Serve penalty or carry to the end?

[Sven Jurgens]

What do you do when you get a time penalty?

Penalties happen for a lot of reasons, usually the wrong ones. Yellow flag, get hit from behind causing you to hit someone in front, take a short cut penalty for avoiding a spin out or someone hitting you off track. Sometimes you end up screwing up a corner and despite already losing a lot of time still get that wall hit or short cut penalty.

As you get faster, penalties don't really come off by themselves anymore. Still the result screen is usually full of red dots after a race and you end up dodging cars going very slow out of the last corner or almost stopped in front of the finish line. This can't be the intention of the slow down message. Nowadays I rather just keep the penalty, wrong or not and don't worry about the places I might lose in the result screen. It's very tempting when there's only a fraction left that gets rounded up yet oh well. I don't like dodging slow cars before the finish so shouldn't do it myself either.

Should penalties simply be permanent? Slow cars trying to 'serve' a penalty only cause more accidents.
Perhaps a time limit in which you can serve them instead of waiting until the end.
Should penalties not be served in the pit in daily C races?

 

[Voodoovaj]

Carry it to the end because you never really know how the race will play out.

Should penalties simply be permanent? Slow cars trying to 'serve' a penalty only cause more accidents.
Perhaps a time limit in which you can serve them instead of waiting until the end.
Should penalties not be served in the pit in daily C races?

Seeing as the penalties suck in general, as in you get penalized for being off track because someone knocked you off and the culprit often gets away with it, carrying a penalty to the next race is a bad idea.

 

[vvise]

I find the penalty rounds up to the nearest second. sometimes scraping just 0.1 off it can drop it a full second when you cross the line. Usually i'll take it to the finish line but occasionally if i have like 1.1x penalty ill drop it to 0.9x and i'll get a +1s crossing the line instead of a +2s.

 

[Nuschel01]

Just came across somebody who got a penalty it in todays race C by accidentally cutting the corner in the narrow chicane on Nurb and he tried to serve it directly after by slowing down massively and swerving to the right of the track, not a good idea when three cars exit the corner almost side by side behind him.
I usually loose them during the regular race time but if it‘s towards the end I often lift and coast towards corners or don‘t hammer the throttle down when exiting corners onto shorter straights.
Serving them at the pits would be a good idea 👍

 

[DriftMethod]

If it's early enough in the race, I'll try to work it down on the slowest corner or while behind another car. Like @vvise said, it rounds up, so worth it to slam on the brakes at the end.

 

[BSDShoes]

I'll serve it when I see space to slow down if I have enough distance over the car behind me. Or if I have a decent lead, I'll drive a bit conservatively which burns the penalty off gradually.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

I voted carry it to the end not because I think that is what a racer should choose to do but rather how penalties should be assessed and applied by the game itself. You get a penalty the time is tacked on at the end to affect finishing positions.

Scrubbing off penalties during the race should never have even been a possibility period.

 

[Veinz]

Carry to the end, I don't ever pull over because you never know how the race will play out and it can be a bit hazardous for you and other cars. If I still have time left when I cross the finish line then so be it. It's easy to scrub off in the low speed turns anyway.

It should be permanent and applied at the end of the race instead of allowing us to slow down to get rid of it. Having it this way will deter some bad habits.

 

[Khannie]

It is crazy when you get the last turn and cars are serving their penalties. Usually leads to some panicked moments with some swerving at the line.

 

[Jump_Ace]

All depends on how close the car behind you is.


Jerome

 

[Baron Blitz Red]

You know, I think I've seen this idea before in another thread...

Dirty Drivers are Out of Control — Nearly Unplayable

Cheers

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Carry it to the end because you never really know how the race will play out.

Seeing as the penalties suck in general, as in you get penalized for being off track because someone knocked you off and the culprit often gets away with it, carrying a penalty to the next race is a bad idea.

This whole scrubbing does seem tied to an unreliable penalty system. That should be improved first.

I never thought about carrying it to the next race, add to your qualifier time for starting position. Better not.

However as it is now it invites being very loose with corners in the first lap, as there is plenty of time to get rid of it. Of course you might need that time when you get punted from behind into another car.

Another situation in daily C races is that penalties don't count at all if you don't make it to the finish in time. You can end with 30sec penalties in 5th just as the timer runs out and are instantly forgiven. Race end timer should be longer as well (while not preventing the top from leaving)

 

[R10tz0r]

I personally try and save the time for the parts where I'm strongest on the circuit and slow down through that section, that's if I'm not at fault.

If I am at fault and my idiocy has caused someone to go off, I'll try to keep off the racing line and slow down so much I get ghosted and serve the penalty while waiting for the driver I punted to go past if he hasn't yet.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

So as someone who is not a racer and doesn't understand the rules for penalties but is trying to learn... How do they work? I thought it just tacked time onto the end of the race.

 

[R10tz0r]

So as someone who is not a racer and doesn't understand the rules for penalties but is trying to learn... How do they work? I thought it just tacked time onto the end of the race.

if you cut a corner/gain an unfair advantage/pass another car under yellows/ram someone you can be penalised

the penalty is that you have to slow down a certain amount of time, which can very depending on the infraction, from 1 second to 10 seconds.

there are basically two ways you can deal with the penalty given, deal with it during the race, or have the penalty applied after the race.

having it applied after the race will round it UP to the nearest second, and place you accordingly with regard to total race time.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

So as someone who is not a racer and doesn't understand the rules for penalties but is trying to learn... How do they work? I thought it just tacked time onto the end of the race.

The 'problem' starts from usually not having to slow down at all to lose a penalty. If you're not the best driver it will come off naturally in the slower corners even though you are trying your best. This forms a habit of not caring about penalties in the first place. It's also very easy to lay off the accelerator out of the last corner to make sure the rest of it is gone. The penalty disappears much faster than the actual time it would add and. On nearly all tracks you're better off slowing down for the finish than taking the penalty to the end. Besides that I've seen plenty people blocking while serving the penalty to make sure to keep their position. It's actually harder to lose the penalty the right way on a straight, than going slow out of a corner while being a danger to traffic.

In the result screen you get a red dot behind your time if you had a penalty during the race but scrubbed it.
Your time goes red with a penalty behind in the amount that you had left rounded up to the nearest integer. 0.001 sec left is +1 sec tacked on.

The idea behind slowing down when getting a penalty is fine, in practice it only makes things worse.

 

[M1SS-D3V10US]

I didn't see an option for what I do in the event of incurring a penalty, so I didn't vote.

I will serve the penalty while still driving. You are required to be off the throttle and under a set speed (I don't know the speed) to have the penalty time start counting down. As a result, I will sever the penalty in the slower corners, if possible, during the race.

If I incur a penalty on the final lap and fighting for position, I will take the penalty to the end of race, in the hopes that I'm able to get the other driver to make a mistake and give the needed time for a cushion for the penalty at the end of the race.

I've noticed that there are times that GT Sport has increased the time penalty if the penalty was not completely served. If you have a 7 sec penalty and you manage to serve 3.42 seconds of it before the end of the race, the computer will round up to the next whole number. So you would have a 4 second penalty.

 

[John Crellin]

I voted for the last corner scrub.. 9/10 times i only lose 1 postion (if i lose one at all)

I think its a strategic decision not a moral one . If i have some one on my tail i usually to slow down in the last corner, that will tie them up a bit, and allow me to scrub my penalty. If i have a larger gap on the guy behind me than the penalty time ill just ride on through and take the time hit. Its all about position.

but when there is a group of 3 that are less than 0.5sec behind me and i have 1.5 sec penalty, i can promise you i will try to scrub that time, no sense in finishing 3 position back just for pride. ( the red dot is still there anyways)

 

[psyller911]

I try to lose it during the race in slower corners or if i get a stupid amount of time and im in good position, then i try to shake most of it right after i get the penalty.

 

[zzz_pt]

Most times, if I get a penalty I'll get rid of it during the race with a slower corner or something. Pretty rare to get penalties though. If I get a weird 10 second penalty and I can't get rid of it until the finish line, I'll slow down before crossing it.

 

[meck_rb7]

When you don't serve your penalty, will your SR drop more or not?

 

[Nando deBem]

There’s the option of slow down when you can... and if it’s not possible to pay all your debts... slow down before the finish line.

 

[ShiftingGears]

It's dependent on car, track and laps to serve the penalty.

 

[Islaygaz]

I generally keep it if it's near the start of the race. When I'm trying to avoid people by lifting, breaking etc. that sometimes gets it to go down a bit and over the course of a few laps it's almost gone. If it's at the end it depends on the gap of the car behind.

 

[TeWheke]

Never slow down - just after the game came out I was winning by 2.5 seconds but had 3 seconds of penalties going into the final straight at Kyoto - Yamagiwa (I had run wide at the last chicane on lap 3 of a 4 lap race). I raced hard to try to build up a gap of more than 3 seconds but he stayed in touch and since it was probably going to be his first win I should just let him cross the line first so I backed off completely. He crossed the line in first and I coasted across the line about 1.5 seconds after him, only to discover he had 1 second of penalty time left to serve so if I'd just carried on racing to the finish I would've won the race.



FWIW it was his first win.

 

[Crazy Taylor]

Most penalties can be wound down by lifting in the tight turns

 

[Steven Keeney]

Serve it. There are plenty of opportunities in a race to lay off the gas, especially when coming off a corner. Don't fully accelerate for a couple of seconds and watch that penalty disappear. When I first started this game I got freaked out by the the big warning "Slow Down", so I'd slow down and get passed by a couple folks. No more, every track has a turn or 2 you can scrub off penalty time. And don't slow on a straight. My experience is lay off on the corner exit. Have fun !?

 

[Robben]

As opposed to your options, I try and work it down over the remainder of the race.

 

[meck_rb7]

When you don't serve your penalty, will your SR drop more or not?

?? Somebody knows?

 

[Robben]

?? Somebody knows?

I don't think so... obviously your time increases, so your finishing position and potentially DR drop.