Sharing My Learning Progression

[FWS_666]

I've begun planting the wheel and stand seeds with the wife. She pulls in a lovely bonus at year-end, so I might angle for the new T150 for Christmas. Lots of research left to do, though. I'm sure it makes the MT easier and feels more natural. Until then, I'm rather hamstrung by diaper and baby food budgets.

On the fence about 3 pedals over 2. I don't drift, and I'm used to clutchless upshifts from riding motorcycles for so long (used to be the parts and service manager of a Triumph dealership), so I don't know if a big-money setup would be worth it for me.

I've been look at the DFGT and the T150 myself. I think im going tp go with the T150. I always used the clutch in motocross. Was fast enough with it that it didnt make a difference. The only time I didn't use the clutch was if I was riding a bike with a really stiff pull and my fingers were tired. Last time I rode trails I was out for a few hours and couldn't feel my fingers. Thought I was pulling the lever in, but I wasnt. Lol

 

[FWS_666]

Sorry, guys. Between my breakup and having company over the weekend, I haven't played much. On top of that, I think my brake pedal may be messed up already. Used to, id have to fully depress the brake pedal to get full braking power, and now it seems that barely any pressure puts on full braking power. I'm about to sell my rifle anyways to buy a new wheel and pedals soon, hopefully, so it isnt too big of a deal.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

I've begun planting the wheel and stand seeds with the wife. She pulls in a lovely bonus at year-end, so I might angle for the new T150 for Christmas. Lots of research left to do, though. I'm sure it makes the MT easier and feels more natural. Until then, I'm rather hamstrung by diaper and baby food budgets.

On the fence about 3 pedals over 2. I don't drift, and I'm used to clutchless upshifts from riding motorcycles for so long (used to be the parts and service manager of a Triumph dealership), so I don't know if a big-money setup would be worth it for me.

The T150 is a good wheel and also PS4 compatible. For a stand I would recommend a Wheelstand Pro because of the high level of adjustability, quality of finish and ease of folding / storage.

Regarding three pedals - the clutch model is poor in GT6 so compared with driving a real car you will get a lot of missed shifts - in the game a missed shift goes into neutral. I never use the clutch pedal and H pattern shifter for online racing as it loses you a lot of time compared with paddle shifting. I only have one friend who races with H pattern, but he is never near the front.

Obviously we don't know what the clutch model is like in GTS yet, but there was no improvement between GT5 and GT6. Fixing / improving the clutch model is unlikely to be a priority for PD.

The Logitech G29 has three pedals and the shifter is reasonably priced, but it is toylike and unrealistic. The Thrustmaster shifter is much more like a real shifter, but is also a lot more money and although it is good quality and well constructed there is not enough resistance so it feels very different to driving a real car with a manual transmission (NB I have a T500RS with TH8RS shifter).

In summary my advice would be don't bother with a clutch pedal and shifter for GT6 because it won't be worth the extra expense - it is also unlikely to be worth having for GTS either.

A T150 should do you fine. I have a friend with that model and he is very happy with it. A full rig would be better than a stand to mount it on, but that was not an option for me due to space constraints and the need to maintain marital harmony! Better to avoid the T80 and all non force feedback wheels as they are difficult to sell on (due to lack of demand) - they may give a better gaming experience to people who are not good with a hand controller, but the expense will delay the day when you can get a good starter wheel (T150).

 

[TabbyTown]

Sorry, guys. Between my breakup and having company over the weekend, I haven't played much.

Memorial Day weekend company kept me away, too. Sorry to hear about your IRL off-track excursion, relationships are tricky handlers. Same fix, though - look ahead and keep your nose pointed in the right direction and you'll be on track in top gear before you know it...

*excuses self for corniness infraction*

Give us a report on the new rig when it happens!


Thanks to @Sick Cylinder, that's some good information on the wheels! I lust after a TS500 and a seat rig, but I think the T150 on a stand is going to be the sweet spot for me. Wife will be happy that it can easily be moved out from in front of the TV and replaced by the coffee table when not in use.

 

[FWS_666]

Well, right now I'm trying to decide what car to buy next. It's between an FXX, Zonda R, Toyota 7, and another Le Mans car. Drove the Zonda R in GT5 and didn't like it, but I've heard it's better in GT6. Plus, I also used to hate Le Mans cars, but the better I've gotten, the more I like them. Anyways, I may do a few laps on a track (suggest one), and post the best lap time. Been using the BMW V12 LMR(?) a lot lately and enjoying it, so that'll probably be what I use for the hot lap later. As far as the braking problem I was having, maybe it was because I wasn't playing much last weekend and using more brakes than I thought. The turning on the wheel is starting to get a little rough when turned to the right about 30 degrees. Other than that, everything is fine.

 

[TabbyTown]

I like the Zonda R, but I really dig the LMP cars. I prefer the open top ones like that BMW you're using because I've been playing from the cockpit camera - the one where you can see the hands turning the wheel. I find that view helps me trace smooth lines and nail the apex more often, but I can't be as late on the brakes or as early on the throttle. Not yet, anyways. The closed-top cars can have some pretty limited visibility. If you use the overhead/chase camera like I had since GT1 up until a few weeks ago, it's all a moot point.

 

[FWS_666]

I like the Zonda R, but I really dig the LMP cars. I prefer the open top ones like that BMW you're using because I've been playing from the cockpit camera - the one where you can see the hands turning the wheel. I find that view helps me trace smooth lines and nail the apex more often, but I can't be as late on the brakes or as early on the throttle. Not yet, anyways. The closed-top cars can have some pretty limited visibility. If you use the overhead/chase camera like I had since GT1 up until a few weeks ago, it's all a moot point.

The cockpit view is all I use. I ended up buying the FXX and don't like it at all. I'm about to sell it and probably buy the Toyota 7 or the Formula GT. Bought it before, but only drove it once and sold it. Not sure why. Think I'll try it again.

 

[FWS_666]

Sorry for not updating you guys, I'm just kind of taking a break from the game. I haven't felt as though I've been improving anymore even with all the time im putting in. I got tired of not seeing improvements so I decided to take a break for a while. I haven't even been on PS3 too much. Maybe an hour or two a day compared to my usual 5-6 hours. Maybe a break is what I need to start making some improvements and feeling more confident. On thr other hand, I'd like to go get a MotoGP game. Always have beem more of a bike guy than a car guy.

 

[FWS_666]

Well, after about a month break, I'm back at it. I wasn't seeing any improvements at all in my driving and got tires of it. Now I'm hoping I can actually build on what I know, but right now, I'm doing terrible. Not really sure how you improve any more once you hit a certain point. Seems like hitting a brick wall. I try to brake later, I go off in the grass or kill my momentum, try to accelerate earlier and i either spin or go off track, try to use more track and i screw up my line and go over a curb and upset the car or just kill my momentum completely. Not sure how to improve anymore from what I already have.

 

[Protokyuubi]

Play around with suspension and brake setups and drive as smoothly as possible, eventually you'll take the car to its absolute tuned limits on every corner, which is when you start fresh on a new track and retune for that so you can take the car to its absolute limits there too.

 

[FWS_666]

Play around with suspension and brake setups and drive as smoothly as possible, eventually you'll take the car to its absolute tuned limits on every corner, which is when you start fresh on a new track and retune for that so you can take the car to its absolute limits there too.

The only problem is, I'm probably the worst tuner there is. The only thing I ever do is mess with camber if I'm having some steering issues.

 

[Protokyuubi]

So work on that, there's only so much you can do with a stock car.

 

[CBH]

The only problem is, I'm probably the worst tuner there is. The only thing I ever do is mess with camber if I'm having some steering issues.

Do you get tunes from the tuning forum ?, just remember when approaching a corner slow in and fast out, also this will help you is the Driving line turn it on that helps you where to brake in the corners as well.

 

[FWS_666]

Do you get tunes from the tuning forum ?, just remember when approaching a corner slow in and fast out, also this will help you is the Driving line turn it on that helps you where to brake in the corners as well.

I've got the braking and line down, I just try to change it up and end up getting myself into trouble. I've tried the tunes from the forums, but I always feel more comfortable with the stock tune.

 

[CBH]

I've got the braking and line down, I just try to change it up and end up getting myself into trouble. I've tried the tunes from the forums, but I always feel more comfortable with the stock tune.

A stock tune you will get into trouble easily, unless you are good driver and you know what you are doing, tuning a car is the best way to go if you want to be very good player.

 

[Death2508]

Have you checked out Hami's tuning guide? That and @shmogt 's drift tuning guide were my bibles when I was starting. Setting your accel-decel really low on your LSD really helps turn in and lessened tire slip in higher powered cars.

 

[Death2508]

Relax - This is the most important. A lot of time is wasted when you either overcorrect and throw the car way off balance meaning you'll take longer to get on the power, or take the corner too nervously and fail to utilise the whole track. Trust the car will behave how it should and power through it, if you go off track then just dial it back a touch each time on that section until you pass it, eventually you'll hit all the clipping points and get a fast time for that section. Overcorrecting when you overshoot teaches you nothing about how the car reacts to the corner, take the corner with full commitment and if you run off, let it be as now you have more info on why it went wide, whether it's too much speed, overloading the tires and understeering, or just grip not coming back quite when you expected.

Panic corrections on large, sweeping corners (think 2nd corner on Willow) so that I don't oversteer into the dirt has screwed me more times than O care to admit. I wish I had a wheel so I could actually correct stuff like that without messing up. (@ mods, sorry that I double posted, I'm on mobile, and an old one at that so formatting is really hard for me. Forgive me?)

 

[Rune Grodal]

Hi! Anyone got 100% and all the cars in here?