Spa -vs- The Nurburgring
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gthead01
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- LGHead, GTHead01, ldgracer01
I have recently mastered the elegant beast we call the Ring. Can finally run consistantly under 7:00 in many cars.
Was chomping at the bit to get my hands on Spa. I have been hot lapping and one making Spa non-stop since I bought it, and am in love with it. Just took my M3 GTR out on the Ring a few minutes ago, and was back at home. The Ring it is.
Was chomping at the bit to get my hands on Spa. I have been hot lapping and one making Spa non-stop since I bought it, and am in love with it. Just took my M3 GTR out on the Ring a few minutes ago, and was back at home. The Ring it is.
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- Paddy05HDT
It doesn't matter what people say about Nurburgring being better, the fact is that it simply isn't, well, at least not in GT5. The Nurburgring is fantastic, and I love it, but for the purpose of testing and comparing, it's just too long; on top of it being much too narrow to have an enjoyable race i.e. If someone is ahead of you on the Nordschleife and is slower, it is torture for you because in a whole lap you can count the passing spots on one hand. Spa however, is perfect. Not only does it look fantastic in the game, but it is bang on real-life. It is the perfect length for a test track, and even more so as a race track. It is wide enough to pass anywhere, and combines so many different aspects of a car that you don't get needledick's beating everyone in the Elise 111R or GTR SpecV. I love Spa, and am really happy it's now on GT.
Neither of them are Bathurst though!
Neither of them are Bathurst though!
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- DJW_GT
This. Spa is such a brilliant track to race on, especially when you have 16 very fast and very clean racers in a lounge, it's really a fantastic experience.
I voted for 'I'm not real sure' though, as the poll question Involves me taking other peoples opinions in to account too.
ItsHim
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- Bavaria/Germany
Spa is a great track, even more so as GT captured the very essence of it.
But as a race track, not so sure about that. Everything that's in Spa, some other track (in GT 5) does better. The high speed stuff is done better in Monza, the technical and high speed part there can only be Suzuka.
As there's endurance on the Nordschleife, Spa gets beaten there too.
Great to have Spa now, especially in this quality, but I feel it's overrated.
But as a race track, not so sure about that. Everything that's in Spa, some other track (in GT 5) does better. The high speed stuff is done better in Monza, the technical and high speed part there can only be Suzuka.
As there's endurance on the Nordschleife, Spa gets beaten there too.
Great to have Spa now, especially in this quality, but I feel it's overrated.
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- Adelaide
- Heathenpride
The 'gring is is the pinnacle of motor sports... it's as Lords is to cricket, as the Rosebowl is to NFL, as Wimbledon to tennis and as the world cup is to football.
It is the ultimate in motor sports, regardless of how one views the track one thing is clear: there is none better... ask any race car driver what the best track in the world is & I wager it won't be Spa, it will be the 'gring & it's no different on GT5
My $0.02, no change please
It is the ultimate in motor sports, regardless of how one views the track one thing is clear: there is none better... ask any race car driver what the best track in the world is & I wager it won't be Spa, it will be the 'gring & it's no different on GT5
My $0.02, no change please
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- neocodex
Spa is an excellent track, as others have said, its a better race track.
But the ring is a whole different kind of special. Nothing is as thrilling as the ring and nothing can match it for its ability to give you the most exciting and satisfying experiences behind our virtual wheels.
But the ring is a whole different kind of special. Nothing is as thrilling as the ring and nothing can match it for its ability to give you the most exciting and satisfying experiences behind our virtual wheels.
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- Kwicko
Can't vote in the poll, because my choices aren't really offered.
*CAN* Spa become a GT5 classic? Of course. *WILL* it? Who knows?
If we're putting Spa up against the classic Nordschleife, I'd prefer to have the older (larger) Spa layout so we have an apples-to-apples comparison.
Of course, then I'd also like to have the older, larger Monza layout to compare to both of them...
*CAN* Spa become a GT5 classic? Of course. *WILL* it? Who knows?
If we're putting Spa up against the classic Nordschleife, I'd prefer to have the older (larger) Spa layout so we have an apples-to-apples comparison.
Of course, then I'd also like to have the older, larger Monza layout to compare to both of them...
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Lets see: SPA=Unglitchable
Nurburgring 24 HR=Glitchable
Yeah lets go with Nurburgring 24 HR for a quick $2 million.
Nurburgring 24 HR=Glitchable
Yeah lets go with Nurburgring 24 HR for a quick $2 million.
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- Bromley
- V16T91
- E0nLeader
It shouldn't matter because it shouldn't work anymore.
Anyway, I think both are about equal. Although Spa does lose out from a pathetic penalty system, but then the Nurburgring is hard to get around without a penalty anyway...Spa though is a good well rounded track, but Nurburgring is rather well rounded too, just a lot twistier.
Energizerrr
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- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
The 'gring is is the pinnacle of motor sports... it's as Lords is to cricket, as the Rosebowl is to NFL, as Wimbledon to tennis and as the world cup is to football.
It is the ultimate in motor sports, regardless of how one views the track one thing is clear: there is none better... ask any race car driver what the best track in the world is & I wager it won't be Spa, it will be the 'gring & it's no different on GT5
My $0.02, no change please
Burn...
Michael Schumacher's Favourite Track - "Far and away, Spa"
Alain Prost - "Old Nurburgring and Current Spa"
Mark Webber - "Spa"
Di Resta - "Spa is the favourite F1 Drivers track"
Massa - "Suzuka is up there with Spa"
ITV - "Spa invariably tops straw polls asking drivers and fans to name their favourite circuit, and it's easy to see why".
Definitely no change from that 2 cents...lol.
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- Morgoth_666
And how many of those quotes come from instances when they were even considering tracks that F1 at the time didn't race on? Or racing non-F1 cars on? Can't help but notice that not a single of those quotes comes from any drivers who regularly drive anything other than F1 cars on F1 tracks, too(depending I suppose on when the AP quote was from). I wonder what track the drivers who regularly race in the VLN events would pick? Or what the regular NASCAR Sprint Cup drivers would pick?
Obviously all claims of "it's a fact" and "everyone agrees" are silly, but those quotes don't really prove or disprove anything either.
My own useless opinion: The Nordschleife is by far the more enjoyable to drive, but it is so twisty and bumpy that it is not ideal for actual racing, at least not of the quick-and-urgent variety that makes up most online racing. Spa is great and much better as a pure racing track, but it is so flat(the road surface itself) and so wide that after a while I find it gets rather boring. Overall, I prefer the Nordschleife in all its forms.
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- Adelaide
- Heathenpride
Johnnypenso
Looks like I would have lost that wager! Surprising to see, I would have thought the general consensus among drivers would be Nürbürgring so I am genuinely surprised.
Still the Mecca of motor sports though, that will never change
JimmyTheHat
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- Hampshire
- drmeatdic
Old Spa is better than Nordschelife
New Spa is better than Nurburgring GP
Nordschelife is better than New Spa
New Spa is better than Nurburgring GP
Nordschelife is better than New Spa
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- Kwicko
A good lap of Spa, you feel like things really flowed, it just feels natural, organic.
A good lap of the Nordschleife, you feel like you're just lucky you survived it.
I really would like to see some of the classic - LONG - race courses make their way into the game. LeMans is great, of course, and the Nordschleife is a monster, but I'd love to see races like the Mille Miglia, Carrera Panamerica, etc.
And, of course, old Spa and old Monza, as I mentioned above.
A good lap of the Nordschleife, you feel like you're just lucky you survived it.
I really would like to see some of the classic - LONG - race courses make their way into the game. LeMans is great, of course, and the Nordschleife is a monster, but I'd love to see races like the Mille Miglia, Carrera Panamerica, etc.
And, of course, old Spa and old Monza, as I mentioned above.
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- GTP_JamieC2311
I think in general the 'ring will always be the favourite of the majority in any game, but I just don't get it, Its no good for racing in my eyes, just good for hot lapping, and unless you spend hours and hours there its hard to master.
Spa for me is the best track in the game, great for racing, great for hot lapping and all together its a fantastic track. It feel so good when you ace a lap, it all seems to flow nice and smoothly.
Spa for me is the best track in the game, great for racing, great for hot lapping and all together its a fantastic track. It feel so good when you ace a lap, it all seems to flow nice and smoothly.
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- Sohvakettu
The renditions of old spa that I have tried are actually pretty boring on modern car. High speed with nothing happening. As a race track modern Spa is just superior compared to old one.
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- diegorborges82
A good lap of Spa, you feel like things really flowed, it just feels natural, organic.
A good lap of the Nordschleife, you feel like you're just lucky you survived it.
I really would like to see some of the classic - LONG - race courses make their way into the game. LeMans is great, of course, and the Nordschleife is a monster, but I'd love to see races like the Mille Miglia, Carrera Panamerica, etc.
And, of course, old Spa and old Monza, as I mentioned above.
THIS:
"A good lap of the Nordschleife, you feel like you're just lucky you survived it. "
That's why we keep getting back trying to die again.
