Santa question (Warning: Adult content, spoilers)

[Sage]

My parents never put any effort into making me believe it (I never got presents “From Santa”), so I never did. On the other hand, I believed in the Tooth Fairy until I was about six years old.

 

[FoolKiller]

Would you really trust Tom Hanks' judgement?

No, but I will take Chris van Allsburg's judgement.

And I'm ubersceptical about magic.

And that is where your problem lies.

We take pleasure in answering thus prominently the communication below, expressing at the same time our great gratification that its faithful author is numbered among the friends of The Sun:

I am 8 years old. Some of my little friends say there is no Santa Claus. Papa says, "If you see it in The Sun, it's so." Please tell me the truth, is there a Santa Claus?
Virginia O'Hanlon

Virginia, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a sceptical age. They do not believe except what they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours, man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus! It would be as dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The external light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies. You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if you did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

You tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived could tear apart. Only faith, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, Virginia, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding.

No Santa Claus?Thank God he lives and lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay 10 times 10,000 years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!!

 

[Raghavan]

Never beleived in him. My parents told me flat out when i was 3-4 too. In 1st grade, when the teacher told us that there was a Santa, i knew it was complete bull****. How can such a fat guy deliver presents to all the children (Christian ones anyway) in one night? How can reindeer fly? How can he carry all that crap on his sleigh? Where does he get all the money?
I never believed in that guy for a second.

 

[Silverzone]

he is real.. I caught him pooping in my fireplace.

 

[Danny]

And that is where your problem lies.

If you'd even call it a problem.

I'd gladly reserve judgement on things such as this, and maybe I'd even deny his existence altogether.

But one thing I wouldn't do is charge head on into the belief that science proves nothing.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Same for me as it was for Raghavan.

 

[FoolKiller]

If you'd even call it a problem.

I'd gladly reserve judgement on things such as this, and maybe I'd even deny his existence altogether.

But one thing I wouldn't do is charge head on into the belief that science proves nothing.

You seem to be arguing awfully hard against what I thought was an obvious joke, especially since I used a fictional children's story and 100+ year old newspaper editorial, that was later made into a made for TV movie starring Charles Bronson, as defense.

I prefer to think of Santa as the representation of the Christmas spirit where for one day we can all go out and do incredibly nice things and help people and give gifts and act the way we wished we always did.


As for Santa the man, well my brother spoiled all that for me when I was 8.

My mom still likes to play Santa though. Despite our being married she keeps asking me (26 yrs old) and my brother (30 yrs old) to stay the night Christmas Eve. She still likes to label our gifts from Santa and when I was in college she would make me go to bed before a single gift wound up under the tree or in my stocking. I would stay up until 3 AM just to make her mad.

 

[Danny]

You seem to be arguing awfully hard against what I thought was an obvious joke, especially since I used a fictional children's story and 100+ year old newspaper editorial as defense.

I have something to hide

I prefer to think of Santa as the representation of the Christmas spirit where for one day we can all go out and do incredibly nice things and help people and give gifts and act the way we wished we always did.

That's a nice idea to have.👍

 

[Kylehnat]

he is real.. I caught him pooping in my fireplace.

Then you must have been very bad:

 

[G.T]

I found out when I was 11 or so. I was up late one night, heard bags and that outside my room (then I was suspicious about him existing at all anyway). I opened my door a little, and saw lots of bags with presents in them being carried down the stairs by my Mum and Dad. I don't think I told my parents I did that until a good few months later.

 

[VIPFREAK]

Santa is real. Kids are more perceptive than adults (hence the phrase "Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings" - they see, and say, things "grown-ups" don't) and know the truth, but as they get older they begin to ignore what they know to fit in with the crowd of foolish old people.

Actually a great example of this is the Polar Express movie which is surprizingly really good.

 

[DeLoreanBrown]

Spoiler City ! If me mom finds out that ive found out , she'll have no context , ime pretty much sunk . Thanks a hole div load !!!!

 

[Danny]

Did you text me a while back?

 

[DeLoreanBrown]

Don't tell me ure looking for a present . .

 

[Vonie]

That's how I would get my kicks back in the day. By telling all the little Christian kids that Santa wasn't real.

So shoot me.

 

[Neon_SRT]

I found out in a couple of ways.

One, is the handwriting on the tags. Two, I would be looking for stuff in closets and I found a bunch of gifts instead. And third, I don't have a chimney.

 

[Andrew R]

Don't you kids no anything? If there's no chimney he has a magic key that can open any door. I bet he doesn't even make those toys, he just uses his keys to steal from K-Mart. Also with live4speed's kid eatery story, that could also explain where he gets the materials from to make these toys. If you're a jackass you get turned into a soft toy donkey.

I have a real jerk of a brother that's 5 years older than me. He ruined it for me pretty early on. There was a tree that was next to my neighbours house though and I swear at night with the light behind it it looked like Santa's sleigh though.

 

[Plague.Ghost]

I think I didn't really believe, ever. A few things sort of stuck out in my mind-

-How the hell does a man go down a chimney?
-Since when do deer fly?
-Why don't poor kids get presents?
-Why is "Santa" at all the malls?
-How do short people make 3 billion toys in 364 days?
-Why is there a price tag whited out on this?
-Why does it have a brand name and store logo on it?


So many things that were wrong with it. Plus, the fake footprints that went to random and stupid places in the house.

 

[xXSilencerXx]

I was 9 and my dad told me while we were watching "Lost in Space" in our basement. Although it didn't really hit me that hard cuz I didn't care if he existed or not I just wanted my presents and candy.

Yeah, but... Apart from all that. Their is no reason why he can't exist. You sound exactly like one of those Darwinist chaps, with all your facts and science...what did science ever prove....

Correct me if I'm wrong (Most likely), but at one time hundreds of years ago didn't an actual person named Santa exist who gave out gifts, and the 'myth' is based off that?

He's based off of St. Nicolas.

 

[Evolution.]

^ 👍

I printed out what ultrabeat posted and gave a copy to each of my relatives and friends that says Santa exists

 

[Ram-Rod]

Never have never will.

 

[Famine]

I think I didn't really believe, ever. A few things sort of stuck out in my mind-

-How the hell does a man go down a chimney?
-Since when do deer fly?
-Why don't poor kids get presents?
-Why is "Santa" at all the malls?
-How do short people make 3 billion toys in 364 days?
-Why is there a price tag whited out on this?
-Why does it have a brand name and store logo on it?


So many things that were wrong with it. Plus, the fake footprints that went to random and stupid places in the house.

How many "good" children do you know? Almost ALL children are little bastards at some point during the year. So really Santa only has to stroll around 5 or 6 houses in the morning in 24 time zones.

The rest of it is your parents feeling sorry for you because, even though you were a little tosspot throughout the year, you're still their child. So they pretend that you were good really and buy you electronic crap from the local electronic crapola shop and SAY it's from Santa.

See? Santa DOES exist. You never saw him because you were never good enough to get a visit.

 

[Danny]

I can't speak for your area, but over here our children are little darlings.

 

[Blake]

I can't speak for your area, but over here our children are little darlings.

What happened to you?

 

[G.T]

I can't speak for your area, but over here our children are little darlings.

Please, not the same over here.

 

[Omnis]

The underlined is the problem with this reasoning. How many "good" children do you know? Almost ALL children are little bastards at some point during the year. So really Santa only has to stroll around 5 or 6 houses in the morning in 24 time zones.

The rest of it is your parents feeling sorry for you because, even though you were a little tosspot throughout the year, you're still their child. So they pretend that you were good really and buy you electronic crap from the local electronic crapola shop and SAY it's from Santa.


Oh and Ulysses was the fastest artificially accelerated object. Helios B was three times faster.



I think you're confusing Santa Claus with Satan's claws.

 

[FoolKiller]

I think I didn't really believe, ever. A few things sort of stuck out in my mind-

-How the hell does a man go down a chimney?
-Since when do deer fly?
-Why don't poor kids get presents?
-Why is "Santa" at all the malls?
-How do short people make 3 billion toys in 364 days?
-Why is there a price tag whited out on this?
-Why does it have a brand name and store logo on it?


So many things that were wrong with it. Plus, the fake footprints that went to random and stupid places in the house.

Had a lot of imagination as a kid did you?

I'm of the opinion that if any kid stops long enough to examine their gifts for price tags then he forgot to have a good childhood, or the gift sucks.

 

[xXSilencerXx]

What happened to you?

He's not one of the children anymore.

 

[911_gt3_rs]

I found the 'truth' out from my brother who told me that he caught my parents dcelvering our bikes to our bedroom one year (i was probably about 6 years old), so the next year i made apoint of staying up to see if it was true - It was.

I asked my parents and they said that santa dropped off the presents downstairs and left, then they trook them upstairs, i held on to beleif for a while but gradually accepted that he never existed.

The underlined is the problem with this reasoning. How many "good" children do you know? Almost ALL children are little bastards at some point during the year. So really Santa only has to stroll around 5 or 6 houses in the morning in 24 time zones.

The rest of it is your parents feeling sorry for you because, even though you were a little tosspot throughout the year, you're still their child. So they pretend that you were good really and buy you electronic crap from the local electronic crapola shop and SAY it's from Santa.

That makes perfect sense famine!! I can believe again!! despite being nearly 18 years old.

 

[Silverzone]

Then you must have been very bad:

woah! I guess I was.