What an absolutely stunning page guys!!!!!!! Really top shelf stuff from everyone. The progression in this thread in mind bottling
So, if you guys are able to drive there, my hunches are correct: they ARE modelling pretty much all of Tokyo. For those of you who don't know, Tokyo R246 and SSR5 etc. are ALL in Tokyo. SSR5 is a section of the C1 loop, with the streets that go underneath. SSR7 is a section of the Shinkanjo loop.
So, I won't complain, or tell you guys to quit with the "Haxorz n00bz t'ingz," but, instead, I'll congratulate you guys, on leaking GT6 content, perhaps. Tokyo IS one of the best driving cities, in the world, because of how incredibly twisty their highways are, and the elevation change etc., not to mention the lights, and the viewpoints etc., and the proximity to Polyphony Digital's headquarters (in Japan) and the large % of Japanese content in game. I think we can all rest assured, now, that Polyphony Digital is going to give us a whole big Tokyo map.
I too share a passion for the Tokyo highway system, and would LOVE to see it in a future GT game. Although I am very excited by your enthusiasm in regards to all of the Special Stage courses being modeled after real Japanese highways, I'm afraid you are incorrect.
To set the record straight:
Tokyo R246 is a track based on real Tokyo streets. The street that makes the main straight of that track is called R246 (hence the name of the track). It is a major street that runs through the heart of downtown Tokyo, but it is not part of the Shuto Toll Highway system. IIRC, Sony's headquarters are located on R246, and can be seen from the track in game. Most of the rest of the track in GT5 runs through a park.
The final sector of Tokyo R246 runs very close (above, beside, and below) part of the toll highway system. Here is a photo of the track, and it's relation to the toll highway system
The light blue line is Tokyo R246, as seen in GT5. The yellow is the
Shinjuku Line, which is part of the toll system. The dashed green line in the top right corner is the C1 loop. The black dashes show where the highway goes underground.
Now, here is another photo, this time from farther out. We can see much more of the highway system from here (best viewed in it's largest form, some of the colours are kind of hard to see, my apologies)
Light Blue - Tokyo R246
Upper Yellow - Shinjuku Route
Lower Yellow - Shibuya Route
Green - C1 Loop
Light Green - Yaesu Route
Purple - "New Loop Line", aka Shinkanjo Loop
Blue - Yokohane
Red - The Wangan, aka The Bayshore Route
The C1 is the oldest part of the highway system. It, along with the Shinkanjo Loop, form the heart of the highway system. The Shibuya and Shinjuku Lines are limbs that run from the city center to outlying regions (there are many more of these "limbs", these are the only two I'm really familiar with). The rainbow Bridge is one of the most famous landmarks on the Shutoku.
Here is another shot from even farther out that shows more of the Wangan and Yokohane Lines
The Wangan (shown in Red) is the most famous stretch of highway on the Shutoku. The reason it is so popular amongst street racers is because it is very long, has very subtle bends and curves, and most importantly, is 3 lanes wide in both directions. It is the only 6 lane stretch of highway in the whole Shutuko system....I'm not sure, but it may be the only 6 lane highway in Japan...
The Yokohane, which is also part of the Shutoku system, is used by racers to make a full loop out of the run up or down the Wangan. It is also an alternate route for getting from the city center down to Diakoku Futo.
Diakoku Futo is the largest, and probably most famous, Parking Area on the Shutoku Expressway system. Just search youtube for "Diakoku Futo Parking Area" and you'll see what I mean. Here is a google map photo of it. Immediately south of Diako Futo on the Wangan is the massive Yokohama Bay Bridge.
Sorry, I got a little side tracked...but ya, that's Tokyo R246 and the Shutuko Expressway system in Tokyo.
Now, your statement where you said
For those of you who don't know, Tokyo R246 and SSR5 etc. are ALL in Tokyo. SSR5 is a section of the C1 loop, with the streets that go underneath.
is completely false (as far as SSR5 is concerned). SSR5 is
NOT a section of the either the C1 Inner Loop, or C1 Outer Loop. The
background and scenery of SSR5 are somewhat of an imitation of Tokyo's night time scenery, but the actual track layout itself is not a copy of any Tokyo streets or highways. There is no section of SSR5 that is anything like any part of the C1.
Take a second to think about it....SSR5 makes absolutely zero sense in terms of functionality for a real city....
One other major difference between SSR5 and the C1 is the fact that the C1 is only two lanes running in each direction (keeping in mind that the path the two directions of the loop run are very different)...SSR5 is
four (4) lanes running in one direction.
The second part of that statement
SSR7 is a section of the Shinkanjo loop.
is also false. SSR7 is
NOT a section of the Shinkanjo Loop. Like the rest of the the Shutoku, all parts of the Shinkanjo are 2 lanes in either direction, not 3. At no time does the Shinkanjo Loop go through a long tunnel. The Shinkkanjo Loop has far more, and far sharper curves than SSR7. It also has quite significant elevation changes (second only to those on the C1).
In my opinion, SSR7 is very loosely based on the Wangan. But again, only in it's general feel, not in it's actual layout. Both have 3 lanes each direction, both go through tunnels for extended periods of time (although all the Wangan tunnels are a full 3 lanes), both go over a big bridge (the Yokohama Bay Bridge is much more impressive than the SSR7 one...). The tunnel on SSR7 is a poor imitation of the Wangan tunnels though. The long tunnel on Special Stage Route X actually looks quite a bit like the Wangan tunnels that go under the airport.
Ugh, 🤬 it, I've gone this far with this post. Here's link to a few videos of different sections of the Shutoku.
-The first one is of a full lap of the Shinkanjo Loop, going counter clock-wise.
2:42, he turns south down the main artery of the system. This stretch is the bit shared by both the C1 and the Shinkanjo.
4:26, he passes the turn off to the C1 Outter
5:13 to 5:30, he's going East on the Rainbow Bridge
6:19, he enters onto the Wangan, northbound.
The parking area he finishes in is the same one he started from...I think it's called Tatsumi Parking Area, but I'm not totally sure.
-This video is on the Wangan. Not sure exactly where, and not sure what direction they're going.
-One last video I just came across. Does a good job of showing just how out of this world Tokyo is at night. They start northbound on the Wangan, exit left to go West across the Rainbow Bridge, head towards the C1, go left again to follow the C1 Outter, and exit left off the C1 Outter onto the Shibuya Route. All the crazy lights near the end are from the Roppongi district.
This is super off topic I guess....nothing to do with drifting lol....but I had to set the record straight.
As far as those photos being evidence of a full model of Tokyo being in GT6, I think that's hogwash. I do believe that somewhere in GT's future, there will be an open free roam city or some sort. Perhaps in GT6, maybe not until 7 or 8...who really knows. But when it does come, I would bet almost anything that it will be a fictional city, not a model of a real one. The amount of detail that OCD Kaz would want to go into to accurately model a real city would cause them soooo many problems. Can you imagine how hard it would be to get licensing from everyone and everything in a city like Tokyo??? What about privacy laws? If it is in fact a fictional city, I would not be surprised to see all of the Special Stage track incorporated somehow.
Sorry for rambling >.<