RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13
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Onboy123
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If you want, I'll send you one after I've got Dragonthing's load off of me…though it would be easier to buy one yourself…
And neat new banner, doesn't look quite right though…maybe just me…
Spec II is installing and at 40%
C'mon Internet!!!Edit: It's DONE!!!
One new (or re-implemented) feature I noticed is the tyre wear option has now returned to the practice menu.
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I love you brah.
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D'awwww sweet...and I was considering playing around with the new N24 thing. If it's no good, I'll just park it infront of Onboy and Roj in there tools of destruction and buy that Nismo Z GT500 I've been wanting...
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Better you than me.
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Do you think anyone will notice if just use it for destruction and upload it's stock settings?
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Just get Roj and RJ to do it. I have something more constructive to do on GT5 than destroy a crap semi-ricer which, despite being lightened for racing, still weighs more than its dad the R34. As for the Z? If I feel nice, I'd buy it and send it to you for that Nismo S-tune you'd exchange for your Mines.
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I only have the Nismo R and Z-tunes...it's the S-tune I want
the Z-tune scares me though...
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I only have the Nismo R and Z-tunes...it's the S-tune I want
Well I'd take the R-tune, but the trouble is that I have both already hmm right then let's just say you'll owe me 600k and I throw the Nismo Z into the trade if you want 👍
And Andre, that 'something constructive', I meant literally. As in I am 'constructing' something in GT5. It probably won't be as good as C-ZETA and others, but hopefully, it should be good enough to live up to expectations.
No mate, it ain't no Fanfic either.
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@Dragonthing hope that car I sent you earlier was one of the ones you were looking for.
If there are any standards people are looking for let me know and I'll see if I have one I can send. Won't guarantee they will be the lowest mileage but if I have them to send they will be stock. Would just as soon give a car away as sell it to make room in my main accounts garage. For example I just sold off several Focus RS '02 with higher mileage. Could have given one with 11,000 miles away instead of selling it. Also sold off a couple of Option Zs with just over a 1,000 miles.
If there are any standards people are looking for let me know and I'll see if I have one I can send. Won't guarantee they will be the lowest mileage but if I have them to send they will be stock. Would just as soon give a car away as sell it to make room in my main accounts garage. For example I just sold off several Focus RS '02 with higher mileage. Could have given one with 11,000 miles away instead of selling it. Also sold off a couple of Option Zs with just over a 1,000 miles.
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XDesperado67@Dragonthing hope that car I sent you earlier was one of the ones you were looking for.
If there are any standards people are looking for let me know and I'll see if I have one I can send. Won't guarantee they will be the lowest mileage but if I have them to send they will be stock. Would just as soon give a car away as sell it to make room in my main accounts garage. For example I just sold off several Focus RS '02 with higher mileage. Could have given one with 11,000 miles away instead of selling it. Also sold off a couple of Option Zs with just over a 1,000 miles.
Ooh awesome, thank you!
I shall have a looksee what it is shortly...doesn't matter whether I need it or not, you're still a sweetie for sending it 
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After an absence that feels eternal, I managed to play a bit over the last couple of days again, and with quite some Seasonals unfinished, it was time to give them, and some of your cars a go. The one I was feeling curious about was the NR-A cup, so I felt your MX-5 SC would be a natural candidate. To ensure the cards were not stacked to strongly in my favour, I used the power limiter to get it to somewhere around 155hp, so as to be ever so slightly above the other 11 contenders in PP, with the better tyres (SS), though.
While this is not strictly fair to the car, as it has much less power to play with than you intended, I still feel the results are interesting, and in the second part I will add comments on how the 100% setting changes things.
So, where do I start? I tried it on Tsukuba, Autumn Ring Mini, Trial Mountain, CSR5, Eifel (Kart) and at GVS (East). It is not a twitchy car and in that sense it should not overwhelm any novice. Getting the rear to play (this is now specific to the power reduced setting) generally involves either grass, or a pretty hamfisted yanking at the wheel at higher speeds, while releasing the gas at the same time. And even if you do, keeping everything under control is not too difficult - i.e. sweaty palms are unlikely to be involved.
While this makes it interesting for a beginner car, two other characteristics spoil it somewhat. The first is that you better not miss your braking zones. The car is namely quite sensitive to those and if you do find yourself braking too late, a fairly terminal understeer is the result. In which case you actually hope for some grass, or the rear letting go, so that you get the car pointing back at the track, and not at a wall.
The second issue is connected - namely if you turn in too late - you will equally experience quite pronounced understeer. At higher speeds you can lift and unbalance the car with a yank at the wheel, in which case the desired line can be somehow kept but drive slower when this occurs and there is remarkably few options.
In this setting the car is very much like a product of an earlier generation - the best is to be achieved by being fairly concentrated, braking early, using the fair grip out of corners but applying throttle only once those skinny fronts have decided that they are in control. It is a satisfying experience when you get a lap right but it certainly isn't a perpetual grin inducing machine.
In order to give some fairness to the review, I returned the car to the power levels as intended (and tuned for), before pronouncing a verdict. Some elements, such as the braking points and late turn in understeer remain but now the car offers more options. The rear, while hardly twitchy or nervous, can be brought into play when you need it, and it helps in correcting lines dramatically. It should still not badly task the skills of a novice to catch, so it is probably an easier car to drive fast for someone without fine control.
The key to success with the full power version is to some extent still the clinical, error free approach, or alternatively a constant throttle managed steering input. This definitely makes the car more fun but a sharp instrument it is not (in my humble opinion) - certainly nothing to worry your NSX, Esprit or similar for driver satisfaction (let alone speed - but that comparison would now truly be unfair).
In the end, it is a solid MX-5, with most of the donor car's spirit left intact - it is friendly, the limits are low but so is the difficutly in dealing with the car when they are breached, and in the full power version it has a playful character.
Still, I did not find it to be amongst the most entertaining of your tunes but maybe it was Spec 2 to blame
I do think that you have a gap in the line-up, which could be nicely filled with a sharp handling but low powered MX-5 (something to really enjoy those NR-A seasonals in)
While this is not strictly fair to the car, as it has much less power to play with than you intended, I still feel the results are interesting, and in the second part I will add comments on how the 100% setting changes things.
So, where do I start? I tried it on Tsukuba, Autumn Ring Mini, Trial Mountain, CSR5, Eifel (Kart) and at GVS (East). It is not a twitchy car and in that sense it should not overwhelm any novice. Getting the rear to play (this is now specific to the power reduced setting) generally involves either grass, or a pretty hamfisted yanking at the wheel at higher speeds, while releasing the gas at the same time. And even if you do, keeping everything under control is not too difficult - i.e. sweaty palms are unlikely to be involved.
While this makes it interesting for a beginner car, two other characteristics spoil it somewhat. The first is that you better not miss your braking zones. The car is namely quite sensitive to those and if you do find yourself braking too late, a fairly terminal understeer is the result. In which case you actually hope for some grass, or the rear letting go, so that you get the car pointing back at the track, and not at a wall.
The second issue is connected - namely if you turn in too late - you will equally experience quite pronounced understeer. At higher speeds you can lift and unbalance the car with a yank at the wheel, in which case the desired line can be somehow kept but drive slower when this occurs and there is remarkably few options.
In this setting the car is very much like a product of an earlier generation - the best is to be achieved by being fairly concentrated, braking early, using the fair grip out of corners but applying throttle only once those skinny fronts have decided that they are in control. It is a satisfying experience when you get a lap right but it certainly isn't a perpetual grin inducing machine.
In order to give some fairness to the review, I returned the car to the power levels as intended (and tuned for), before pronouncing a verdict. Some elements, such as the braking points and late turn in understeer remain but now the car offers more options. The rear, while hardly twitchy or nervous, can be brought into play when you need it, and it helps in correcting lines dramatically. It should still not badly task the skills of a novice to catch, so it is probably an easier car to drive fast for someone without fine control.
The key to success with the full power version is to some extent still the clinical, error free approach, or alternatively a constant throttle managed steering input. This definitely makes the car more fun but a sharp instrument it is not (in my humble opinion) - certainly nothing to worry your NSX, Esprit or similar for driver satisfaction (let alone speed - but that comparison would now truly be unfair).
In the end, it is a solid MX-5, with most of the donor car's spirit left intact - it is friendly, the limits are low but so is the difficutly in dealing with the car when they are breached, and in the full power version it has a playful character.
Still, I did not find it to be amongst the most entertaining of your tunes but maybe it was Spec 2 to blame
I do think that you have a gap in the line-up, which could be nicely filled with a sharp handling but low powered MX-5 (something to really enjoy those NR-A seasonals in) 
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Well hello there stranger!
Thanks for the review! It's been a while since I read one of yours. I think the last time I did, it won you 11 months of premium if I remember right. 
Yeah the MX-5 SC has yet to revisit the garage after Spec II. I've not even driven it yet since the update so there's not much I can really say apart from that I will definately take your feedback into account when I finally bring it up to Spec II... spec.
Although some things seem to have definately carried over. The spirit of the original car, the supercharger giving it enough power to power out of bad situations and the beginner-friendliness. 👍 Anyway yeah, a lower powered MX-5 may just appear soon after the SC gets its re-tune for Spec II. Especially with the DLC bringing a racing modified MX-5 to give everyone a bite on the bum.
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The next one I tried was the 512BB in the Supercar Nostalgia series. Having easily mastered the Rome event in The Alfa TZ2 (I hope we get more cars like this one in GT5 some day) and the next event in a RM Camaro (had to get that power down to almost 50% to compete but no problems winning), I wanted to try the BB for Suzuka. Those rears did not quite look bicycle skinny (and I do manage an NSX adequately well), the car kind of looked menacing in black, and at PP492 it was bang in the middle of the opponents and way under the limit set.
What a fabulously entertaining car it turned out to be! It's hardly the most tied down, so it will be rotating pretty much all the time, even when you'd rather it went straight. It was the first time I remember the rear breaking loose on accelerating into 200R and I am sure I had it sideways pretty much everywhere on the track over the course of 5 laps. This did make it difficult to post consistent lap times but what enormous fun! The car demands some concentration, given that it constantly moves and your throttle modulation better have some more finesse than a digital on / off (for best results, anyway). Having said that, it is not a vicious machine, either - i.e. the many unplanned slides and drifts are generally quite easy to catch, even at speeds above 200kmh (between 130R and Casio, for instance). It has fantastic throttle adjustability and it is about as benign as an MR2 at the same time. The engine noise is glorious, too.
Understeer, if it exists at all, can be quelled either by a slight lift or a harder throttle application and on a smooth track the car is really a gem.
I did the heroic thing (at least for a driver like myself) next and tried in on the Nordschleiffe. Here a much better control than mine is essential, if you want to keep it on track, a wheel / pedal combo may help, too. The car is just as playful but is generally moved off course with every bump, riding kerbs being a recipe for an off almost every time.
Still, maybe with some practice (or slightly softer suspension settings)?
In any case, possibly the most enjoyable cars from your stable, if perhaps not the fastest PP wise. If you like your life sideways, definitely the one to go for.
What a fabulously entertaining car it turned out to be! It's hardly the most tied down, so it will be rotating pretty much all the time, even when you'd rather it went straight. It was the first time I remember the rear breaking loose on accelerating into 200R and I am sure I had it sideways pretty much everywhere on the track over the course of 5 laps. This did make it difficult to post consistent lap times but what enormous fun! The car demands some concentration, given that it constantly moves and your throttle modulation better have some more finesse than a digital on / off (for best results, anyway). Having said that, it is not a vicious machine, either - i.e. the many unplanned slides and drifts are generally quite easy to catch, even at speeds above 200kmh (between 130R and Casio, for instance). It has fantastic throttle adjustability and it is about as benign as an MR2 at the same time. The engine noise is glorious, too.
Understeer, if it exists at all, can be quelled either by a slight lift or a harder throttle application and on a smooth track the car is really a gem.
I did the heroic thing (at least for a driver like myself) next and tried in on the Nordschleiffe. Here a much better control than mine is essential, if you want to keep it on track, a wheel / pedal combo may help, too. The car is just as playful but is generally moved off course with every bump, riding kerbs being a recipe for an off almost every time.
Still, maybe with some practice (or slightly softer suspension settings)?
In any case, possibly the most enjoyable cars from your stable, if perhaps not the fastest PP wise. If you like your life sideways, definitely the one to go for.
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In any case, possibly the most enjoyable cars from your stable, if perhaps not the fastest PP wise. If you like your life sideways, definitely the one to go for.
Thanks for another review! It sounds like the 512 hasn't changed since the previous update. The 512 is a stunning driver's car I think.
The main problem I had with it was that it slid too much, but I didn't want to completely tame it. As you've found, easy-to-control sliding is much more enjoyable than a planted race car. I think it just needs some softer dampers to absorb the bumps. 👍
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On that note, too. I would love to see an FGT tune. I am thinking of getting in the FGT Racing series, and I want a tune I can trust from RKM.
Also, I am liking the updates to GT5-2.0 I can't wait for that DLC, I believe it will be really good.
Also, I am liking the updates to GT5-2.0 I can't wait for that DLC, I believe it will be really good.
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On that note, too. I would love to see an FGT tune. I am thinking of getting in the FGT Racing series, and I want a tune I can trust from RKM.
Also, I am liking the updates to GT5-2.0 I can't wait for that DLC, I believe it will be really good.
Unfortunately, neither of us have the paitence for the single seaters.
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Can't wait for the GT-R Spec V Spec II RM 
with rear wheel skirts that will be released...I hope.
with rear wheel skirts that will be released...I hope.
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^!
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Yeah I'm definately going to be tuning one after the fun I had tuning my first GT-R Spec V, even if the gearbox ruined any chance of it being competitive with the Insight. I'm glad PD shares my sense of humour when it comes to choosing cars to turn into Touring Cars.Can't wait for the GT-R Spec V Spec II RM
Nice!
But yeah, it's because with the FGT, F2007, F10, X2010 and X2011, setups only get you so far. It's driver skill that makes the biggest difference and neither me or RJ have that skill to bring the best out of a single seater. Tuning a car that you can't drive like trying to bake a cake without a bowl. You just end up with a mess.
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Try anyway? xD
