RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13
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Just wait until I post up my tune, I finished it earlier whilst doing a few races...I had to keep checking I hadn't gone on racing slicks, it felt too fast
I would reveal more, but all I can say right now is that it's loud and ultra-stable
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DragonthingJust wait until I post up my tune, I finished it earlier whilst doing a few races...I had to keep checking I hadn't gone on racing slicks, it felt too fast
I would reveal more, but all I can say right now is that it's loud and ultra-stable
Semi-Racing loud or doesn't even sound like a car Full Racing loud?
Looking forward to it!
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Full on racing loud, you'll love it when you see it...
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zoom zoom ._.
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86 Family Tree
These tunes were all done with a ds3 controller. The statements in this review are what I experienced and may differ when you drive the car. All cars were tested on Trial Mount and Top Gear Test Track.
Trial Mount- This is where I test cars, stock and tunes, I feel it has a little bit of everything that the car needs to be tested well, tight quick turns, long sweeping turns and some straights, so I brought all four cars here to be put through their paces.
Ft-86- This car is the lightest of the bunch and has the most horse power. I said earlier in another review that I did for this car, saying it was the right balance of track focused and fun driftiness, but that was before spec 2 and the update on the physics. This car after spec 2 is a bit of a handful, it’s still very very fast but I feel it’s a bit out of control on a high speed course like Trial Mount. The tail likes to kick out a bit, I don’t ever fear like I am going to go crashing into a wall, it’s just I feel now the back end likes to kick out too much.
G-string Ft-86- This car I said was pure track focused no fun about it in my earlier review of the car. Now after spec 2 it’s a bit more fun now, the back end is hard to kick out but it’s now possible to do so, when before I could not do it unless using the hand break. This car still can hit every apex without question; it does have a little bit of understeer when pushed to its limits on the sweeping high speed turns.
The gt 86- This car I feel is the right balance between the ft-86 and the G-string 86, it eats up corners like the G-string, and slides when you ask it to in a very controlled manner. I feel it’s like the ft86 before spec 2, calm and easy to drive but when you want you can turn it up to 11 and be safe. I feel it has to do with the extra weight the gt 86 has over the ft86, and surprisingly it’s faster than the ft86 because it’s easier to control.
Ft-86 II- This car is much like the gt 86 very stable and easy to drive even without the down force to keep the backend in check. Out of the 4 cars this is the slowest and it seems to understeer a bit more than the other cars in the long sweeping turns, and that might be due to the suspension having to compensate for the lack of down force.
Top Gear Test Track- I chose this because I feel it has tighter turns to deal with right after high speed sections and because I just wanted to test here I have no other reason lol.
Ft-86- All I have to say for this car is easy on the throttle … in the tight corns don’t push it to hard all you will be doing is kicking out the back end. I feel the best way to overcome this is to exit the corner in a gear above what you think you need, or just be very easy on the throttle on the way out.
G-string 86- Much more controlled then the ft-86 still eats up those corners; careful when entering the hammer head the bit of understeer might give you a DQ lap time, happened to me a few times, mostly when coming into the first part of it.
Gt-86- This car was much more stable than the ft-86 and had less understeer on the hammer head then G-string, it again it might be because of the weight it has over these two cars.
Ft-86 II- much like the gt-86 again, but a tad of understeer just like the G-string 86. Again I feel this is because of the suspension compensating for the lack of down force on the car.
Final Notes- Over all the cars are great, I would say use any one of them just be aware of their faults. If you want to look cool and drift all the corners use the ft-86, if you want a track monster to learn tracks and hit every apex use the G-string (it’s not the fastest but very stable and good for trying to learn a track). But if you want a nice balance between the two use the gt 86. I think it’s the fastest of the 4 cars, Roj and I disagree on the spoiler… ugh that 99-05 Pontiac spoiler is just nasty looking, in my opinion doesn’t fit the car at all, give it a nice lip and call it good, but that’s a whole different story. But other than that the gt 86 is great, makes you look like a movie star when you ask it to (drifting wise) but if you want to be serious and beat some guys in the same PP class as you, it will do that no questions asked. So the winner of this review is the gt- 86.
Ps. the ft 86 II tune works just fine on a spoilerless gt-86 I tried it out. Had the same bit of understeer too.
Now some pics of my 86's XD
These tunes were all done with a ds3 controller. The statements in this review are what I experienced and may differ when you drive the car. All cars were tested on Trial Mount and Top Gear Test Track.
Trial Mount- This is where I test cars, stock and tunes, I feel it has a little bit of everything that the car needs to be tested well, tight quick turns, long sweeping turns and some straights, so I brought all four cars here to be put through their paces.
Ft-86- This car is the lightest of the bunch and has the most horse power. I said earlier in another review that I did for this car, saying it was the right balance of track focused and fun driftiness, but that was before spec 2 and the update on the physics. This car after spec 2 is a bit of a handful, it’s still very very fast but I feel it’s a bit out of control on a high speed course like Trial Mount. The tail likes to kick out a bit, I don’t ever fear like I am going to go crashing into a wall, it’s just I feel now the back end likes to kick out too much.
G-string Ft-86- This car I said was pure track focused no fun about it in my earlier review of the car. Now after spec 2 it’s a bit more fun now, the back end is hard to kick out but it’s now possible to do so, when before I could not do it unless using the hand break. This car still can hit every apex without question; it does have a little bit of understeer when pushed to its limits on the sweeping high speed turns.
The gt 86- This car I feel is the right balance between the ft-86 and the G-string 86, it eats up corners like the G-string, and slides when you ask it to in a very controlled manner. I feel it’s like the ft86 before spec 2, calm and easy to drive but when you want you can turn it up to 11 and be safe. I feel it has to do with the extra weight the gt 86 has over the ft86, and surprisingly it’s faster than the ft86 because it’s easier to control.
Ft-86 II- This car is much like the gt 86 very stable and easy to drive even without the down force to keep the backend in check. Out of the 4 cars this is the slowest and it seems to understeer a bit more than the other cars in the long sweeping turns, and that might be due to the suspension having to compensate for the lack of down force.
Top Gear Test Track- I chose this because I feel it has tighter turns to deal with right after high speed sections and because I just wanted to test here I have no other reason lol.
Ft-86- All I have to say for this car is easy on the throttle … in the tight corns don’t push it to hard all you will be doing is kicking out the back end. I feel the best way to overcome this is to exit the corner in a gear above what you think you need, or just be very easy on the throttle on the way out.
G-string 86- Much more controlled then the ft-86 still eats up those corners; careful when entering the hammer head the bit of understeer might give you a DQ lap time, happened to me a few times, mostly when coming into the first part of it.
Gt-86- This car was much more stable than the ft-86 and had less understeer on the hammer head then G-string, it again it might be because of the weight it has over these two cars.
Ft-86 II- much like the gt-86 again, but a tad of understeer just like the G-string 86. Again I feel this is because of the suspension compensating for the lack of down force on the car.
Final Notes- Over all the cars are great, I would say use any one of them just be aware of their faults. If you want to look cool and drift all the corners use the ft-86, if you want a track monster to learn tracks and hit every apex use the G-string (it’s not the fastest but very stable and good for trying to learn a track). But if you want a nice balance between the two use the gt 86. I think it’s the fastest of the 4 cars, Roj and I disagree on the spoiler… ugh that 99-05 Pontiac spoiler is just nasty looking, in my opinion doesn’t fit the car at all, give it a nice lip and call it good, but that’s a whole different story. But other than that the gt 86 is great, makes you look like a movie star when you ask it to (drifting wise) but if you want to be serious and beat some guys in the same PP class as you, it will do that no questions asked. So the winner of this review is the gt- 86.
Ps. the ft 86 II tune works just fine on a spoilerless gt-86 I tried it out. Had the same bit of understeer too.
Now some pics of my 86's XD
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added you
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I'm seriously considering starting GT5 again. I have a suspicion that having A-spec to do might actually help motivate me to tune more stuff! Don't worry, I will get my Golf Turbo R tune up 
and I will keep my last save game on my USB stick incase I change my mind
and I will keep my last save game on my USB stick incase I change my mind
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Just start a secondary account.I'm seriously considering starting GT5 again. I have a suspicion that having A-spec to do might actually help motivate me to tune more stuff! Don't worry, I will get my Golf Turbo R tune up
Let's you have the joy of starting over while not having to rebuild your entire garage of cars. Plus can help you build a secondary revenue stream.👍👍
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Hey, Roj, just wanted to let you know, I <3 Juliet. The Goof Patrol Trio had a race on Trial Mountain yesterday, and with the 500PP limit and Sport soft tyre restriction, I had her (or rather she drove me to) run rings around Andre's stupid little Impreza rally car. And I also, for the first time ever, set a competitive lap time which put me in the lead! It's still mostly the car though, so…yea…
The Goof Patrol Trio had a race on Trial Mountain yesterday, and with the 500PP limit and Sport soft tyre restriction, I had her (or rather she drove me to) run rings around Andre's stupid little Impreza rally car. And I also, for the first time ever, set a competitive lap time which put me in the lead! It's still mostly the car though, so…yea…
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Well, I've decided to bring 4 cars to Trial Mountain to some testing. The AE86 (S. Shigeno), GT-86, FT86 and FT86 G Sports.
The following driving options we're used:
-ABS 1
-MT
-Everything else off.
GT86 Stock (parts installed, stock settings) : Car feels good, fast, agile on the turns, but it most important flaw is that the back isn't very stable, turning everything into a drift, controllable, but it's still drift. I didn't feel any understeer and/or oversteer (sorry if having any of those if making drift at every turn is because I'm having under/oversteer, I'm a noob to those things, all that I know understeer is when you turn the steering, but the car doesn't react, and oversteer is when the car reacts more than it should to turn of the steering wheel). I guess I found my drift car
Lap : 1:41.131
GT86 GT-Apex (parts installed, setting apllied) : An huge improvement ! Car feels way faster and agile than before, it still likes to drift, but you gotta make the back kick out, or coming too fast or by pushing the handbrake, because without help the back end sticks like glue to the asphalt. I believe I found my new Nurburgring Endurace racer.
Lap : 1:34.988
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FT-86 G Sports (parts installed, stock setting) : Good thing about is that it's fast on straights. And that's it, because the amount of under/oversteer, drifts you get is ridiculous. The car is so bad, that on the last chicane, right before the start/finish line, in one instant I was making the 1st part of it, the next one it oversteered badly, the right after I deathrolled all the start/finished straight and stopped with the roof down right where the pit ends... I was like : "WTF just happened ?!"
Still, lap : 1:37.092
FT-86 G-String (parts installed, setting apllied) : Car got better, oversteer was eliminated, acceleration and top speed we're improved, but there is quite understeer is some turns and just like the GT86, it only like to drift if you force the car to do, otherwise, it sticks, but not entirely. You gotta battle against the car to make a good lap. It beat the GT86 time, but I honestly didn't feel like it was going to beat it. The car doesn't feel as fast as it really is.
Lap : 1:34.393
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FT-86 Concept (parts installed, stock settings) : It sucks so badly! Understeer at every turn, and it likes to drift alot, and it's tough to keep it controlled. It's a loose car at all times, hit limiter way too fast in my opnion. I still don't know how I completed a lap with it without putting it in the wall. Or into a rock.
Lap : 1:36.676
FT-86 GT-Apex : (parts installed settings applied) : An nice improvement for it, feels faster, it still understeers on some corners, but it's minimal. Back end is loose in my opnion, so in some turns it kicks out and you start to drift, but it's easily controllable and you still can't get exit the corner fast.
Lap : 1:34.135
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AE86 S. Shigeno Version (parts installed, stock setting) : Understeer, little but enough to you feel the car could make the turn faster, but the understeer doesn't let it. Car feels very stable thru the turns. Nice straight speed and a good acceleration. The slowest of the 86 family, but it's a nice car.
Lap : 1:39.864
Hachi Roku SS (parts installed, setting apllied) : Less understeer than the stock car, but there's still hints of it. Handling got improved, both speed and acceleration too, but it still the slowest of all. The back still remains sticked to the asphalt like glue, and without spoiler, which surprises me.
Lap : 1:38.377
Final words : All of them feel good, each for they use. For me the perfect car is the GT86, agile, fast, no under/oversteer, feels very balanced like ryangt sayed. The others have each their flaw, but don't let them get dust. Give then some love. When I get my hands in a FT86 Concept II, I will finish my 86 tree review.
The following driving options we're used:
-ABS 1
-MT
-Everything else off.
GT86 Stock (parts installed, stock settings) : Car feels good, fast, agile on the turns, but it most important flaw is that the back isn't very stable, turning everything into a drift, controllable, but it's still drift. I didn't feel any understeer and/or oversteer (sorry if having any of those if making drift at every turn is because I'm having under/oversteer, I'm a noob to those things, all that I know understeer is when you turn the steering, but the car doesn't react, and oversteer is when the car reacts more than it should to turn of the steering wheel). I guess I found my drift car
Lap : 1:41.131
GT86 GT-Apex (parts installed, setting apllied) : An huge improvement ! Car feels way faster and agile than before, it still likes to drift, but you gotta make the back kick out, or coming too fast or by pushing the handbrake, because without help the back end sticks like glue to the asphalt. I believe I found my new Nurburgring Endurace racer.
Lap : 1:34.988
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FT-86 G Sports (parts installed, stock setting) : Good thing about is that it's fast on straights. And that's it, because the amount of under/oversteer, drifts you get is ridiculous. The car is so bad, that on the last chicane, right before the start/finish line, in one instant I was making the 1st part of it, the next one it oversteered badly, the right after I deathrolled all the start/finished straight and stopped with the roof down right where the pit ends... I was like : "WTF just happened ?!"
Still, lap : 1:37.092
FT-86 G-String (parts installed, setting apllied) : Car got better, oversteer was eliminated, acceleration and top speed we're improved, but there is quite understeer is some turns and just like the GT86, it only like to drift if you force the car to do, otherwise, it sticks, but not entirely. You gotta battle against the car to make a good lap. It beat the GT86 time, but I honestly didn't feel like it was going to beat it. The car doesn't feel as fast as it really is.
Lap : 1:34.393
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FT-86 Concept (parts installed, stock settings) : It sucks so badly! Understeer at every turn, and it likes to drift alot, and it's tough to keep it controlled. It's a loose car at all times, hit limiter way too fast in my opnion. I still don't know how I completed a lap with it without putting it in the wall. Or into a rock.
Lap : 1:36.676
FT-86 GT-Apex : (parts installed settings applied) : An nice improvement for it, feels faster, it still understeers on some corners, but it's minimal. Back end is loose in my opnion, so in some turns it kicks out and you start to drift, but it's easily controllable and you still can't get exit the corner fast.
Lap : 1:34.135
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AE86 S. Shigeno Version (parts installed, stock setting) : Understeer, little but enough to you feel the car could make the turn faster, but the understeer doesn't let it. Car feels very stable thru the turns. Nice straight speed and a good acceleration. The slowest of the 86 family, but it's a nice car.
Lap : 1:39.864
Hachi Roku SS (parts installed, setting apllied) : Less understeer than the stock car, but there's still hints of it. Handling got improved, both speed and acceleration too, but it still the slowest of all. The back still remains sticked to the asphalt like glue, and without spoiler, which surprises me.
Lap : 1:38.377
Final words : All of them feel good, each for they use. For me the perfect car is the GT86, agile, fast, no under/oversteer, feels very balanced like ryangt sayed. The others have each their flaw, but don't let them get dust. Give then some love. When I get my hands in a FT86 Concept II, I will finish my 86 tree review.
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Hey, Roj, just wanted to let you know, I <3 Juliet.
Pffft, you only got me on Deep Forest, you may have beaten me on Trial Mountain once but I kept closing the door from you, especially at the hairpin before getting the second race
*sigh* If only I didn't forget the suspension and LSD settings of Dragonthing's S2000 LM then this would have been a better match.
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Hehe your times were pretty damn close to mine give or take .200 secs i got the gstring to 1:33:8xx and that was pushing the car. i will see if i can send you the gt 86 II tomorrow my bro is home and he is being an ass so getting on the ps3 is a no go. Will see if i can send it to you tomorrow in the afternoon.
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Pffft, you only got me on Deep Forest, you may have beaten me on Trial Mountain once but I kept closing the door from you, especially at the hairpin before getting the second race
*sigh* If only I didn't forget the suspension and LSD settings of Dragonthing's S2000 LM then this would have been a better match.
Hey 2 wins is still 2 wins, regardless.
Anyway, we done with chatting? Time to announce the results for the RX7 matchup and for me to do something with all these Civic and 86 tunes.
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Hey 2 wins is still 2 wins, regardless.
Anyway, we done with chatting? Time to announce the results for the RX7 matchup and for me to do something with all these Civic and 86 tunes.
You only won because of Juliet and that I was desperate for a 500PP car.
Leave that to me. Besides, I have to do the Corvette ZR1 first...
Onboy123
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You only won because of Juliet and that I was desperate for a 500PP car.
Leave that to me. Besides, I have to do the Corvette ZR1 first...
I still won.
GTFO, I said it's back to back from the two of us, not I drive while you spin all over the place in the race then let you report back.
Ok, i'll hush.
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Holy crow. The Goof Troop have nearly prevented me from posting on Page 420!
Anyway, got stuff coming... In theory.
Anyway, got stuff coming... In theory.
