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Oh I thought that was from last week
SNAIL Division 2 March 2023 Season
- Thread starter Skills
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- saber_stance
Oh ok
- 1,176
- Burnaby, BC
- canoworms1
I'll do texting on race nights.
- 1,176
- Burnaby, BC
- canoworms1
My grinding for dollars: Sardegna Road Track; World Touring Car 800. 26 minute race. 727 500 credits with clean race bonus.
Car I use (there are many possible) Honda NSX GT500 on RH tires. Fuel map= 3, except 1 at the start to get past the 911 at least. While Difficulty=Easy doesn't change the payout, the AI drivers are complete idiots and require a certain finesse to not whack into. I use Difficulty=Hard and the AIs are much better drivers. The win here is due to a 1 stop strategy where the rest are 2 stoppers and many do 3. Pit lap 9 for tires and 6 laps of fuel.
- 1,176
- Burnaby, BC
- canoworms1
Data Specialists report for Mar 19/23
All in all I observed close, clean racing in my replay viewing. There were, however, some lapses in etiquette and even the filing of an IR or 2. We are losing our tightest combo, Mazda Roadster @ Road Atlanta, where FL times were within 1.5 seconds. In Round 1 all drivers were very consistent in their lap times race 1 to race 2. Round 3 was also closely contested, with 5 drivers in the 1:46s and another 5 in the 1:48s. Not bad out of 12 drivers, including a brand new addition. Welcome @MatteBlac 🥳
All this made for some exciting racing Sunday night. The Roadster at Road Atlanta produced both lows and highs. Low: Corner rights infractions. The high: the battle between @Saber_stance and @JLBowler R2R1 laps 3 - 8. This battle resulted in our first award of the night going to JLBowler for the "Best Manufactured Pass". R2R1 Lap 6, turn 10 JL shows his nose inside Saber who has a shaky corner, while JL, who had no intention of trying an our braking maneuver, executes a clean chicane, with good exit speed and makes the pass on exit. Well done.
Our second award goes to Canoworms. Cano gets the "I-have-to-stop-watching-replays" award for noticing he exceeded track limits while setting the combo FL at Daytona, and then filing an IR on themselves to have that time deleted.
That brings us to the OLR of the week:
The SNAIL OLR
Read it. Learn it. Live it.
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6: Corner Rights:
A: You must establish sufficient overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner’s turn-in point to have the right to drive up alongside, or to expect them to leave room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver’s position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was not substantial overlap before he turned in. The ahead driver must not abruptly change their line through a corner for any reason.
In my limited viewing of replays I saw an improvement in track re-entry. Still not perfect, but much improved. However, as noted earlier, I saw considerable diving to the inside of corners without proper observation of the above rule. To see what I'm talking about R2R2 at Road Atlanta, turn 1 and through the esses, laps 1 and 2 have plenty of examples. Sadly, I'm front and center when I tapped Gurney in turn 1 of lap 1. It is lap 1; I'm trying to avoid people; I didn't realize how large the effect was until I watched the replay, too late to file an IR. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I see two ways drivers break this rule. 1) Very late out brake attempt and dive to the apex resulting in a collision with the ahead driver. Once the leading driver has made their turn into the corner anyone without a well established overlap has no right to inside room. 2) Close racing where a following driver sticks their nose inside at a corner and executes the PIT maneuver (Precision Immobilization Technique), a police maneuver to spin out a car doing the above. Having your front bumper just inside my rear bumper is definitely not "Substantial overlap".
There was tight racing up and down the field. I was involved in some great ones for the likes of 1st, or 5th, sometimes 10th or 11th. I like to play the field. 😁 While @racingchamp30 may be the one to chase, 8 drivers had podium finishes on Sunday. Again, not bad out of 12 drivers. We have some good combos coming this week and I get a chance to redeem myself at Daytona, no more exceeding track limits. 😇
All in all I observed close, clean racing in my replay viewing. There were, however, some lapses in etiquette and even the filing of an IR or 2. We are losing our tightest combo, Mazda Roadster @ Road Atlanta, where FL times were within 1.5 seconds. In Round 1 all drivers were very consistent in their lap times race 1 to race 2. Round 3 was also closely contested, with 5 drivers in the 1:46s and another 5 in the 1:48s. Not bad out of 12 drivers, including a brand new addition. Welcome @MatteBlac 🥳
All this made for some exciting racing Sunday night. The Roadster at Road Atlanta produced both lows and highs. Low: Corner rights infractions. The high: the battle between @Saber_stance and @JLBowler R2R1 laps 3 - 8. This battle resulted in our first award of the night going to JLBowler for the "Best Manufactured Pass". R2R1 Lap 6, turn 10 JL shows his nose inside Saber who has a shaky corner, while JL, who had no intention of trying an our braking maneuver, executes a clean chicane, with good exit speed and makes the pass on exit. Well done.
Our second award goes to Canoworms. Cano gets the "I-have-to-stop-watching-replays" award for noticing he exceeded track limits while setting the combo FL at Daytona, and then filing an IR on themselves to have that time deleted.
That brings us to the OLR of the week:
The SNAIL OLR
Read it. Learn it. Live it.
* * * * * * * * * * * * *
6: Corner Rights:
A: You must establish sufficient overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner’s turn-in point to have the right to drive up alongside, or to expect them to leave room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver’s position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was not substantial overlap before he turned in. The ahead driver must not abruptly change their line through a corner for any reason.
In my limited viewing of replays I saw an improvement in track re-entry. Still not perfect, but much improved. However, as noted earlier, I saw considerable diving to the inside of corners without proper observation of the above rule. To see what I'm talking about R2R2 at Road Atlanta, turn 1 and through the esses, laps 1 and 2 have plenty of examples. Sadly, I'm front and center when I tapped Gurney in turn 1 of lap 1. It is lap 1; I'm trying to avoid people; I didn't realize how large the effect was until I watched the replay, too late to file an IR. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I see two ways drivers break this rule. 1) Very late out brake attempt and dive to the apex resulting in a collision with the ahead driver. Once the leading driver has made their turn into the corner anyone without a well established overlap has no right to inside room. 2) Close racing where a following driver sticks their nose inside at a corner and executes the PIT maneuver (Precision Immobilization Technique), a police maneuver to spin out a car doing the above. Having your front bumper just inside my rear bumper is definitely not "Substantial overlap".
There was tight racing up and down the field. I was involved in some great ones for the likes of 1st, or 5th, sometimes 10th or 11th. I like to play the field. 😁 While @racingchamp30 may be the one to chase, 8 drivers had podium finishes on Sunday. Again, not bad out of 12 drivers. We have some good combos coming this week and I get a chance to redeem myself at Daytona, no more exceeding track limits. 😇
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- saber_stance
- 1,746
- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
Do you ever see examples of excellent race craft?Data Specialists report for Mar 19/23
All in all I observed close, clean racing in my replay viewing. There were, however, some lapses in etiquette and even the filing of an IR or 2. We are losing our tightest combo, Mazda Roadster @ Road Atlanta, where FL times were within 1.5 seconds. In Round 1 all drivers were very consistent in their lap times race 1 to race 2. Round 3 was also closely contested, with 5 drivers in the 1:46s and another 5 in the 1:48s. Not bad out of 12 drivers, including a brand new addition. Welcome @MatteBlac 🥳
All this made for some exciting racing Sunday night. The Roadster at Road Atlanta produced both lows and highs. Low: Corner rights infractions. The high: the battle between @Saber_stance and @JLBowler R2R1 laps 3 - 8. This battle resulted in our first award of the night going to JLBowler for the "Best Manufactured Pass". R2R1 Lap 6, turn 10 JL shows his nose inside Saber who has a shaky corner, while JL, who had no intention of trying an our braking maneuver, executes a clean chicane, with good exit speed and makes the pass on exit. Well done.
Our second award goes to Canoworms. Cano gets the "I-have-to-stop-watching-replays" award for noticing he exceeded track limits while setting the combo FL at Daytona, and then filing an IR on themselves to have that time deleted.
That brings us to the OLR of the week:
The SNAIL OLR
Read it. Learn it. Live it.
* * * * * * * * * * * * *
6: Corner Rights:
A: You must establish sufficient overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner’s turn-in point to have the right to drive up alongside, or to expect them to leave room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver’s position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was not substantial overlap before he turned in. The ahead driver must not abruptly change their line through a corner for any reason.
In my limited viewing of replays I saw an improvement in track re-entry. Still not perfect, but much improved. However, as noted earlier, I saw considerable diving to the inside of corners without proper observation of the above rule. To see what I'm talking about R2R2 at Road Atlanta, turn 1 and through the esses, laps 1 and 2 have plenty of examples. Sadly, I'm front and center when I tapped Gurney in turn 1 of lap 1. It is lap 1; I'm trying to avoid people; I didn't realize how large the effect was until I watched the replay, too late to file an IR. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I see two ways drivers break this rule. 1) Very late out brake attempt and dive to the apex resulting in a collision with the ahead driver. Once the leading driver has made their turn into the corner anyone without a well established overlap has no right to inside room. 2) Close racing where a following driver sticks their nose inside at a corner and executes the PIT maneuver (Precision Immobilization Technique), a police maneuver to spin out a car doing the above. Having your front bumper just inside my rear bumper is definitely not "Substantial overlap".
There was tight racing up and down the field. I was involved in some great ones for the likes of 1st, or 5th, sometimes 10th or 11th. I like to play the field. 😁 While @racingchamp30 may be the one to chase, 8 drivers had podium finishes on Sunday. Again, not bad out of 12 drivers. We have some good combos coming this week and I get a chance to redeem myself at Daytona, no more exceeding track limits. 😇
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- saber_stance
Yea
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- saber_stance
It's rare tho why
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- saber_stance
Yeah I already have the Ford GT
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- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
I was actually replying to @MatteBlac was able to buy the ‘18 GT Race car.
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- saber_stance
Oh ok
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- saber_stance
Is there going to be a practice lobby up soon
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- Aurora, CO
- Skills_19657
I heard saber was opening one.
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- saber_stance
Who
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- saber_stance
I'm sorry for rage quitting but on my screen I didn't even hit the tire wall and it just stopped my car instantly so I just got mad my apologies so if you want to put me dnf or whatever you can but that just really pissed me off cuz I didn't even hit the wall
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- saber_stance
Yeah I was so happy bro and then I just hit the invisible wall I mean I'm not that mad anymore but it like really pissed me off I might as well just get a PC and move on to the Iracing lol
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- gurney_67
Not a good night for me... just finished filing 3 reports on myself! ugh...
Perfect timing for a couple of weeks off... I'll be out of town for the next two weeks, so I'll miss you all. Hopefully a deep breath will get me back onto a cleaner path... Talk soon
Perfect timing for a couple of weeks off... I'll be out of town for the next two weeks, so I'll miss you all. Hopefully a deep breath will get me back onto a cleaner path... Talk soon
- 1,176
- Burnaby, BC
- canoworms1
Data Specialist Report for March 29, 2023
If you've read what I've said here and then watched me on track...all I can say is: "Do as I say, not as I do.' 😇
And secondly, "Just because I know what to do doesn't mean I know how to do it." 😇
Spoken like the true retired teacher that I am.
Last week I mentioned two ways the PIT maneuver could be executed. On Sunday I discovered it can also be executed while in front; R1R1, lap 1 turn 2. I meant to leave room for @JamCar0ne but I should have left LOTS of room.
The "Best Start" prize goes to @CdnSweetTee for her massive starts round 2. And without TCS! You rock. R2R1 Tee pass 2 cars before turn 1, Nay! before the end of the pit wall. I have learned a lesson. Even though Snail must allow TCS due to a GT7 glitch it is good to see that TCS is not the universal panacea some hope for.
Speaking of lessons learned; Pushing rpms isn't always the best way. Because I'm a bit anal I pay attention to the following:
This is the HP and torque curve for the BMW M2, which can be found under the "ECU' tab on the detailed data sheet for each car. Each data point is a 500 rpm change. Important features: 1) Max HP is at 5500 rpm and is constant to 7000. 2) At 5000 rpm torque is at maximum and HP is the same as 7500. 3) Not shown here, but the rpm drop during shifts is not great. Result: Short shift. I was shifting at 7000 rpm (half way up the HUD) last Sunday, and while Tee was able to gain at the start, I was able to gain on all the long straights.
I'm looking forward to implementing some of the lessons I've learned. I've got the "What", now I have to improve the "How". 🥳
If you've read what I've said here and then watched me on track...all I can say is: "Do as I say, not as I do.' 😇
And secondly, "Just because I know what to do doesn't mean I know how to do it." 😇
Spoken like the true retired teacher that I am.
Last week I mentioned two ways the PIT maneuver could be executed. On Sunday I discovered it can also be executed while in front; R1R1, lap 1 turn 2. I meant to leave room for @JamCar0ne but I should have left LOTS of room.
The "Best Start" prize goes to @CdnSweetTee for her massive starts round 2. And without TCS! You rock. R2R1 Tee pass 2 cars before turn 1, Nay! before the end of the pit wall. I have learned a lesson. Even though Snail must allow TCS due to a GT7 glitch it is good to see that TCS is not the universal panacea some hope for.
Speaking of lessons learned; Pushing rpms isn't always the best way. Because I'm a bit anal I pay attention to the following:
This is the HP and torque curve for the BMW M2, which can be found under the "ECU' tab on the detailed data sheet for each car. Each data point is a 500 rpm change. Important features: 1) Max HP is at 5500 rpm and is constant to 7000. 2) At 5000 rpm torque is at maximum and HP is the same as 7500. 3) Not shown here, but the rpm drop during shifts is not great. Result: Short shift. I was shifting at 7000 rpm (half way up the HUD) last Sunday, and while Tee was able to gain at the start, I was able to gain on all the long straights.
I'm looking forward to implementing some of the lessons I've learned. I've got the "What", now I have to improve the "How".
🥳
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JamCar0ne
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- JamCar0ne
How did you determine the spacing of the 'data points' on the X axis?
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- Marcus__Garvey
They're all 500rpm intervals. It's easier to see when there is an actual curve that you can identify the points.
There is a lot at play in determining ideal shift points, but reviewing the dyno graph is a great start.
There is a lot at play in determining ideal shift points, but reviewing the dyno graph is a great start.
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- Burnaby, BC
- canoworms1
- 1,176
- Burnaby, BC
- canoworms1
I can try. I've never hosted a Sunday night. @racingchamp30
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