Solution for enzo understeer?

[Marcelo1994]

The car just understeer a lot. What can i do?

 

[No_OBsT33R]

The car just understeer a lot. What can i do?

Buy a 458 Italia.... Just kidding.

If you need help post the settings your working from or use a posted set up (I'm sure a few enzos available) then take it from there.

 

[Counter_Z23]

Lower front ride height and LSD values.

 

[Wagner]

Sounds silly, but brake a bit more. Worked for me.

EDIT: Crackin' Tune..... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4666066

 

[Basilea]

USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION there are 9 tunes for the Enzo!

 

[br1x]

lower front hide results in even more understeer and the setup from rkm didn't work that well.

i think you should play around with ballast and you should lower the downforce a bit.

 

[racer39658]

What problems did you have with the RKM tune? Also, describe the understeer you are getting, and if you are using any driving assists... the thing has so much HP, that it WILL go wide if you get on the gas too early on corner exit. It's just a matter of tire limits combined with speed and corner radius.

 

[br1x]

it was only a little bit better than in stock form, it just doesn't turn when your on the throttle (that's called understeering) and i don't use any driving assists except abs 1

i played around with ballast and lower aero and it was improved a bit, but not by much and i was too lazy to keep trying because the success was so minimal

 

[Rotary Junkie]

The Enzo is a pig and will generally remain such. There's only so much that can be done with it sadly.

My main problem was actually understeer on entry rather than on-throttle... Still, too fast at any point of the corner and it'll be the front end that meets the wall first.

 

[Adrenaline]

Increase the LSD Accel, and lower the rear ride height.

 

[jgda9rs]

run the front a bit lower and the rear suspension harder.
use a rear biased setup overall. that should cure the problem.

 

[br1x]

= more understeer

 

[veyron1001]

Increase the LSD Accel, and lower the rear ride height.

This will cause powersliding and then snap oversteer so disreguard this post.

 

[Adrenaline]

This will cause powersliding and then snap oversteer so disreguard this post.

That's one hell of a blanket statement.

 

[X3rx3s44]

Lower front ride height and LSD values.

= More understeer... By lowering the front ride height relative to the rear, which you are suggesting, moves the center of gravity towards to front of the car more thus putting more weight over the front wheels. Thus, increased understeer. 👎

Increase the LSD Accel, and lower the rear ride height.

I like this suggestion! 👍 Lower rear of car relative to the front to take weight off the front wheels that is causing the pushing (understeer) through the corners. I personally would not change the LSD Accel value as I would prefer throttle modulation to mechancial modulation of rotational differences between the wheels but that is 100% driver preference. 👍 Additionally, by using the LSD to "control" wheelspin it does present the issue of increasing understeer until the tyres "let go" then causing rapid (snap) oversteer if the throttle is not correctly modulated, but again, that is driver preference and driving style that cause this.

run the front a bit lower and the rear suspension harder.
use a rear biased setup overall. that should cure the problem.

= More understeer... Again! Refer above for explanation.

= more understeer

+1 👍

 

[oppositelock]

= More understeer... By lowering the front ride height relative to the rear, which you are suggesting, moves the center of gravity towards to front of the car more thus putting more weight over the front wheels. Thus, increased understeer. 👎

It might move the center of gravity forward a fraction of a percent, but what about the reduced lateral weight transfer which results in less load on the outside front tire? Not that I care that much, since using rake to balance a car is poor technique imo.

 

[X3rx3s44]

It might move the center of gravity forward a fraction of a percent, but what about the reduced lateral weight transfer which results in less load on the outside front tire? Not that I care that much, since using rake to balance a car is poor technique imo.

This is true. 👍
However, it depends very greatly on at what point in the corner you are trying to eliminate understeer...

If understeer is on corner entry, having the rear lower relative to the front is worse as the lateral weight transfer will put alot of load on the front tyres thus pushing the car wide initially but as you get on the power mid-late corner it will remove this weight as the lateral weight transfers back to the rear under power.

If understeer is mid-late corner under power, having the rear lower relative to the front will be beneficial as the lateral weight transfer you speak of puts more weight over the back wheels thus reducing understeer as you are under power.
My suggestion was referring to understeer mid-late corner under power as this is where I have noticed the Enzo struggle most significantly. I find if you tune a car to be good from the apex (mid) out (late) of a turn then you can usually adjust driving style to suit said understeer on turn-in.

After all, the fastest way around a track is, "slow in, fast out". 👍
Thus, reducing the rear ride height relative to the front will help mid-late turn and you can just try going a little slower into the corners to combat understeer on initial turn-in. It is much more significant to be fast coming off corners than it is going into them.

 

[PIGBOY]

This is true. 👍
However, it depends very greatly on at what point in the corner you are trying to eliminate understeer...

If understeer is on corner entry, having the rear lower relative to the front is worse as the lateral weight transfer will put alot of load on the front tyres thus pushing the car wide initially but as you get on the power mid-late corner it will remove this weight as the lateral weight transfers back to the rear under power.

If understeer is mid-late corner under power, having the rear lower relative to the front will be beneficial as the lateral weight transfer you speak of puts more weight over the back wheels thus reducing understeer as you are under power.
My suggestion was referring to understeer mid-late corner under power as this is where I have noticed the Enzo struggle most significantly. I find if you tune a car to be good from the apex (mid) out (late) of a turn then you can usually adjust driving style to suit said understeer on turn-in.

After all, the fastest way around a track is, "slow in, fast out". 👍
Thus, reducing the rear ride height relative to the front will help mid-late turn and you can just try going a little slower into the corners to combat understeer on initial turn-in. It is much more significant to be fast coming off corners than it is going into them.

Can u work your wonders on a FGT online around fuji?
Dont know if its in the wrong forum but i seen this post here so i try.
thanks

 

[PIGBOY]

The reason i first viewed this thread was to help with the seasonal event just out for Ferrari's.Hieght adjust sus,lower the rear a tad,its like a drift car around indy road course,thanks.

 

[TheFlyingKiwi]

Tuning Guides

Reading this will give a lot of insight into a car's physics during cornering and how to set-up a car

 

[dr_slump]

Here's the easiest way:

Suspension
Front: everything max.
Rear: everything min.

Understeer problem is 100% solved!

 

[praiano63]

I've worked a lot on this Ferrari Enzo, several times i had to remake the tune, but i only stay satisfy using ballast like this, on my new tune. Now it have a real good Ferrari handling. Try it and tell me.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5292614#post5292614