Setup Vs. Setup: Shelby Cobra Coupe, was Jaguar XJR-15

[Parnelli Bone]

Parnelli Bone and stingrayman, how about your cobra?

Here i am finally. Sorry it took so long. Juggling a full time job, sleep schedule, as well as good old healthy substance abuse has been cutting into my racing time. And i just finished school!

So as usual i drove the Cobra Coupe “stock”, just trying to see how it behaves before my imageinary mechanics & crew get their hands dirty. I didn't try all that hard. It's been months since i've even visited Rome Nite (other than the occasional Manufacturer's Race) so i had to remember the corner structure while at the same time dealing with my Cobra's inadequacies which are the following:

1. Understeer
2. Springs too tightly set keep it bouncing, especially up on some of the rises and if i cut across an apex grid.
3. Throttle induced oversteer is present, but not horrible, since the power is only 394@6,500. A bit of limited-slip tuning should fix it.

Anyways, i got a 1:37ish time. Yeah, i know it's not that great.

Like i said, i attacked the springs and limited-slip first, as well as lowering hte front to 111 mm and front damper to 3. I also brought the front-end camber to 3.8° I felt that the Cobra didn't have enough top end down the main straight portions (if you can call them straight) 5th gear definately needed to have some play-time too.

Now my first-lap ‘fixed’ car could almost catch up to my ‘stock’ Cobra Ghost (the ghost was from my stock 2nd lap) and i got a 1:39.691...woulda caught the damn ghost had i navigated a couple of turns better. The good news was present, though: My car handled a lot more predictably. Time for some final tweaks.

I felt my lap time improve a bit, but wasn't happy with some of the lower-speed corners, where i wanted more kick-back from the rear. So i raised it a little and added more rebound back there, as well as pretty much axing the decel LSD so i could get a nifty power-slide on a tighter angle. Of course, this increases the danger that my Cobra could spin out...but when behind the wheel of a '66 Cobra, Danger is Parnelli's name. Sorry, just a little cheesey moment.

Springs: 9.7 / 7.3 kg/mm
Ride: 111 mm / 125 mm
B. Damps: 3/5
R. DAmps: 4/6
CAmber: 3.8° / 1.2°
toe: 0 all around

Gearbox Auto 11
1st: 3.800
2nd: 2.775
3rd: 1.975
4th: 1.500
5th: 1.200
Final: 2.800

Downforce: 0.66 / 0.85
LSD: 17 / 31 / 8
Tires: Supersoft / Soft
No traction controls (just keepin it real...they didn't have this **** back in 1966)

Finally, i got a respectable 1:33.589. Hooray for me, i'm a looser! Naw, i don't care. Perhaps if i try more downforce and get to know this course better, i'll get lower lap time.

 

[AngelCreator]

Here i am finally. Sorry it took so long. Juggling a full time job, sleep schedule, as well as good old healthy substance abuse has been cutting into my racing time. And i just finished school!

So as usual i drove the Cobra Coupe “stock”, just trying to see how it behaves before my imageinary mechanics & crew get their hands dirty. I didn't try all that hard. It's been months since i've even visited Rome Nite (other than the occasional Manufacturer's Race) so i had to remember the corner structure while at the same time dealing with my Cobra's inadequacies which are the following:

1. Understeer
2. Springs too tightly set keep it bouncing, especially up on some of the rises and if i cut across an apex grid.
3. Throttle induced oversteer is present, but not horrible, since the power is only 394@6,500. A bit of limited-slip tuning should fix it.

Anyways, i got a 1:37ish time. Yeah, i know it's not that great.

Like i said, i attacked the springs and limited-slip first, as well as lowering hte front to 111 mm and front damper to 3. I also brought the front-end camber to 3.8° I felt that the Cobra didn't have enough top end down the main straight portions (if you can call them straight) 5th gear definately needed to have some play-time too.

Now my first-lap ‘fixed’ car could almost catch up to my ‘stock’ Cobra Ghost (the ghost was from my stock 2nd lap) and i got a 1:39.691...woulda caught the damn ghost had i navigated a couple of turns better. The good news was present, though: My car handled a lot more predictably. Time for some final tweaks.

I felt my lap time improve a bit, but wasn't happy with some of the lower-speed corners, where i wanted more kick-back from the rear. So i raised it a little and added more rebound back there, as well as pretty much axing the decel LSD so i could get a nifty power-slide on a tighter angle. Of course, this increases the danger that my Cobra could spin out...but when behind the wheel of a '66 Cobra, Danger is Parnelli's name. Sorry, just a little cheesey moment.

Springs: 9.7 / 7.3 kg/mm
Ride: 111 mm / 125 mm
B. Damps: 3/5
R. DAmps: 4/6
CAmber: 3.8° / 1.2°
toe: 0 all around

Gearbox Auto 11
1st: 3.800
2nd: 2.775
3rd: 1.975
4th: 1.500
5th: 1.200
Final: 2.800

Downforce: 0.66 / 0.85
LSD: 17 / 31 / 8
Tires: Supersoft / Soft
No traction controls (just keepin it real...they didn't have this **** back in 1966)

Finally, i got a respectable 1:33.589. Hooray for me, i'm a looser! Naw, i don't care. Perhaps if i try more downforce and get to know this course better, i'll get lower lap time.

Keep going:tup:, because there's more speed in the car.
Just look at mine and sucahyo times and good 1st time👍.

 

[sucahyo]

I tried your car Parnelli Bone, I feel your car more slippery. It is great for drifting in slow corner, but in fast corner I have to be more carefull. Your car also feel jiggling before sharp left slow corner. Maybe you set rear damper too high.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I tried your car Parnelli Bone, I feel your car more slippery. It is great for drifting in slow corner, but in fast corner I have to be more carefull. Your car also feel jiggling before sharp left slow corner. Maybe you set rear damper too high.

Yeah, i had the rear damper set so that when i braked into those tighter turns, the back of the Cobra would hunch up like an angry cat, thus throwing it around faster. Of course, you'll need good countersteer sometimes if things get too hairy. Those faster corners demand serious knowledge of the course: where and when to start attacking them. Rome Nite is full of blind turns and you have to start into turns knowing where you'll wind up.

 

[sucahyo]

I see. It's a drift setting .

Rome Nite is full of blind turns and you have to start into turns knowing where you'll wind up.

That's the fun thing of Rome Night, I do 1:44 when first driving these track, and AI can get 1:36......
With corner you can't see, you have to decide with guessing .

So, what is the next car & track? How about Lotus Motorsport? I can't make this car handle well.

 

[AngelCreator]

I see. It's a drift setting .
That's the fun thing of Rome Night, I do 1:44 when first driving these track, and AI can get 1:36......
With corner you can't see, you have to decide with guessing .

So, what is the next car & track? How about Lotus Motorsport? I can't make this car handle well.

This track is FUN, and as for the Lotus Motorsport, lets go for it:tup:,
When everone is ready.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I'm down. How about one of you start a new thread...this one is getting hard to navigate (i have webTV, not a real computer)

 

[sucahyo]

ok, what about the track?
autumn ring? short seattle?

 

[AngelCreator]

ok, what about the track?
autumn ring? short seattle?

How about Autumn Ring, and thanks for the help on the sound for GT2 on
my computer, now it sounds really good:tup:.

 

[sucahyo]

How about Autumn Ring, and thanks for the help on the sound for GT2 on
my computer, now it sounds really good:tup:.

Ok.
I have problem with sound too before .