the camber first, then the toe
5. Set vehicle height and wheel loads
6. Wheel loads are set by changing the vehicle height; you should try to reach the
lowest possible wheel load deviation per axle (left to right / cross weight)
7. Hook up the anti-roll bars without tension

For ride height measurement/setup, the vehicle must be on a flat surface.


Trivia :
The speed area of ICD ( PI Cosworth ) rev/shift light LED is divided into three sections:
• Green from 1,500 to 7,000 rpm
• Yellow from 7,000 to 8,500 rpm
• Red from 8,500 to 10,000 rpm

The left and right top most LED light besides the main ICD screen functions as front wheel lock indicator, a potential lock up will be displayed as flashing LED light. Left LED for left wheel and right LED for right wheel.

Enjoy

Quick implementation inside spoiler, how GT6 handles toe on front along camber is making values look weird, and about rear.. Well I'm believing at it's used as per side value, I might be wrong on that, if it's total value then.. Well this works either way, but using as total it's better, per side it's really quick reacting on turns.

Editing ended, after few mistakes.. pretty nice packet to drive.

Spoiler: Setup implementation on 996..

Porsche 911/991 Cup Car setup - on RUF RGT 911/996
535pp​

Tuned for version 1.2x
NO Oil change
NO Body Rigidity Installed - editing later changes for body rigidity version
Suspension (Full Custom) - Sports Soft - representing slick race tires
Ride Height (mm): 78 / 100
Spring Rate (kgf/mm): 8.72 / 10.76 (=85.5N/mm / 105.5N/mm, instead of 240N/mm / 260N/mm due limit of GT6 spring rate, compensated on higher dampers and ARB's)
Dampers (Compression): 9 / 9
Dampers (Extension): 8 / 8 (lower than compression, simulating helper springs capability to extend quicker)
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 / 7 (one click higher than specs, compensating softer spring rate)
Camber Angle (-): 4.5 / 4.0
Toe Angle: -0.25 / +0.17 (Front 20:1 because no rigidly makes effective toe -0.045, rear as specs, rear in GT6.. Is it total or per side? +0.34 there works nice, makes car more stable.. Don't know what to use for authenticity..)
Brake Balance Controller
Racing Brakes (really heavy power ) - forget to paint on picture, choose nicest, prefer matte colors.
Brake Balance: 6 / 7 (slightly rear bias, as specs, driver should check his personal bias, persoonat like 9/10 std brakes noABS use)

Drivetrain
LSD 8/33/52 - initial from 7 to 10, driver choice
Dual Clutch - (should use triple as real, personally triple and 8 unit on 78/100 height is just great)

Power for 460BHP/465Nm/535pp
Limiter - 93.1%
Engine Stage 2
Sports Computer Installed
Racing Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Intake Tuning
Revs will limit on 8500rpm, power is just googled, but not verified..


Gearbox - 260kmh with power parts and 3.789 final
__________
#1___3.154
#2___2.353
#3___1.895
#4___1.526
#5___1.250
#6___1.029
__________
Final__3.789

Body weight 1235kg (41:59 balance) not accurate, no infos, but lucky close shot WD - painted with Grand Prix White

Stage 2 Weight Reduction
Carbon Bonnet Body Colour
Ballast 30kg @+47
Ballast amount and position are just thrown in without better testing.


Wheels - stock size (18") RAYS 57Xtreme (used for two reasons, look and capability to handle high camber) - painted with Sterling Silver Metallic


Notes: use triple clutch and LSD initial 8 and +0.17 rear toe. Standard Brakes 9/10 for noABS use.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

You too mate
Flat floor adds downforce on both ends of the car, though the emphasis is still on the rear. It kills top speed but at the same time makes the car have more realistic top speed and acceleration above 200kmh. The increased grip is a bit too much IMO, even on lower speed ( less than 100kmh ), but you can slightly negate that by lowering the tire compound ( for example : try flat floor on the NSX with CM tire ). I think with the flat floor on the NSX, it may kill some of the unique characteristics of the build - less exciting/dull.

For the One-77, the car chassis code has built-in aero ( hidden from tuning screen ), it reflected the real car underbody which is smooth all carbon fibre panel. If you are curious, try to get the car catch air, take a picture of the car underbody, you'll be surprised It has flat floor preinstalled

I always drive without ABS, the personal BB is what I used on the build The ABS value is a shot in dark most of the time, my own prediction, sorry For instance on the One-77 I used the same as I thought the grip level would allow it, while on the NSX I suggested lower BB at 3/4. Different wheel/pedal gives different ideal BB, so it's a starting point, most of the time you have to adjust the BB to suit your preferences.

One thing that often bugs me, I could use higher rear brake without ABS on my DS2 controller, but on a wheel, people prefer lower rear brake, not sure what makes the DS2 different, or it maybe just different way of braking.

Yeah I agree flat floor kills any handling traits with the original car. I did try installing it (and removing the rear wing). On CS tyres it is still quite lively, but too easy to drive now. So I removed it and put the wing back on. Also used the higher front extension for better stability (this car really needs it lol). Apart from that I also increased the power to 484 HP which still works great with the suspension setup. I've built your DK NSX with this car previously too and I'm surprised how well the suspension setup copes with only little changes 👍

Another thing is I find the weight a bit conservative. The idea is to make a road going GT500 but Mugen isn't constrained by regulations, so they should be free to make the car as light as possible unlike the actual race car which is ballasted (NSX got 50kg more ballast due to being mid engined IIRC). Another similarly crazy NSX by Spoon managed to get the weight down to <1000kg (http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/04/car_feature_gt_gt_spoon_nsx_r/). May I suggest making an unrestricted tune with max power & min weight?

Interesting about the One-77. I wonder how many other cars have hidden aero that don't show up in tuning screen. Some cars like the Enzo and FXX for example have very low shown aero values, surely they should have more downforce than that?

Mmm yeah I think controller input definitely plays a part. Controller steering input is dampened, and braking is stabilised. I remember when I first switched from controller to wheel in GT5P the car felt a lot more free and moves around a lot more under braking. As a general rule, for ABS off you want to reduce values by 1 front and rear, and then reduce rear 1-2 values below front. So if 5/6 is optimum with ABS, wheel ABS off setting would be around 4/3 or 4/2.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Yeah I agree flat floor kills any handling traits with the original car. I did try installing it (and removing the rear wing). On CS tyres it is still quite lively, but too easy to drive now. So I removed it and put the wing back on. Also used the higher front extension for better stability (this car really needs it lol). Apart from that I also increased the power to 484 HP which still works great with the suspension setup. I've built your DK NSX with this car previously too and I'm surprised how well the suspension setup copes with only little changes 👍

Another thing is I find the weight a bit conservative. The idea is to make a road going GT500 but Mugen isn't constrained by regulations, so they should be free to make the car as light as possible unlike the actual race car which is ballasted (NSX got 50kg more ballast due to being mid engined IIRC). Another similarly crazy NSX by Spoon managed to get the weight down to <1000kg (http://www.speedhunters.com/2011/04/car_feature_gt_gt_spoon_nsx_r/). May I suggest making an unrestricted tune with max power & min weight?

Interesting about the One-77. I wonder how many other cars have hidden aero that don't show up in tuning screen. Some cars like the Enzo and FXX for example have very low shown aero values, surely they should have more downforce than that?

Mmm yeah I think controller input definitely plays a part. Controller steering input is dampened, and braking is stabilised. I remember when I first switched from controller to wheel in GT5P the car felt a lot more free and moves around a lot more under braking. As a general rule, for ABS off you want to reduce values by 1 front and rear, and then reduce rear 1-2 values below front. So if 5/6 is optimum with ABS, wheel ABS off setting would be around 4/3 or 4/2.

So it only maxed at 484HP was thinking it would go to 500HP

I'll lower the weight on my next play, and see what I can do to tame it.

For cars with hidden aero, I think the NSX Concept also has it. Enzo and FXX, they may have more than shown on tuning screen, there are some other cars that also seems to have this ( Nissan GTR, Bugatti Veyron etc )

Braking without ABS on DS2 is still tricky, it's not stabilized. On the NSX for example, 5/7 BB, I can induce entry oversteer easily if not careful while trail braking ( 1st turn of Indy Road and Suzuka for example ) 5/6 BB reduce the propensity, bear in mind that GT6 brake balance is different than in GT5, 5/5 on GT6 still have a lot of front bias. GT5/6 controller steering response depend on the controller sensitivity setting ( I used +1 ), GT5/6 also has faster steering rate when countersteering than for example Enthusia ( PS2 ) which has slower steering reaction and harder to hold a drift.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Oh definitely it's still tricky with a pad (even more so because there's less range of adjustment). But there is definitely input filtering with pad and some behind-the-scenes hand holding. Trust me, ask around a couple of drivers who are good and have recently switched from pad to wheel and they will all give the same answer. The physics is more "freed" up with a wheel.

There's also the unavoidable fact that controller is better with countersteeering (you can go lock to lock quicker), while wheel is better with understeering (you can dial in less lock more precisely to avoid overloading the tyres). So naturally those who drive with a pad prefers a more oversteer setup, and those with a wheel prefers a more understeer setup (except me, because I'm crazy for oversteer ).

Another reason for you to get a wheel *nudge nudge wink wink*

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Oh definitely it's still tricky with a pad (even more so because there's less range of adjustment). But there is definitely input filtering with pad and some behind-the-scenes hand holding. Trust me, ask around a couple of drivers who are good and have recently switched from pad to wheel and they will all give the same answer. The physics is more "freed" up with a wheel.

There's also the unavoidable fact that controller is better with countersteeering (you can go lock to lock quicker), while wheel is better with understeering (you can dial in less lock more precisely to avoid overloading the tyres). So naturally those who drive with a pad prefers a more oversteer setup, and those with a wheel prefers a more understeer setup (except me, because I'm crazy for oversteer ).

Another reason for you to get a wheel *nudge nudge wink wink*

There's steering assistance for sure on controller, I agree. I just don't feel as much under braking, well depending on the cars, on the Evo IV GSR at Matterhorn Short, even on CS tire, I have to be gentle on trail braking entry to avoid overloading the front tires or over rotating Still, I'm glad that my builds often worked well on wheel.

Also, DS2 is different than DS3 in GT5 and GT6, not just input range on buttons, but the analog stick as well, the DS2 has more resistance to movement, it's better built IMO.


I look back on the old GT5 hybrid showcase thread, lots of great memories building awesome replicas and custom creations from Wangan Midnight, to F40 LM, to DeLorean with GNX engine ( Matt Farrah Tuned Ver ).

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...p-before-posting.275309/page-105#post-8740812

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...p-before-posting.275309/page-108#post-8752141 - The Gobstopper

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...thread-read-op-before-posting.275309/page-112 - McLaren F1 LM, Callaway SledgeHammer C4 ZR1
I still drive these old creation in GT5 from time to time, mostly just for fun, twin turbo 512BB and Miura never gets old, or high revving turbo NSX ( 10K+rpm )

 

[danbojte]

I'm back from UK to PS3...

I wish you all a Happy New Year and all the best!

 

[Juaddy]

R31 HOUSE Tommy Kaira M30 Single Turbo

Tuned to replicate R31 HOUSE Tommy Kaira M30 Customer Car - Single Turbo
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium​

View attachment 116318​

CAR : Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31) '87
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium

Specs
Horsepower: 260 PS / 256 HP at 6900 RPM
Torque : 211.3 ft-lb at 5400 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1345 kg - corrected kerb weight according to official Nissan data.
Ballast : 126 kg
Ballast Position : 6
Weight Distribution : 57 / 43 - corrected as in real life spec. ( 56.87 / 43.13 )
Performance Points: 428

GT AUTO
Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED ) -optional, there's no bad side effect of this, highly recommended.
Wheels : +2 Inch Up, RAYS 57Gainer in Black
Car Paint : Blue Black ( stock ) or Braemar Blue ( from Aston Martin V8 )


Tuning Parts Installed :
Semi Racing Exhaust
Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter:Sports
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1


Suspension - JIC MAGIC "Gold" R31 SPL Coilover Damper Kit - R31 base Street/Track Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 110 110
Spring Rate: 8.00 6.00
Dampers (Compression): 6 3
Dampers (Extension): 6 7
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 3
Camber Angle: 1.0 0.5 or 1.5 1.0
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.13

ALTERNATE Older Version : Suspension - JIC MAGIC "Gold" R31 SPL Coilover Damper Kit
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 110 110
Spring Rate: 8.00 6.00
Dampers (Compression): 7 8
Dampers (Extension): 6 7
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 3
Camber Angle: 0.5 0.5 ( use zero camber all around for max grip )
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.15



LSD - 1.5 way CUSCO Type RS
Initial Torque : 20
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 13



Brake Balance:
7/7 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 7/7, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/7 brake balance as starting point.

View attachment 116677​

Notes :
I research quite hard to make this replica built, based on Tommy Kaira M30 HR31 GTS-R, R31 House Tuning Company made some improvement on the car, with single turbo low mount setup, the ever famous exhaust manifold and exhaust system, running low boost, the car has 260PS. The suspension of choice by R31 House, JIC Magic "Gold", now considered very rare as it has been discontinued. LSD is from Cusco Type RS with optimized locking rate ( cam angle and number of plates ) aimed at track day and daily driving.

This replica works well on comfort soft, with nice balance and lots of potential, for track day sports medium is the ideal tire ( R comp semi slick equivalent ). I have corrected the weight distribution based on real life data on HR31 coupe and kerb weight from official Nissan data.

When tested at Tsukuba, the car managed easy 1:09s, also tested at Street of Willow and Fuji Speedway GT.

There will be another R31 HOUSE M30 replica posted soon ( a different customer car ) with even more comprehensive build - HKS twin turbo low mount, RB26 bottom end, stroked to 3.1, stiffer JIC spring set, still running low boost for durability/daily driving, pushing 400PS with potential for 500+PS

ENJOY

UPDATE : Added primary suspension setup with revised damper and R31 Street alignment, the older setup marked as alternate. Corrected ballast position to reflect the weight distribution. Traction issue on lower gear should be minimized.

Thank you so much ! Ever since I first bought the r31 I couldn't figure out a proper tune for it but I ran with yours with alternative suspension setup and I am just blown away with how nice it feels.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Thank you so much ! Ever since I first bought the r31 I couldn't figure out a proper tune for it but I ran with yours with alternative suspension setup and I am just blown away with how nice it feels.

You're welcome I have been busy, so I might play/post new cars this weekend.

 

[Dietrich]

You're welcome If you haven't, try the Countach LP400, it's pretty good on 500PP.

The Countach is faster. Break the time easily. But I wanted to keep the Miiura in the leaderboard highligths so tried again and shaved about 1 second. 2:18.518 currently. Pretty good for a vintage replca against modern projects.👍👍👍

 

[GT6champNK_69]

You're back with a Paul Walker avatar image again Ridox, nice:tup:.

How's things going were you are, cheers friend tuner. If you are bored try my latest replica tune out, it's a Spoon!....

 

[Thorin Cain]

Nissan BNR34 Skyline GTR VSpec Gr N LM Mag / Nur '02
Tsukuba Best Motoring Lap Record
Tuned to replicate R34 GTR Vspec
Comfort Soft​

View attachment 365530
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CAR : Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec II Nur (R34) '02
Tire : Comfort Soft

Specs 350HP Nur RB26DETT Base Dyno Power
Horsepower: 350 HP / 355 PS at 6400 RPM
Torque: 370.5 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 97.3%
Weight: 1560 kg
Ballast : 172 kg
Ballast Position : -29
Weight Distribution : 57 / 43 - used real life 57 / 43
Performance Points: 479

Specs N1 RB26DETT Dyno Power
Horsepower: 345 HP / 350 PS at 7500 RPM
Torque: 356.7 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 99.7%
Weight: 1560 kg
Ballast : 172 kg
Ballast Position : -29
Weight Distribution : 57 / 43 - used real life 57 / 43
Performance Points: 476

Specs GT6 Stock
Horsepower: 336 HP / 341 PS at 7500 RPM
Torque: 346.3 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1560 kg
Ballast : 172 kg
Ballast Position : -29
Weight Distribution : 57 / 43 - used real life 57 / 43
Performance Points: 472


GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Wheels : Standard Size Stock or RAYS TE37SL in White
Car Paint : Cyberia Blue, Champion Blue, Bay Side Blue from R34 GTR '99 or Gran Turismo Blau


Tuning Parts Installed :
Intake Tuning -ONLY FOR 350HP
Isometric Exhaust Manifold -ONLY FOR 345HP
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1


Suspension - Nissan OEM Springs/Damper
Base Street/Track Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 130 130
Spring Rate: 4.07 5.09
Dampers (Compression): 4 3
Dampers (Extension): 6 5
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 2
Camber Angle: 0.8 1.2 ( Camber range Front 0.8 +- 0.75, Rear 1.2 +- 0.5 )
Toe Angle: 0.12 0.25 ( Toe In Front Range 0.12 +- 0.06, Toe In Rear 0.25, Range 0.00 to Max 0.25 )

Alternative Damper for More Neutral Handling :
Dampers (Compression): 4 3
Dampers (Extension): 2 6

Lower front extension for better turn in/steering response, and rear extension higher for more eager rear rotation. Feel free to compare both damper preset at Deep Forest or Apricot Hill Reverse.



LSD NISSAN A-LSD Base 2 Way - Base
Front
Initial Torque : 5
Acceleration Sensitivity: 5
Braking Sensitivity: 5

Rear
Initial Torque : 14
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 30


LSD NISSAN A-LSD Base 1.5 Way - Optional
Front
Initial Torque : 5
Acceleration Sensitivity: 5
Braking Sensitivity: 5

Rear
Initial Torque : 14
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 5


AERO
Rear = 30 ( MINIMUM ) or 80 ( MAX )

View attachment 365529​

Brake Balance:
5/4 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/3, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.


Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 6/5 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :


This is a simple replica build of a stock BNR34 GTR Vspec, particularly the N1 and Nur Edition R34 with the best evolution of RB26DETT engine capable of 350+PS in stock trim. The Vspec is the top of the range R34 GTR, in real life R34 GTR Vspec N1 and Nur has been dynoed with reports of around 345HP to 350HP ( 355 PS ) at the engine. I have included 3 spec, 350HP Nur, 345HP N1 ( Gr N ) and 336HP stock GT6.

The Vspec suspension spring rates of the real car 4.00 kg/mm front and 5.00 kg/mm rear. The spring rate can't be set in GT6, but can be very close, and I used the ratio as well, with damper and ARB tuned for neutral balance. The stock factory alignment has been used for the base suspension.

The car weight is 1560kg, with weight distribution using real life spec at 57/43, and both has been replicated. This should give the close to neutral balance of the real car and oversteer when pushed hard.

LSD is set in 2 way this time, with setup giving good amount of lock and low preload. An alternate LSD with 1.5 way arrangement also provided, the 1.5 way will give much more freedom in turn in under braking.

Tire base set is comfort soft with aim to set performance against real life Tsukuba lap record which is 1:04.57 driven by Keiichi Tsuchiya on a R34 GTR Vspec Nissan test car with LM mag wheel, race brake pad, some track tweaks and N1 spec engine which very likely have 350+PS.

In GT6, the time can achieved with comfort soft tire with near perfect lap just like the real life 1:04.57 lap did, perfection at the limit. While the factory stock R34 GTR Vpsec lap record is 1:05.32 driven The Professor Nakaya Akihiko, this can be achieved in GT6 with 336HP stock power.


The R34 was mainly tested and tuned at Tsukuba and Bathurst. The replay of the lap at 1:04s has been included, the lap was done with 350HP spec to match the real lap acceleration/speed/RPM at braking entry and exit. Suspension uses base set and 2 way LSD.

UPDATE : Added Nissan R34 GTR '99 Bay Side Blue paint chip for accurate/correct shade.
Added alternative damper setup for more neutral handling on entry and exit, compare with old base setup if curious.

Tested at Deep Forest, managed 1:30s lap easily and 1:37s at Apricot Hill Reverse with alternative damper, base 2 way LSD and max rear aero at 80. ENJOY the more fun R34 GTR Vspec replica

Hey there Ridox and co. Hope you are all well .

Just stopped by to say how much fun and cash there is to be had using this beauty of a beast on the recent 500pp seasonal (sorry @Pete05 ) 👍.
I had a couple of races earlier on SH tyres (BB set 3/7 ) and manage very comfortable wins....even after a couple of trips to the beach . Should be real easy for the consistent and faster drivers among you to win on CS. Super balance for such a big car and much more fun on the G27 than it was on DS3....and it was awesome then .

See you guys around .

 

[Pete05]

Hey there Ridox and co. Hope you are all well .

Just stopped by to say how much fun and cash there is to be had using this beauty of a beast on the recent 500pp seasonal (sorry @Pete05 ) 👍.
I had a couple of races earlier on SH tyres (BB set 3/7 ) and manage very comfortable wins....even after a couple of trips to the beach . Should be real easy for the consistent and faster drivers among you to win on CS. Super balance for such a big car and much more fun on the G27 than it was on DS3....and it was awesome then .

See you guys around .

I'm glad you're having fun TC. Just remember if you're going to play in the sand, take your bucket & spade
I'm ok without playing online - the therapy sessions have done wonders.

 

[Thorin Cain]

I'm glad you're having fun TC. Just remember if you're going to play in the sand, take your bucket & spade
I'm ok without playing online - the therapy sessions have done wonders.

You'd probably need more if you ever got online . Finding fun a bit more difficult truth be told. Being slaughtered by some of the resident "Aliens" in the WRS every week or so can dent the ego a little . Just as well I know a few good cures for that particular ailment 👍.