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Short back story, I gave PC2 a go out of the box, it was garbage, put it down for 8 months, have come back, and quite like it. Mostly I race online, but recently I’ve been trying to set up some multi class endurance races offline.
I’ve been really, really struggling to find settings that work. I’ve tried a number of different races, and have been quite disappointed each time.
• First, I tried LMP2, GTE, and GT3 at Leguna Seca. AI difficulty at 88, Aggression at 90. I started back of the grid in a GT3.
Here’s what went wrong;
- massive crash in T1, cars everywhere...it happens, not big deal. However, the order got really jumbled, with several GTE cars at the back. The GTE cars COULD NOT overtake the GT3 cars. It really ruined the race...the immersion was dead, and unless I would have gone full divebomb mode and just picked cars off into the Cork Screw lap after lap (AI was very slow out of T6, consistently), there was no racing or overtaking
- I was disappointed to see that the gaps between almost all the cars remained uniform for pretty much the full race.
- The LMP2s...oh god. I did a 45 minute race, and got lapped ONE time
. And all the LMP2 cars came through in one long line, nose to tail. They were also VERY cautious, basically refusing to overtake me in corners. Even if I left them the inside, I would have to nearly park the car on the outside in order for them to get by me. They refused to pass me on the outside of any corner.
I suppose I could turn up the AI difficulty, but other than being slow at T6, the GT3 AI was running a decent pace for me. It’s just that the supposed “fast” categories were really slow. Is there any way to make categories you are not racing in, race faster? Would turning up the Aggression help out at all?
Just a side note, I tried doing a GT3 only race at Spa, with the same AI settings (88/90). With the Difficulty at 88, I was getting left in the dust by the AI (whereas at Leguna, I could hang with them easily, and even toy with them, on the same settings). I’ll admit Spa has never been my strongest circuit, but I went from being on par with the AI at Leguna, to 2-3 seconds off the pace at Spa.
•. 2nd race I tried was LMP1, LMP2, and GTE at Fuji. Again I was at the back in a Vette. Same AI settings, 88/90.
Again, the pace of the GTE cars was reasonable. They were notably fast through 100R, notably slow through the final sector (I could make up almost a full second just by taking later apexes and getting better drive off the corners).
Again, the problem was the “fast” cars. It took more than 15 minutes for the LMP1s to come around to lap me. They were all in a line, nose to tail, and again, were redicously timid. Fuji is about as wide as it gets, and the AI pretty much refused to go side by side through corners. I was leaving gaps that an LMP1 car should easily easily get through, and the AI would just refuse to take the gap, unless i pulled right off and backed right out of it. There was one instance where myself and another GTE car overtook 2 LMP1 cars by going around the outside at T1.
In a 30 minute race, I wasn’t overtaken by a single LMP2.
Fastest LMP1 lap was 1:31.266
Fastest LMP2 lap was 1:35.677
Fastest GTE lap was 1:40.260
My best was 1:39.779
So, am I doing something wrong in setting up these races? Is the relative performance of these categories waaaay off? Any help would be appreciated.
With the Classic Le Mans circuit coming in the next pack, I really want to figure out these AI settings so I can run some endurance races there....but I’m getting a little frustrated/discouraged by the AI. I’m not looking for AI perfection, but something at least that a) works, b) doesn’t kill the immersion.
I’ve been really, really struggling to find settings that work. I’ve tried a number of different races, and have been quite disappointed each time.
• First, I tried LMP2, GTE, and GT3 at Leguna Seca. AI difficulty at 88, Aggression at 90. I started back of the grid in a GT3.
Here’s what went wrong;
- massive crash in T1, cars everywhere...it happens, not big deal. However, the order got really jumbled, with several GTE cars at the back. The GTE cars COULD NOT overtake the GT3 cars. It really ruined the race...the immersion was dead, and unless I would have gone full divebomb mode and just picked cars off into the Cork Screw lap after lap (AI was very slow out of T6, consistently), there was no racing or overtaking
- I was disappointed to see that the gaps between almost all the cars remained uniform for pretty much the full race.
- The LMP2s...oh god. I did a 45 minute race, and got lapped ONE time
. And all the LMP2 cars came through in one long line, nose to tail. They were also VERY cautious, basically refusing to overtake me in corners. Even if I left them the inside, I would have to nearly park the car on the outside in order for them to get by me. They refused to pass me on the outside of any corner.I suppose I could turn up the AI difficulty, but other than being slow at T6, the GT3 AI was running a decent pace for me. It’s just that the supposed “fast” categories were really slow. Is there any way to make categories you are not racing in, race faster? Would turning up the Aggression help out at all?
Just a side note, I tried doing a GT3 only race at Spa, with the same AI settings (88/90). With the Difficulty at 88, I was getting left in the dust by the AI (whereas at Leguna, I could hang with them easily, and even toy with them, on the same settings). I’ll admit Spa has never been my strongest circuit, but I went from being on par with the AI at Leguna, to 2-3 seconds off the pace at Spa.
•. 2nd race I tried was LMP1, LMP2, and GTE at Fuji. Again I was at the back in a Vette. Same AI settings, 88/90.
Again, the pace of the GTE cars was reasonable. They were notably fast through 100R, notably slow through the final sector (I could make up almost a full second just by taking later apexes and getting better drive off the corners).
Again, the problem was the “fast” cars. It took more than 15 minutes for the LMP1s to come around to lap me. They were all in a line, nose to tail, and again, were redicously timid. Fuji is about as wide as it gets, and the AI pretty much refused to go side by side through corners. I was leaving gaps that an LMP1 car should easily easily get through, and the AI would just refuse to take the gap, unless i pulled right off and backed right out of it. There was one instance where myself and another GTE car overtook 2 LMP1 cars by going around the outside at T1.
In a 30 minute race, I wasn’t overtaken by a single LMP2.
Fastest LMP1 lap was 1:31.266
Fastest LMP2 lap was 1:35.677
Fastest GTE lap was 1:40.260
My best was 1:39.779
So, am I doing something wrong in setting up these races? Is the relative performance of these categories waaaay off? Any help would be appreciated.
With the Classic Le Mans circuit coming in the next pack, I really want to figure out these AI settings so I can run some endurance races there....but I’m getting a little frustrated/discouraged by the AI. I’m not looking for AI perfection, but something at least that a) works, b) doesn’t kill the immersion.
and I will repost my list with a few changes
Went in with a LMP1 and lost the pack of them after 3 corners. My aim (not to have a bruised ego) was, to the end of that race, to stay ahead of the LMP2 pack.
