September 11, 2001 Contributions

[barryf1fan]

"CNN Headline News did a short news listing regarding Ford and GM's contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York and Washington.

The findings are as follows......

1. Ford- $1 million to American Red Cross matching employee
contributions of the same number plus 10 new Excursions to NY Fire Dept. The company also offered ER response team services and office space to displaced government employees.

2. GM- $1 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number and a fleet of vans, suv's, and
trucks.

3. Daimler Chrysler- $10 million to support of the children and victims of the Sept. 11 attack.

4. Harley Davidson motorcycles- $1 million and 30 new motorcycles to the New York Police Dept.

5. Volkswagen- Employees and management created a Sept 11 Foundation, funded initial with $2 million, for the assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

6. Hyundai- $300,000 to the American Red Cross.

7. Audi- Nothing.

8. BMW- Nothing.

9. Daewoo- Nothing.

10. Fiat- Nothing.

11. Honda- Nothing despite boasting of second best sales month ever in August 2001

12. Isuzu- Nothing.

13. Mitsubishi- Nothing.

14. Nissan- Nothing.

15. Porsche- Nothing. Press release with condolences via the Porsche website.

16. Subaru- Nothing.

17. Suzuki- Nothing.

18. Toyota- Nothing despite claims of high sales in July and August
2001. Condolences posted on the website.

Whenever the time may be for you to purchase or lease a new vehicle, keep this information in mind. You might want to give more consideration to a car manufactured by an American-owned and / or American based company.
Apart from Hyundai and Volkswagen, the foreign car companies contributed nothing at all to the citizens of the United States. It's OK for these companies to take money out of this country, but it is apparently not acceptable to return some in a time of crisis. I believe we should not forget things like this. Say thank you in a way that gets their attention.

 

[space]

But I could care less, what the companies do to help. Now, it was damn generous of the companies to give the money, But what they contrubute to charity has zero effect on if I buy their car or not.

I am not gonna buy a car because the car company gave millions of dollars to help in the relief. I'm buying the car for quality. I want a car that will last me awhile, and personally, the cars that I would buy are all the ones that didn't contribute to the relief.

Anyways this is just my opinion on the matter.

 

[Magic069]

I heard BMW gave new motorcycles and SUV's to American Red Cross and the Police Department.

 

[Tom M]

BMW had definitely donated 100 motorcycles, because I know a few NYC policeman that mentioned it.

check this link.
http://www.americanmotor.com/news.cfm?newsid=1778

 

[Magic069]

i knew i was right!

 

[-Fred-]

Honestly, why are we making a deal this big out of that? did Microsoft or IBM, or Apple give something?

They gave their condoleances to all the victims and the families of the victims, that's already a nice thing... Did American Airlines gave anything because one of their planes was involved?

It was nice from the manufacturers to give something, but frankly, did you guys give anything to charities? should we ignore all those that didn't give anything?

 

[barryf1fan]

I wasn't trying to start a debate or argument. I just thought it was ironic that basically U.S. companies have given to the relief fund. But Toyota, come on, is the third (or fourth) largest car company in the world.
Also, I shouldn't have posted that part at the bottom. I was just wondering what some people thought.

Not a big deal either, I just hadn't seen this yet.

 

[Klostrophobic]

Why would this influence anyone?

I bet most of the money will not be given to the families so it makes no difference at all.

Does Ford give money to India when they lost 10K people to an earthquake?

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by PunkRock
Did American Airlines gave anything because one of their planes was involved?

They are having big money problems (They even need to be bailed out), it's quite impossible to donate any large sum of money.


I agree with ya Barry, in some areas.

 

[TAFJonathan]

I donated 600 bucks.

 

[Klostrophobic]

I hope you know none of that went to the families. At least I highly doubt it.

 

[The White Tornado]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I hope you know none of that went to the families. At least I highly doubt it.

So your assuming? Can that be a valid answer if your assuming?

 

[Tom M]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I hope you know none of that went to the families. At least I highly doubt it.

Klos my man.... you are what is known as a "Glass is half empty" type of person.
essimist

 

[Macka]

Originally posted by barryf1fan


5. Volkswagen- Employees and management created a Sept 11 Foundation, funded initial with $2 million, for the assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

VW used American POW's as slave labor in their factories during WW2.

Sorry for pouring gas on a fire, but I can't resist. Since we're talking about who's great, and who isn't :mschievou

 

[Klostrophobic]

Originally posted by Tom McDonnell


Klos my man.... you are what is known as a "Glass is half empty" type of person.
essimist

No. REALISTIC.

 

[barryf1fan]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I hope you know none of that went to the families. At least I highly doubt it.

All I know is if you give none = get none.

I wasn't trying to attack anybody in the way of their feelings or opinions, we all have our own perspective. I wasn't trying to step on anybody's toes.

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Does Ford give money to India when they lost 10K people to an earthquake?

When there is a disaster in other countries U.S. compnanies and especially our "government" give more than generously. And I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, it just may not be right. And mine isn't necessarily right either.

Maybe we could lock this...

 

[The White Tornado]

I'm not sure if I've ever seen Klos Happy, here, or at the GTF.

 

[MildMatt]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
No. REALISTIC.

You mean you don't even have a glass.

 

[MildMatt]

This thread is somewhat pointless anyway. Why just pick on the car companies? Why not list every damn company in the world, and see who contributed. Then, boycot all the one's who didn't. And, you only be allowing yourself to buy about 2% of the things you usually purchase.

And what about all the other horrible things that happen?

Space got it. It's incredibily kind that some did what they did. But this should have no relevance over what car to buy. Yes, those who contributed should get a pat on the back, but to say we should bare this in mind, when thinking about buying a car...well...it's a little pathetic and thoughtless.

Yeah. I'm going to buy a really crap car, just because the makers contributed to charity. I can really see that happening.

 

[The White Tornado]

I wish they had contributed money to the charities, but I won't boycot anything because of it.

It doesn't matter, I wouldn't buy a Toyota anyway.

 

[Giancarlo]

Half the car companies you described aren't even American, i don't think other countries could really care much less. Maybe a bit, but not so much. And Hyundai, well, Hyundai doesn't much any sales except those from Asian grandmothers.

 

[kyle]

Originally posted by space
I am not gonna buy a car because the car company gave millions of dollars to help in the relief. I'm buying the car for quality. I want a car that will last me awhile, and personally, the cars that I would buy are all the ones that didn't contribute to the relief.

Anyways this is just my opinion on the matter.

Me either.

 

[Dudley]

How much did the US companies contribute after Omagh?

or to the 6000 people murdered by Bush and co in Afghanistan?

 

[Pako]

How much did the US companies contribute after Omagh?

or to the 6000 people murdered by Bush and co in Afghanistan?

Generally speaking.... The United States destroys cities and cultures then dumps billions and billions of dollars rebuilding it, all in the name democracy... Not to mention, helping (some would argue, sticking their nose is business where it didn't belong) other countries with hunger, cultural, and medical needs. America has always been the first to aid in foreign affairs.... That's all, that's our history, what's yours?

So what is this topic about? Humm.....

 

[Dudley]

pretty much the same I think

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The point is you wouldn't expect american companies to contribute to a problem in Korea, so why expect Hyundai to contribute in the US.