Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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Translation of Zelenskij's tweet:
RF kills wherever it can go. Today it got to 🇵🇱. This attack on collective security in the Euro-Atlantic region is an escalation. People died. My condolences to my brothers and sisters 🇵🇱! 🇺🇦 always with you. The terror of the RF must be stopped. Solidarity is our strength!
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It's probably not the best idea to simply take Zelensky's word for it. Really need to understand:
A: If this really came from Russia or Belarus
B: If it was intentional*
*Knowing Russia, this would be incredibly difficult to determine. At the same time, if this was meant to be an escalatory move or message from Russia they aren't going to just say it was an accident because that would defeat the point of the message. So we should ask Russia straight up - did you attack Poland? If the answer is no, then air defenses at the NATO perimeter should be reinforced, but the status quo should be maintained. If the answer is yes...well that's a whole other can of worms.
I don't think this warrants a big reaction...at least not yet. Russia is losing and nothing should be done to alter the balance, particularly if it starts to get other nations off the sidelines.
A: If this really came from Russia or Belarus
B: If it was intentional*
*Knowing Russia, this would be incredibly difficult to determine. At the same time, if this was meant to be an escalatory move or message from Russia they aren't going to just say it was an accident because that would defeat the point of the message. So we should ask Russia straight up - did you attack Poland? If the answer is no, then air defenses at the NATO perimeter should be reinforced, but the status quo should be maintained. If the answer is yes...well that's a whole other can of worms.
I don't think this warrants a big reaction...at least not yet. Russia is losing and nothing should be done to alter the balance, particularly if it starts to get other nations off the sidelines.
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Anyway, its RF fault. Even if it was Ukrainian C300, it should been counter act of Russian aggression against civilian infrastructure.
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Perhaps fortunately this article isn't as alarmist as the title implies and Betteridge's law still applies. It's now up to Poland to decide how it wants to react to the murder of its citizens but if RF continues to blame the victims some kind of NATO response seems inevitable to me.
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Missile hits Poland, killing two: is this the trigger for a wider European war?
This explosion in Przewodow is unlikely to trigger a wider war. But it will have repercussions for Vladimir Putin and his flailing invasion of Ukraine.
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I've seen reports of missile, and reports of missiles. Which is it?
There could be a big difference between one missile hitting (which might be due to all sorts of rogue errors) and missiles hitting which is less likely to be error.
There could be a big difference between one missile hitting (which might be due to all sorts of rogue errors) and missiles hitting which is less likely to be error.
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Poland, NATO say missile strike wasn't a Russian attack
NATO's chief and the president of Poland say there are no indications that a missile that fell on Polish farmland and killed two people was a deliberate attack.
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I'm just freeballing here, but it sort of makes sense that even if it was a Russian missile that it's likely in NATO's best interest to say it was an accident or say it was from Ukraine. As much as I want Russia to learn what a trillion dollars a year in military spending looks like, a world war is not something we need.
Even if it was Ukrainian air defense though, it's still Russia's fault since there wouldn't need to be air defense if Russia wasn't committing crimes against humanity.
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As I said, the status quo greatly favors Ukraine & NATO right now. It would be dumb to change it.Poland, NATO say missile strike wasn't a Russian attack
NATO's chief and the president of Poland say there are no indications that a missile that fell on Polish farmland and killed two people was a deliberate attack.
I'm just freeballing here, but it sort of makes sense that even if it was a Russian missile that it's likely in NATO's best interest to say it was an accident or say it was from Ukraine. As much as I want Russia to learn what a trillion dollars a year in military spending looks like, a world war is not something we need.
Even if it was Ukrainian air defense though, it's still Russia's fault since there wouldn't need to be air defense if Russia wasn't committing crimes against humanity.
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He isn't as naive, but more AA to Lviv will be cool.
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