Something has to be done about the comically small battery capacity of electric cars

[RobertHammer]

I tested the ID.R myself and the battery lasted 2.5 laps - 52km of regular Nurburgring (not the 24h one) on 1x fuel

that seems pretty much spot on

 

[rb26dettNUR]

If this were true to life the ID.R wouldn't even make it through one lap at Nurburgring....

Same goes with Gr1 Hybrid Cars.

 

[Magog]

EVs are (probably) the future and I applaud PD for taking a few into the game to show the kids they can be fast and cool, but highlighting their shortcomings is the exact opposite of that.

I would love to be able to buy a "battery expansion pack" for the ID.R (or the other EVs) in the tuning shop.
Make it expensive (a million or so), make it heavy (250kg for 3x the range?, the ID.R can take the extra weight), I don't care.

Give us a few dedicated EV single player events or even a championship without fuel multiplier or even without fuel comsumption at all.

/rant, thanks for humouring me.

All good ideas. Or let you adjust the output similarly to fuel mapping.

 

[Techlet]

Is the battery capacity accurate to real life? Somewhat.

But then where are we expected to actually be able to use all these EVs in the game? Because we definitely can't use them in the whopping four events that are worth our time.

 

[eXtender]

Is the battery capacity accurate to real life? Somewhat.

But then where are we expected to actually be able to use all these EVs in the game? Because we definitely can't use them in the whopping four events that are worth our time.

The Audi e-tron VGT is useful-ish in some of the 800PP races, but I'm an Audi nut so I'm biased.

 

[MIE1992]

To be fair, there are several ICE vehicles in this game that are relatively useless outside of custom or arcade same-make races, etc.

Personally, I could care less about the EV cars in the game or VGT for that matter as they don't really do anything for me. However, what I would like to see are more options on tracks and championships that let us explore all of the cars in GT7 (including EV's).

Agreed. I'd love more events that incentivize the use as wide of a variety of vehicles as possible. Like some Gr.1 events that could be more specifically limited to Group C racers, or perhaps the LMP1 cars of the late 00s/early 10s, and so on.

 

[BWM]

Is the battery capacity accurate to real life? Somewhat.

But then where are we expected to actually be able to use all these EVs in the game? Because we definitely can't use them in the whopping four events that are worth our time.

This one?

(Coupe version are fine too)
And Le Mans 700pp is possible with the Audi VGT depends on weather pattern.

Didn't tried the other two I'm more interested in mid to low pp cars.

 

[Techlet]

I mainly do Sardegna and Le Mans. The ID.R for example can barely do 2 laps of Sardegna. Same with most of the other high PP electric VGTs the game's given me.

There's a few notable exceptions like the Audi, but the vast majority are not really usable against a field of Gr 3/Gr 4 cars.

 

[05XR8]

The top speed hurts the most. I've run the i3 in the Tsukuba race and it has good acceleration, but is swamped on the back straight.

 

[eran0004]

Is the battery capacity accurate to real life? Somewhat.

But then where are we expected to actually be able to use all these EVs in the game? Because we definitely can't use them in the whopping four events that are worth our time.

It depends on why you play the game, I guess. They’re not very useful for grinding credits, but if you just want to have a fun race you can create your own events.

 

[RobertHammer]

GT7 EV battle top speed , if you are curious which one is the fastest in the game

 

[Techlet]

It depends on why you play the game, I guess. They’re not very useful for grinding credits, but if you just want to have a fun race you can create your own events.

You must really enjoy one-make races against AI that are incapable of going full throttle then because that's all the game allows you to do with #electric cars in a Custom Race.

 

[MIE1992]

I'd be totally down for a "BMW i3 Cup" event via a Bonus Menu or something. Otherwise, I really would've preferred that Jaguar make the VGT SV a hybrid so that it could've gone into Gr.1 alongside the older XJR-9. But because it's purely an EV - an otherwise admirable choice of powertrain - it's ineligible. Jaguar should've done what Hyundai, Dodge, Audi, and McLaren did, where there was the "original" version of it, and a hybrid/ICE version for Gr.1.

 

[05XR8]

We can group them as such, but only for the AI to use. Once we select an EV, the grid defaults to One Make racing. Unfortunately.

For the Manufacturers, PD could have asked brands, not represented, to create modern Gr.1 cars. Maybe PD did or didn’t. Maybe it was too much for which ever way Kaz wanted this game to go.
I guess sticking it in Nations doesn’t matter. It’s an easy way not to deal with creating certain cars for classes. I don’t know.

 

[Taxrik]

The Audi E-Tron VGT is my money grinder on the Sardenga 800 - bit of lift and coasting at the end of the straights and the battery lasts almost exactly 5 laps putting you on a two stopper doing sub 1.40 laps on RH tyres. It’s a beast, and with all those windmills, the recharge is really cheap!

(I often wonder if the battery and performance of the E-tron is true to life though as it was originally a VGT that was then built as a show/promo car I think?)

 

[Monkdapunk]

I find most hybrid vehicles a no go. The power drains fast and hardly regenerates so it's gone in a lap or two. So there's all that pp gone and it doesn't get replenished when you pit either. Might aswell just think of it as nitrous at that point. Having a way to control the electric systems power implementation like a fuel map would be nice.

 

[05XR8]

I find most hybrid vehicles a no go. The power drains fast and hardly regenerates so it's gone in a lap or two. So there's all that pp gone and it doesn't get replenished when you pit either. Might aswell just think of it as nitrous at that point. Having a way to control the electric systems power implementation like a fuel map would be nice.

That and drain in tandem with the fuel or recharge a percentage per lap. Similar to race series that add boost per lap.

 

[kjeldsen]

A small point of political sarcasm... All this discovery of the uselessness of EVs as being realistically portrayed in the game... Must really make the progressives among us very angry! "But EVs are the answer to everything about climate change!"

Yes, a generalization, and I'm being sarcastic, but I simply cannot fault PD's portrayal of them, as the shortcomings they have IRL are exactly what everyone is complaining about in this thread

So let's continue being lazy and complacent because we have to charge our cars every 200-300 miles and just accept we are depending on dictators and their fossil fuels until the earth is burning and we die fat and exhausted from countless wars we have to fight.

Sounds like a plan!

 

[wfooshee]

Well, that escalated quickly... I even made every effort to point out that I was being sarcastic!

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

With the fuel mutliplier at 1, I tested the Porsche VGT Spyder, since it has a range indicator on the dashboard.
Tearing around the Tokyo East at full pelt, the range is about 78km, which is fair enough given the 600kW it's putting down.

If you cruise around at 100km/h, you'll find the real-world sensible driving range is around 280km, which seems reasonable for an electric hypercar, though I'd think Porsche would want to aim higher than that. I'll have to test the Taycan some time to compare.

It's easier to measure range with ICE cars, where the MFD tells you how many laps you have in the tank. I tried the Mazda6/Atenza diesel at 1x fuel at the same track, I forget how many laps it said could do at full speed, 40 to 60ish, but cruising it could easily do 110+ laps of Tokyo East, for a realistic 800+km range, maybe up to 1000.

 

[pedrocor]

On the record breaking Nurb run, VW stated that configuration of the ID.R used 55% of it's battery capacity.

Regenerative braking is also a factor, as the ID.R uses that tech to extend range, which is to say that if it only used 55% of its battery on the 'Ring, how much of that remaining 55% was regained through the regenerative braking?

I seriously doubt that, at least according to the onboards on the YouTube with telemetry.
At the beginning of the lap is frequent the ID R reaching several times speeds around 272/273 km/h on fast sections.
By the end of the lap, on the huge straight, despite the driver going full throttle, the speed was always oscillating between 242/248 km/h, going to 250 km/h by just a instant right before the left kink at the end of it.
Clearly the batteries weren't at full deployment by the end of the lap, for some reason it was on a very conservative mode

 

[Saargasm]

GT7 EV battle top speed , if you are curious which one is the fastest in the game

Nice share! But didn't realize how low the top end speeds are aside from the last 2-3 cars tested. Months ago I recall trying the Jag SV one in Sardegna and thought, "whoa, this is awesome!" and then I was empty before the end of lap 2 and just quit lol