Yeah, that wasn't to prove or counter your arguments, I just took your post as base to add my own musings🙂
In my case, I play almost everyday, enough at least to complete the daily marathon, since launch (with two hiatuses due to getting burnt out by the grind) so around 630 DW. A bit more driving time on sunday inside a league (1h30-2h).
I can't even imagine spending 10+ hours on a single TT. I usually get frustrated/bored after 10 tries.
Really depends on the TT, if I like the combo and it does not frustrate me, and I see that gold may be reachable, and I have enough time/mental energy to pursue this goal, then I may spend more hours chasing it.
My method is different. I'll usually do 4-5 separate sessions, each for about 10-15 laps and then when I get in the bronze/silver range; I'll take a break the next day or two. Then a few days later I'll look at some replays of the top 100 drivers and study their driving lines and braking points/areas. And study what gears they use in MT mode, going up and down.
That is true, wouldn't it be more efficient and better to just grind all the WTC 700-900 races, even the big one on Tokyo(the 12-lap race at Tokyo East). You can get 825k by getting a CRB and not hitting any opponents in the race. Yeah now I only focus on getting a silver or bronze time and then I'm outta there for the TT challenge. Ain't worth the stress and time spent. Now the Human Comedy missions might be worth the time and effort to reap the rewards, but other than that the TT's will have to be limited for me.
I don't do the weekly TTs for the credits - at least not only for that. I do them because I enjoy the challenge. It's always been the way I enjoyed GT games - me against the track. The challenge of trying to move up the leaderboards with the guys here adds to the enjoyment for me. I have basically no interest in tuning and racing. Just not what I find fun. I've improved enough since I started doing the TTs last year that I pretty much always get golds now with a few silvers still. No bronze so far this year.
And here I am using custom races against a butchered tomahawk to get credits and also to be able to test out my cars in what I'd call a pseudo time trial environment. The only caveat is I have to slow down and watch out for the spaceship that can't drive 55 every two-four laps.
Not sure if you are refering to me with this sentence, but I do TT because I find them fun (not all of them though) or because they push me to use a combo track+car I would not otherwise use spontaneously.
yeah...you'd grind. Because the game is set up so that grinding the same race hundreds of times is by far the fastest route to being done with cars rotating in and out of availability. That's the issue. As someone who has completed the car collecting quest I can say with confidence that - for me anyway - the game is more enjoyable without having the economy to deal with. What if they did a crazy thing and equalized the payouts for all the races so that instead of 4 there was a whole bunch of races you could choose from? Or what if they made it so that you could earn relatively equal amounts of credits in whatever way you (the paying customer) want to enjoy the game? I'd love it if I could earn some decent credits just by doing time trials at the various tracks in the game - a sort of "always on" version of the weekly TTs. At minimum, they could make it so that someone such as myself who has done the menus and reached level 50 and all that and who continues to play and enjoy the game on a daily basis doesn't have to suffer the scourge of seeing 5 and 10K prizes constantly as his reward for being a committed fan! lol...
Yes, but not "basically required", as you said before.
The general idea is that the rewards depend on distance/time and "difficulty" - which sort of corresponds to how fast the cars are. There's basically five-ish levels of race "difficulty", with some overlap, and a race in the lowest tier pays less per mile/minute than one in the highest tier.
You're right, but is that different in other games?
well no not at all. But I also don't think it needs to be such an incredible chore either. There's a balancing point and I just feel GT7 leans too far in one direction than the other.
Me: Played the game for 4 digits of hours, doesnt care about legendary cars. I dont think I am part of the majority of how gamers look at GT7, especially since I usuall go for all Platinum trophies but I dont for GT7 - not because it is grindy, but because I sincerly dont want to use photomode (and still not have finished the SF license required - I cant handle that car nor do I care to practice that much until I do).
Or you have to consider it part of the fun, then it isnt as much effort because it doesnt feel that way.
Nope, not directed at you. Just a general comment on how people consider grinding the game to be boring but will spend hours and hours each week driving the same car around a track by them selves trying to eek out a tenth of a second here or there and call that fun. As if that’s not a grind.
Silver on most events - 105% of the final time - for most people (the middle of the bell curve) should take one lap. That's 1m for ~100s. Even for those who can’t make it to silver on lap one, the +110% bronze can be done entirely on Autodrive (full braking and steering assist) on lap one, for 250,000cr in the same time.
I just don't do any that I don't think will be entertaining or that gold would require too much time; I don't even bother with events I know that I can score silver any more either - I don't need the credits these days, and my time can be spent elsewhere. Every gold I've got bar a couple has been five laps tops.
