Shift 2 Freezing--Will it damage my PS3?

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Having played Shift 2 on my PS3 over the past 2 weeks, I have had about 5 freezes, four of them being on the black loading screen of death, and one freeze on track (1800-PP GTR at Dakota Oval).

I'm just curious: Can all of these freezes cause permanent damage to my console? Can they potentially cause a YLOD if enough of them occur? Because I am a bit worried as to whether or not I should actually continue to play this game for the safety of my console. :nervous:
 
It's possible that serious damage may or may not occur to your system. Personally, I have yet to encounter a PS3 that was damaged from a game that freezes often, but that's just me, so I cannot speak for others. Hard drives can be delicate pieces at times, so it all depends on different factors I suppose.

I have and used to play Midnight Club Los Angeles and that game froze more times then I can remember. I completed the game, so I don't play it anymore, but to my knowledge, it still freezes.

My PS3 is still going strong years later.:)
 
Forced rebooting is always harmfull for the system... but it probably will take alot of rebooting to damage the PS3
 
Because the disk might be writing info or something Im no expert on the matter... but Ive read that sony refused to trade some YLOD units because they claimed they were not properly turned off... so I assumed the forced rebooting was not very healthy.... It sure isnt on PC or refrigerators :lol: :lol: :lol:

Im sorry if Im missleading someone its not my purpose though in the PS3 instrutions it advises to always turn it off properly.. But if you know more about the subject than me you are more than wellcome to enlighten me... in fact I would appreciate it very much.
 
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Well, electronics and software is part my profession, so I have some idea about this. With a computer system there are mainly two aspects to possible damage incurred by rebooting and power cycling.

One is damaging the content of persistent storage (usually magnetic discs or flash memory). That is why systems should be shut down according to their prescribed procedure. If you hit the power switch right in the middle of a write to persistent memory you may get corrupted files or entire file systems. However, if your system hangs after a crash, this point is kind of moot since it must be rebooted anyway. In the case of a gaming console, it's usually only writing to the hard disc when saving (or when downloading stuff, but then you usually don't play a game that will cause a hang). I.e. a game that crashes during gameplay will seldom cause damage to files and filesystems.

The other is inrush of current during power-on and thermal cycles as an effect of power cycling. These can have a cumulative effect. However for most consumer electronics this is nothing to worry about; the mentioned effects will not normally cause damage for the life time of the equipment. Also, thermal cycles will only occur if the system has time to cool down between power-off and power-on, which isn't the case for a quick reboot. For completeness sake, I'll mention that for systems such as PCs where you have a reset button, a reboot pressing the reset button will have none of these electrical or thermal effects.

Of course now and then a console dies, usually due to manufacturing defects, and unfortunately users are quick to hit the net with forum postings like "Game XYZ killed my PS3/Xbox/Wii", resulting in the creation of myths.

In conclusion, apart from ruining files, e.g. getting a corrupt game save, there isn't much to worry about.

DJ
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Well, electronics and software is part my profession, so I have some idea about this. With a computer system there are mainly two aspects to possible damage incurred by rebooting and power cycling.

One is damaging the content of persistent storage (usually magnetic discs or flash memory). That is why systems should be shut down according to their prescribed procedure. If you hit the power switch right in the middle of a write to persistent memory you may get corrupted files or entire file systems. However, if your system hangs after a crash, this point is kind of moot since it must be rebooted anyway. In the case of a gaming console, it's usually only writing to the hard disc when saving (or when downloading stuff, but then you usually don't play a game that will cause a hang). I.e. a game that crashes during gameplay will seldom cause damage to files and filesystems.

The other is inrush of current during power-on and thermal cycles as an effect of power cycling. These can have a cumulative effect. However for most consumer electronics this is nothing to worry about; the mentioned effects will not normally cause damage for the life time of the equipment. Also, thermal cycles will only occur if the system has time to cool down between power-off and power-on, which isn't the case for a quick reboot. For completeness sake, I'll mention that for systems such as PCs where you have a reset button, a reboot pressing the reset button will have none of these electrical or thermal effects.

Of course now and then a console dies, usually due to manufacturing defects, and unfortunately users are quick to hit the net with forum postings like "Game XYZ killed my PS3/Xbox/Wii", resulting in the creation of myths.

In conclusion, apart from ruining files, e.g. getting a corrupt game save, there isn't much to worry about.

DJ
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Thank you very much 👍 Im a little less ignorant on the matter now thanks to you ;)
 
My PS3 Slim 13 months old died yesterday, began overheating and artifacting. I do not blame Shift however, although I have played the hell out of it.

Time to save for a new one :( This will be my 4th
 
You are obviously doing something wrong... I still have my 3 year old Fat and Ive been playing the hell out of it in the past 2 years with no problems (knock on wood)
Do you have it in an open place by itself? because that is very strange....
 
My PS3 Slim 13 months old died yesterday, began overheating and artifacting. I do not blame Shift however, although I have played the hell out of it.

Time to save for a new one :( This will be my 4th

13 months old? One month outside warranty? Call up Sony, they will replace or repair it. Consumer affairs departments take very dim views of equipment that fails just outside it's warranty period.

My 80GB fat broke after 13 months, and after a couple of attempts by Sony to repair it they ended up replacing it with a free Slim.

Tribolik, I don't think it's fair to start telling him he did something wrong. Faulty consoles do exist. Maybe he just got unlucky.
 
1 it might be faulty, 2 he may be a bit unlucky, 3 seems a bit strange but 4 YOLDs on different consoles??????
Im not judging him Im just trying to help him prevent his 5th YLOD....
 
I move alot from country to country, so it might be that. I have kept them in open spaces and spray them out with canned air every so often. It's just luck, also I own my own businesses which run themselves, meaning I play ALOT. So it's probably just that. My current system was bought in the US, then I took it to Dominican Republic and now in Peru. I dont think Sony will service down here.

But thanks for the concern.

I hate to think what autolog will look like when I get back on. :yuck:
 
As tribolik mentions in post #11, it's important to always keep your console in a place where air can easily circulate, and never cover the vents. Excessive heat is the enemy of electronics and it can kill any equipment. I've heard that early Xboxes and the fat PS3s can get quite hot. Take care of your console, and unless you're unlucky, as in getting one with a lurking defect, it should last longer than you'll care for :)

DJ
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The FAT PS3 can get VERY hot. But I keep it in a place where air is all around but I can still hear the blower working and feel the heat with my hand.

I also try to keep the exits clean of all that "dust". In the summer its very hard to keep that thing cool though...
 
I've finally ran into the freezing issues. Was on a real flyer on the Nordshleife in my Audi R8 and it froze on the long straight just as I went over 200mph. Tried again and it froze early in the lap. Really annoying.
 
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