Should the penny be scrapped?

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Should the penny be killed?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 12 37.5%
  • No.

    Votes: 14 43.8%
  • Who Cares?

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • Total voters
    32
The options market (for stocks, anyway) is priced in nickel increments... meaning the cheapest option price (not the strike price) is $0.05 and goes up in increments of $0.05. Now, however, there are companies that are trying (with SEC approval) to make the transition from quoting in nickels to pennies -- reducing the cost of options trading for investors/traders and hopefully adding liquidity to the market by making it more attractive.

Mind you, most standarized options are traded in 100 share increments so a $0.05 option would cost $5.00 anyway...

So we could use stocks as currency? Those, if worked a lot, might work for the purpose. That would really put an exclamation point on our corporate economy. Now I'm just saying ramdom things.

You would have to ask an older member, this change happened before I was born.

If any of you aussies are knowledgeable, please speak up. The only history I've taken is American and European, so I know very little of what happened in other places. Schools just don't offer such classes.:banghead:

I'm sure you have taken a history course on Australia, so maybe some of you guys would know a little about it.

I'm thinking the 1 and 2 ¢ coins over there were brought back for a reason. That reason would be why we keep our little copper coin.
 
They could round down, and offset the loss by not making pennies. 💡
We do live in the same country, don't we? If it came between rounding up to 10% or rounding down to 5% which do you think they will most likely do? I can even hear it now, "It is for the schools."

Here's a thought:
instead of wasting all that money making pennies, many of which end up in streams, or the sides of roads to never be seen again, why not take all the money that would be spent on pennies, and split it among the current penny donation regulars, like the salvation army, and just hand it to them.
At the least, they'll still get that charity, but at the best, they'll get more.
I doubt that the government would give it to the Salvation Amy. I imagine it will go to soem pork.

Besides, if you are going to save my tax money I would like it back, thank you. I will determine which charity to give it to.


Besides, if we get rid of teh penny what am I going to fill my 3-foot-tall Coca-Cola bottle penny bank with? When it is full I wantit to look like Coca-Cola, not Sprite. If I wanted that I would have bought a Sprite bottle.

We need a 1-cent piece. To get rid of it would be absolutely stupid. We just need to decide to make it out of something that's dirt-cheap.
It can be wood for all I care, as long as it is still brownish so my Coca-Cola bottle penny bank looks right.


On the bright side, if they eliminate the penny I imagine my penny bank will be a solid retirement in 30 years.
 
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We need a denomination smaller than 5 cents. It just doesn't make sense to have a currency that cannot facilitate the most miniscule values for exchange. (In english: Why have a system where you can't always make exact change?)

Yea! Bring on the half-cent piece!!! And the tenth-cent piece!!! and the 1/10000000000000 cent piece.

(see where I'm going with this?)
 
Yea! Bring on the half-cent piece!!!...
It's been done before, and it was comparatively huge. Then the mint finally got the bright idea to make a smaller cent (called a "penny" by legacy of the Loyalists, presumably), and ditch the "haypenny".

If we see the 20-cent piece again, we're going to heck in a bankbook.

If so many billions of pennies have been minted already, why can't they just be recirculated? People think every slightly odd coin or bill is a collectible, but nobody's really buying them ($2 bills aren't worth much more than $2, nor is a much-widely circulated 1976 quarter, for example). There's no point in making any more pennies. The last of any coin minted has never shown any significant increase in collectible price, save those coins in which only a tiny handful (think less than 50 in total) are minted.
 
If so many billions of pennies have been minted already, why can't they just be recirculated?
Because peopel lose them in sofa cushions, throwe them in ponds, or shove them in penny banks. The whole "Save teh Penny" campaign started by celebrities has been to get people to take their pennies and recircuilate them in an effort to save the penny by making it less necessary to print more.

The last of any coin minted has never shown any significant increase in collectible price, save those coins in which only a tiny handful (think less than 50 in total) are minted.
But if we lose them all?
 
But if we lose them all?
Then we're stupid idiots who can't be trusted with money.

How do we lose 20 billion one cent pieces? Crap, as soon as I get about one hundred of them, I wrap them up and take them to the bank.
 
So we could use stocks as currency? Those, if worked a lot, might work for the purpose. That would really put an exclamation point on our corporate economy. Now I'm just saying ramdom things.

Not exactly... you can sell your stocks for currency... but they're not a medium of exchange... they're certificates of ownership (ex: title to your car, deed to property or house).
 
I never said they were legal tender. I was saying cash is better than credit cards, because you can use it anywhere. Credit cards are limited in their acceptance.

What about steel for pennies, i.e. WWII? I'm pretty sure that's cheaper than copper.


Oh, I know. I was furthering your point. Would a penny cost less than 1 cent if they made it the size of a dime? They could put a hole in it or something...
 
Then we're stupid idiots who can't be trusted with money.

How do we lose 20 billion one cent pieces? Crap, as soon as I get about one hundred of them, I wrap them up and take them to the bank.
Just look down when you walk down the sidewalk and your question will be answered. If I am out and about on a Saturday I can usually take home about 30 cents in pennies aone. No one cares about them. I have actually seen people trying to get enough change for the vending machines tossing the pennies out of their hand and on to the ground.

At the risk of stereotyping: you live in Florida where there are a lot of retirees. You might not see it as often because they tend to penny pinch more, but get to where there aren't a large numbver of elderly and you see more people throwing pennies away than you see saving them. And by throwing away I mean that I have actually seen them go in the garbage.

It is easy to lose 20 billion of something when you don't care about it and toss it aside. If you want to make it useful again then make vending machines use it. I know I have been 5 cents short of a soda just because the machine won't take my five pennies. This kind of thing is the reason why I just stick my pennies in a giant penny bank. I only use my change at vending machines when I need a caffeine boost at work and the pennies are pointless for that.

Essentially, we lose pennies all the time because we don't care to keep them.
 
At the risk of stereotyping: you live in Florida where there are a lot of retirees. You might not see it as often because they tend to penny pinch more, but get to where there aren't a large number of elderly and you see more people throwing pennies away than you see saving them. And by throwing away I mean that I have actually seen them go in the garbage.
No, they're quite common on the ground here. I won't stop the parade (so to speak) to pick one up, but if I'm bending down tying my shoe, or just waiting around, I'll pick it up. I won't pick one out of a trash can or ashtray, but you get the idea. I think it's careless to throw out money, personally. I mean, it is worth something, however minuscule.

Some people just like to show off, as if tossing out 4 cents makes them look important. Call me cheap, but it's still money. Besides, I dislike having tons of loose change, so a penny here in my coin holder now in the car makes correct change later.

In any case, I don't think the penny is going extinct. Plenty to go around, no real reason to hoard it. People just like to hoard lots of worthless things, because they think everything is collectible. Even if the value of a penny's metals were worth, say... 1.5 cents, nobody's going to go around and offer more than face value for somebody's penny collection, since it would cost too much to melt them down. The copper component of a penny minted in the past 10-15 years is about 1-2%, and the rest is zinc. Surely a cheaper metal exists, like aluminum.

From my experience in Spain, the one peseta coin was rarely used, and people tended to round one way or the other, if needed. Most items didn't have sales tax, and items were sold in increments of 5 pesetas, anyhow. The exception was the fresh food market, where individual items were of such a small value, that the smallest possible unit of money was a bit more practical.

With most states in the US charging some percentage of sales tax, it's rare to see prices come to some exact price, especially when many items or services are sold with $x.99, $x.49 or $.95 at the end (you'd figure that old process would finally disappear by now), so the penny is hard to kill off. Also, try to convince people that they should always round up; it would be similar to another tax to some people, to expect another 1-4 cents.

In any case, if the "round up" technique were used, I believe that in 10 years, nobody would question it any further and the penny wouldn't be missed. I say this because with every sale tax increase, people stop complaining after a year's time. If the penny's production were to be halted, the US Mint could force the hand, and if the supply of pennies dried up, then people and businesses would have to comply. The argument the Federal Reserve could say is, "Well, there's enough for every man woman and child in the US to own about 100 of them."
 
here in brazil I barely even see pennies. if u buy something at a store, they either round it up or down. so i said scrap the penny.
 
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