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[Dragonistic]

Ford GTLM Spec II Test Car NFB
800PP - Power: 537PS - Torque: 526ft-lbs - Weight: 990KG

Description
Almost identical to the 750PP set up in every department accept weight, power and final gear. I gave this set up a whirl round HSR to see how it held up, 7 laps later I'm under 1:03 and I'm no HSR expert. Same deal as with all GTLMs, need to be on the throttle to avoid lift off oversteer, so only fully let off when confident or completely straight. Running R2/R3 1) reduces oversteer, 2) gives a power boost for the final drag race vital for the race win.
No more to say so simply, enjoy.
Note: Gearbox set up for use as a 4 gear car, 6th gear makes no difference, possible use for 5th slipstreaming.

Set Up
Power: -10
Weight: 85%
Tyres: R2/R3
Downforce: 20F 35R

Suspension
Ride Height: -10F -15R
Spring Rate: 5F 6R
Dampers: 3F 9R
Toe: +0.20F -0.50R
Camber: 1.5F 1.0R
Brake Balance: 7F 5R

Other
Max Turning Angle: 40
TCS: 0
ABS: 1

Transmission
1st Gear: 2.250
2nd Gear: 1.518
3rd Gear: 1.114
4th Gear: 0.880
5th Gear: 0.838
6th Gear: N/A
Final Gear: 3.266

Important Note: Drop power by 1 to get 798PP and a great grid start if you really wanna win.

Update:
Now in 4 gear set up.

 

[Dragonistic]

Updated 750PP GTLM set up. Gears and weight adjusted.
Updated 800PP GTLM into 4 gear set up similar to 750.

 

[JPS]

750 GTlm, a very good tune just got better

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

You're not competing in the Showdown, but you release a car that could compete?

 

[Dragonistic]

You're not competing in the Showdown, but you release a car that could compete?

Ardius was asking if I'd given anything a try on the track, I told him I wasn't in the showdown so I hadn't bothered, but I figured I'd give it a whirl see how I did not expecting much. Turns out the car runs great so I saw no reason not to release it as I'm trying to build up some regular users of RVT tunes, more cars = more users

 

[Dragonistic]

Another update: (seperate post so it can't be lost)

750PP GTLM best lap on Suzuka now stands at 1:55.784!!

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Another update: (seperate post so it can't be lost)

750PP GTLM best lap on Suzuka now stands at 1:55.784!!

🤬 me! That's 3sec faster than I did, I knew their appraisal of my 1'58.7 times were incorrectly placed, I couldn't possibly be fast.

 

[Dragonistic]

🤬 me! That's 3sec faster than I did, I knew their appraisal of my 1'58.7 times were incorrectly placed, I couldn't possibly be fast.

No 1:58.7 is fast, I only got 1:58.4 last night then saw your time in the other thread and thought I'd give my 4 gear set up another whirl. I still have room for improvement on that time in places but I just don't see the point doing more laps after that, it's just to fast for online racing it isn't fair on the competition at all unless someone else has a similarly fast GTLM. It was a pretty special lap for me and even though I can improve on it, it would take hours to emulate the sections I got right most likely.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

No 1:58.7 is fast, I only got 1:58.4 last night then saw your time in the other thread and thought I'd give my 4 gear set up another whirl. I still have room for improvement on that time in places but I just don't see the point doing more laps after that, it's just to fast for online racing it isn't fair on the competition at all unless someone else has a similarly fast GTLM. It was a pretty special lap for me and even though I can improve on it, it would take hours to emulate the sections I got right most likely.

Yeah, but 1'55 And by that, I mean Mine was a 4 gear setup too just so you know

 

[Dragonistic]

UPDATE: Viper 750PP set up adjusted to 5 gears.

Into the 1:57s with that new set up

 

[NLxAROSA]

Well, since you're not entering the showdown I figured I could do a short review of your GTLM.

Having tuned the GTLM several times myself, I know what the strengths and weaknesses of this car are. The basic untuned GTLM is a deadly combination of power & liftoff oversteer and pure, raw speed. At first, most people considered it an untamable beast, but it has been proven that it is very responsive to tuning. There are many ways you can go with it, as the different tunes in this very forum have shown us.

So, how does the RVT GTLM perform?

I looked at the settings first, imagining what the total package of settings would result in. Judging from the settings I imagined myself an unstable, oversteering monster, ready to bite my head off.............boy was I wrong!

The RVT GTLM is a very well done tune. The settings are very unorthodox, but they work extremely well. The cornering on this baby is simply amazing, the cornering speeds are very high, way above any tune I have seen so far. There is ofcourse the tradeoff of reduced straight line speed, but this will not matter since you will be the one coming out of each corner way ahead of the rest. I find myself pushing the car further and further while cornering, simply because I want to know how far it goes. And far it goes.

If this car would have been in the showdown it would have been a contender for sure!

I haven't tried it at Suzuka, but since it has more corners and less long straights than HSR, I can easily see where those 1'55.xxx laptimes are coming from. Again, RVT has created a tune that fits the RVT philosophy perfectly. Well done! 👍

 

[Dragonistic]

Yay me Glad you enjoyed it so much and especially glad it fits my themes exactly.

Thanks for the review 👍

 

[GTP_Tzayed]

Hey Dragon, I've been driving your GTLM again - just went sub 1'3"

I love driving this thing.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Dragon I can't thank you enough for the GT LM tune. I am consistently up there now every race.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers Grim (aka Jamie)

 

[Dragonistic]

Seems like this car is being received fantastically, glad I can offer such a vehicle to you all

 

[Pebb]

All I want to say is thanks for working on the base of one of my shots and posting it up in the first post.

 

[Dragonistic]

Added credit to you under the picture in the first post.

 

[BRracing_ProtoX]

I am gonna compare your tune to NLx. Not picking any favorites, but his tune for the showdown is top notch. Let's see yours..

 

[LinPark]

Just took my first turn at Suzuka 750PP online using your tune on the Vette and am having a blast. Hoping to work my way up to the GT LM shortly. Thanks for sharing your talents.

 

[Synwraith]

Hey man, let me also add my thanks for the GTLM tune. I tried it and was utterly shocked to be able to even complete a clean lap in that rabid monster of a car.

Having said that though, I just can't see how I can turn decent consistently clean laps using my d-pad on my sixaxis. Everytime the steering input is a little too sharp or the angle too high, I lose the back end. I can clearly see how having a wheel would improve my control over the GTLM.

I have found acouple of other tunes for the GTLM which allow me to hold the car better and consistently do clean laps, however I do not think those tunes make for as fast a car as your tune does.

I respectfully leave the pro physics GTLM to drivers with wheels.

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)

 

[osrg]

Just hotlapped the Tuned Vette.

Incredible midcorner speed........ incredible. So stable and predictable, and most importantly fast.

Thanks Dragonistic for your efforts.

 

[Dragonistic]

Just took my first turn at Suzuka 750PP online using your tune on the Vette and am having a blast. Hoping to work my way up to the GT LM shortly. Thanks for sharing your talents.

Be warned, no other car in my garage truly prepares you for the GTLM (accept maybe the NSX Type R) because I don't have many MR cars available, you just have to persist with it if you want to master it (in free run ideally).

Having said that though, I just can't see how I can turn decent consistently clean laps using my d-pad on my sixaxis. Everytime the steering input is a little too sharp or the angle too high, I lose the back end. I can clearly see how having a wheel would improve my control over the GTLM.

I respectfully leave the pro physics GTLM to drivers with wheels.

I actually use a sixaxis myself, with the stick for steering and triggers for brake/accel. It does take a fair amount of practice to master the beast but eventually you learn to use the liftoff oversteer as an advantage rather then a problem. I can see why you prefer to avoid the car though, no matter how well you think you have it, it always bites back with the slightest mishap.

Just hotlapped the Tuned Vette.

Incredible midcorner speed........ incredible. So stable and predictable, and most importantly fast.

Thanks Dragonistic for your efforts.

I'm going to be tweaking the gearing to a 5 gear set up soon for the Vette.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Everytime the steering input is a little too sharp or the angle too high, I lose the back end.

That's where throttle control comes in.

I respectfully leave the pro physics GTLM to drivers with wheels.

It's very possible to control it with Sixaxis or DS3, I do it and holden does it (not sure about Dragonistic, but I was under the impression that he's a controller driver too). It's hard at first, but once you get the hang of it, you can even drift with it. It's the combination of steering and throttle control that keeps it under control. Lack of either will leave you with an uncontrollable car.

EDIT: See above post: Dragonistic uses controller as well.

Be warned, no other car in my garage truly prepares you for the GTLM.

I don't think any car in any garage will prepare you for the GTLM right now.

 

[Synwraith]

That's where throttle control comes in.

It's very possible to control it with Sixaxis or DS3, I do it and holden does it (not sure about Dragonistic, but I was under the impression that he's a controller driver too). It's hard at first, but once you get the hang of it, you can even drift with it. It's the combination of steering and throttle control that keeps it under control. Lack of either will leave you with an uncontrollable car.

EDIT: See above post: Dragonistic uses controller as well.

In that case, I respectfully leave the Pro GTLM for the pro drivers!

Well, since you guys use sixaxis I'll have another crack tonight. It really REALLY annoys me that I can't use this car the way I want to. There hasn't been a single GT5 event that I really wanted to crack that I haven't, but I tell you 750PP S3 is winning...I've resorted back to my GTR

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)

 

[Dragonistic]

Maybe try set ups from the other garages first, mine seems to be the notably most difficult right now.

 

[Synwraith]

Maybe try set ups from the other garages first, mine seems to be the notably most difficult right now.

Yeah I took about 3 to the track, as I said, GTP_MeAgainstYou had a nice setup he posted elsewhere on the official PS3 boards which i used and felt much more in control of the car, but I felt if I could crack the handling on your tune, it would lead to faster times.

If I understood toe and camber and shocks properly I may have been able to tune it to my own preference and find a happy balance.

Please don't take my comments as criticism, your driving and the driving of people using your tune in the GTLM is solid proof of yours and their considerable talent and ability. I just thought I was way better at this than I evidently am

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)

 

[Dragonistic]

No need to worry about critism, I like to hear different points of view so I know if I'm matching my aim with a given car, and with this one I am.

It's a very difficult car to drive don't think you're bad because you struggle with it, I struggle with it every time I get in unless I spend some good time in free run with it adjusting.

 

[NLxAROSA]

It's just that this car behaves significantly different from other cars. It's a bit of trick you have to learn really.

Some rules apply to this car though, whichever tune you are using:

1. This car will oversteer violently if you fully release the throttle while it's not completely straight. (liftoff oversteer)

2. It will also oversteer violently if you apply too much throttle while it's not completely straight. (power oversteer)


So, when 1. happens, you need to gently apply the throttle back again while making sure 2. does not occur.

When 2. happens, you must gently release the throttle while making sure 1. does not occur.

Do not countersteer too much, it will start flipflopping/fishtailing. Rather have it level out, using the throttle to control where you are going.

As you see, the trick is to apply the right amount of throttle and the right amount of steering. Do not overcompensate. It's a bit like walking on a tight rope.

 

[Dragonistic]

Updated Corvette gearing into 5 gear set up.

 

[JPS]

Ford GTLM Spec II Test Car NFB
800PP - Power: 537PS - Torque: 526ft-lbs - Weight: 990KG

Description
Almost identical to the 750PP set up in every department accept weight, power and final gear. I gave this set up a whirl round HSR to see how it held up, 7 laps later I'm under 1:03 and I'm no HSR expert. Same deal as with all GTLMs, need to be on the throttle to avoid lift off oversteer, so only fully let off when confident or completely straight. Running R2/R3 1) reduces oversteer, 2) gives a power boost for the final drag race vital for the race win.
No more to say so simply, enjoy.
Note: Gearbox set up for use as a 4 gear car, 6th gear makes no difference, possible use for 5th slipstreaming.

Set Up
Power: -10
Weight: 85%
Tyres: R2/R3
Downforce: 20F 35R

Suspension
Ride Height: -10F -15R
Spring Rate: 5F 6R
Dampers: 3F 9R
Toe: +0.20F -0.50R
Camber: 1.5F 1.0R
Brake Balance: 7F 5R

Other
Max Turning Angle: 40
TCS: 0
ABS: 1

Transmission
1st Gear: 2.250
2nd Gear: 1.518
3rd Gear: 1.114
4th Gear: 0.880
5th Gear: 0.838
6th Gear: N/A
Final Gear: 3.266

Important Note: Drop power by 1 to get 798PP and a great grid start if you really wanna win.

Update:
Now in 4 gear set up.

After much pleading from certain GTP member to visit and have a go at HSR, well not much pleading more like, "you coming having a go." I took to the track and threw myself in at the deep end by using the GTlm for my first attemp(not Dragons btw), first race looks like fun, I'm good at this apart from the corners, so i decided to get and try Dragonistics tune. Second race looks like fun, I'm good at this and doing better in the corners, apart from there's a few other cars on track with me. Third/fourth/fifth race getting better.
A little secret, well not really a secret if you have raced infront/behind or hahahaa attempted to race at the side of me....I'm crap Most of the time i race with active seering and traction control turned ON, yes on, and even so i think this tune does not need it's NFB tag. You haven't raced at HSR, your new to racing, try this tune, it's speed through the corners will make up for any lack of skill on the drivers part. Now do i try to turn those aids off....not just yet i want to keep the smile on my face a little while longer