Sick's Race Room - CLOSED - Thank you to all who participated

[Sick Cylinder]

Hi Guys - we have now tried one race with the Toyota 2000 GT at N300 and one at N200 - please indicate in the thread which you would prefer to race for the rest of the series - N300 or N200.

 

[half_sourly]

My vote goes to N300; the N200 is too tame.

 

[John Wells]

Same please, is it possible to lock rear axle, when engine braking? This happened a couple of times last night.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Is it possible to lock rear axle, when engine braking? This happened a couple of times last night.

Perhaps this is engine braking?

 

[half_sourly]

Same please, is it possible to lock rear axle, when engine braking? This happened a couple of times last night.

John, you should not need to use engine braking in a car with disc brakes, which the Toyota has. Shifting down should be about being in the correct gear for the next corner, not about slowing down the car. If you need a source with more authority, here is racing coach Ross Bentley:

"What is the real reason for downshifting? Many drivers think it’s to use the engine to help slow the car down. Wrong again! The engine is meant to increase your speed, not decrease it. In fact, by using the engine to slow the car you can actually hinder accurate brake modulation and balance. Race drivers, and good street drivers, downshift during the approach to a corner simply to be in the proper gear at the optimum engine rpm range and to allow maximum acceleration out of the corner."
Ultimate Speed Secrets (p. 18). Motorbooks International. Kindle Edition.​

 

[John Wells]

Shifting down should be about being in the correct gear for the next corner, not about slowing down the car. If you need a source with more authority, here is racing coach Ross Bentley:

Thanks Half, will give that a try, when I was approaching spoon curve, back end came round and spun.
Engine braking works well in my bike games mind, didn't know this car had disc brakes.

 

[half_sourly]

T..when I was approaching spoon curve, back end came round and spun.

I suspect that is more about weight transfer than engine braking. With the softer suspension on these older cars, when you come off the throttle and brake, all the weight shifts to the front of the car, meaning less traction for the rear tyres. If you then introduce steering angle, the rear may come around on you. It is not the axle locking up, just the light rear wanting to carry on in the direction it was going (see Newton).

The solution is to apply a little bit (like 10%) of throttle, to push some weight back to the rear. It takes some getting used to, but works well. If you saved last nights game, do a replay from the car of say Simba, put on the Race Info you can see brakes and accelerator inputs, then see what he does into and through corners like Spoon or First Turn.

 

[IfAndOr]

Which is nearest to the real life race specs?


@John Wells switch the ABS on, it's not defeat, you'll be able to slow down much easier without any need for engine braking. In PC2 I can usually stop the cars that don't have ABS (I use it if the real car has it), but in GTS, generally, I have little chance of preventing lockups. There's such a fine line between the wheels rotating and them not! There are a few exceptions, lighter cars mainly. I try the weak setting sometimes but usually end up going with the default setting that most other people use. Zero ABS takes a very long time to master. Default (or maybe weak) ABS will be more enjoyable I'm sure. It's not the Zero Cup, remember those?

Also as a afterthought - you might need to move the brake balance forward a little.

 

[Don Mejillone]

N300 !

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Next Round: Monza (with chicanes) N300 with Sports Medium tyres - enjoy!

 

[half_sourly]

with Sports Medium tyres

Christmas is not cancelled after all!

 

[IfAndOr]

Christmas is not cancelled after all!

I asked Santa for some race super softs. But hey, it's probably been a difficult year for him sourcing supplies. Tricky things to hang on the end of the bed too. Plus getting them down the chimney would be a challenge!!!

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Christmas is not cancelled after all!

Hopefully we don't have this problem tonight:

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-server-instability-20201117/

 

[IfAndOr]

Hopefully we don't have this problem tonight:

Recent reports suggest that it seems to have stabilized. 👍
It was probably your switch to sport medium tyres that did it.

 

[half_sourly]

Results from Monza:

Race 1:

Race 2:

Leaderboard:

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Next Round - 25th November - is at Willow Springs (Big Willow) - there are SPACES available for anyone who would like to join us!

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Hi guys - unfortunately I have got Covid 19 and I'm not feeling well enough to race today - perhaps someone else can host tonight - the round is at Willow Springs (Big Willow).

Next week we will do Autopolis - I will let you know if I am fit enough next week - thanks guys and I hope you have a good race tonight!

 

[half_sourly]

Hi Sick, Really sorry to hear your news and I hope you recover quickly.

I'll host tonight.

 

[GTP_Guido]

Best wishes Sick and have a speedy recovery

 

[John Wells]

Have speedy recovery Sick.

 

[Harsk100]

Hi guys - unfortunately I have got Covid 19 and I'm not feeling well enough to race today - perhaps someone else can host tonight - the round is at Willow Springs (Big Willow).

Next week we will do Autopolis - I will let you know if I am fit enough next week - thanks guys and I hope you have a good race tonight!

It's very sad to hear that you have Covid-19. Get well soon!

 

[IfAndOr]

Hi guys - unfortunately I have got Covid 19

Yes that is indeed unfortunate. Let's hope for some time off work with mild symptoms while being isolated in a room with your PS4.

Hopefully see you back on track soon. 👍

 

[half_sourly]

Results from Big Willow:

Race 1:

Race 2:

Leaderboard:

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Let's hope for some time off work with mild symptoms while being isolated in a room with your PS4.

Yes - I am isolating in the PS4 room - it's warm with a comfortable sofa and a big TV, but I haven't felt like gaming - just Netflix and sleeping and endless phone calls from NHS track and trace!

Apparently there is a free trial on F1 2020 at the moment -probably too fast a game for me though.

Thanks to all for your kind thoughts. Mrs Cylinder also has the Covid - I'm just hoping that we can both get through this ok!

 

[buybon355]

Best wishes to you and the family sick

 

[IfAndOr]

Mrs Cylinder also has the Covid - I'm just hoping that we can both get through this ok!

It is a very contagious blighter, that seems to be its trick. Although it can be a nasty ailment the majority of people do get over it. Here's hoping you're both amongst those. Keep on fighting the good fight and keep us updated on the situation - if you feel like it of course.

 

[half_sourly]

Round 5 of the series is today at Autopolis. I will open the room at around 8pm UK for practice until 8.35pm, then we'll have 8 minutes of qualifying and two 15-minute races.

 

[half_sourly]

Results from Autopolis:

Race 1:

Race 2:

Leaderboard:

 

[half_sourly]

With @Sick Cylinder still recovering, unless he intervenes between now and tomorrow (I've sent him a note) I'll run a race this week at Brands Hatch GP for the Toyota 2000 GT Championship. Same format as the last couple of weeks:

• Practice room opens around 8pm UK time
• Start at 8:35pm with an 8 minute qualifying session
• Then two 15 minute races

It remains N300 on BOP.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

With @Sick Cylinder still recovering, unless he intervenes between now and tomorrow (I've sent him a note) I'll run a race this week at Brands Hatch GP for the Toyota 2000 GT Championship. Same format as the last couple of weeks:

• Practice room opens around 8pm UK time
• Start at 8:35pm with an 8 minute qualifying session
• Then two 15 minute races

It remains N300 on BOP.

Thanks Half - I am mostly better now - just a bit tired - so should be racing again next week. Thanks very much for hosting and thanks to you all for keeping things going!