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Sport mode advice for average Joe
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God, no! It's a game.
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DesertPenguin
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Heres my advise for sport mode: Don't.
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Sport mode is good for random match ups when you have a spare 30mins or so. Expect some random behavior though.
To avoid the most random driving you need to qualify well, so practise the track, and raise your SR ie. avoid accidents in the race.
To improve, focus on one or two things at a time. Set realistic goals and as you meet them adjust accordingly.
To avoid the most random driving you need to qualify well, so practise the track, and raise your SR ie. avoid accidents in the race.
To improve, focus on one or two things at a time. Set realistic goals and as you meet them adjust accordingly.
BjoBosUndies
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I’m usually about 1.5% off the fastest player times. But here is how I approach playing the game.
Find a circuit you like. Use it as a warmup to you actually playing in sport mode. (e.g Maggiorie). Turn 5 laps and use it dial in your
focus and senses. Do this methodically everyday. Don’t skip it. Similar to warming up before you train in a sport. (Credit to David Perel)
You can’t be at 100% a 100% of the time, but this should help you tune yourself into the task and get close.
Never use the qualifying between races as the only means of setting a time. Go into dedicated qualifying session and spend say 1 hour, 300km or whatever solely on qualifying.
Watch and study the replays from the top guys.
Accept that you may never be as fast as aliens, but be obsessed with doing your personal best.
Take extended breaks from the game to avoid burnout.
It’s like any other sport really. Practice the way you play.
Find a circuit you like. Use it as a warmup to you actually playing in sport mode. (e.g Maggiorie). Turn 5 laps and use it dial in your
focus and senses. Do this methodically everyday. Don’t skip it. Similar to warming up before you train in a sport. (Credit to David Perel)
You can’t be at 100% a 100% of the time, but this should help you tune yourself into the task and get close.
Never use the qualifying between races as the only means of setting a time. Go into dedicated qualifying session and spend say 1 hour, 300km or whatever solely on qualifying.
Watch and study the replays from the top guys.
Accept that you may never be as fast as aliens, but be obsessed with doing your personal best.
Take extended breaks from the game to avoid burnout.
It’s like any other sport really. Practice the way you play.
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- TPCDangerSashimi
My additions,
Don't use PS Rest Mode as some settings sometimes reset and can result in race disconnections.
If the race has Grid Start, it may require TCS (traction). Have it turned on before start. Be prepared to turn it off after gearing up.
For the easiest entry point into Sports Mode, learn Suzuka East and Maggiore Center. This is where the lowest power cars race. Easiest way to get racing.
Don't ever quickly exit from the lobby after a race. Take a moment. You may want to save the replay.
Don't use PS Rest Mode as some settings sometimes reset and can result in race disconnections.
If the race has Grid Start, it may require TCS (traction). Have it turned on before start. Be prepared to turn it off after gearing up.
For the easiest entry point into Sports Mode, learn Suzuka East and Maggiore Center. This is where the lowest power cars race. Easiest way to get racing.
Don't ever quickly exit from the lobby after a race. Take a moment. You may want to save the replay.
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Clean driving will usually net you better results than being overly agressive.
If you are closely following someone, lift 0.5-1sec before breaking points to avoid bumping in to them. This might also give you a better run out of the corner than your opponent.
Try to stop using tranction control, at least in GR 3 and lower. It is challenging at first, but you will be faster once you get a feeling for the throttle.
Use manual shifting, you will be able to gain speed by delaying shifts / shifting early, depending on car and corner. You also lose less time by short shifting instead of using the fuel map.
If you are closely following someone, lift 0.5-1sec before breaking points to avoid bumping in to them. This might also give you a better run out of the corner than your opponent.
Try to stop using tranction control, at least in GR 3 and lower. It is challenging at first, but you will be faster once you get a feeling for the throttle.
Use manual shifting, you will be able to gain speed by delaying shifts / shifting early, depending on car and corner. You also lose less time by short shifting instead of using the fuel map.
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Learn the track on the left, centre, and right and get comfortable driving alongside an opponent.
Learn how to overtake from the outside.
Learn how to apply pressure without touching the other car.
Do your best to avoid any contact with other drivers.
Do not use the driving line in Sport races because it'll prevent you from improving and other drivers will just punt you if you ignore what's going on (use your radars). Just use it for qualifying etc.
Learn how to overtake from the outside.
Learn how to apply pressure without touching the other car.
Do your best to avoid any contact with other drivers.
Do not use the driving line in Sport races because it'll prevent you from improving and other drivers will just punt you if you ignore what's going on (use your radars). Just use it for qualifying etc.
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We're celebrating the 40th birthday of my company right now ... and I'm drunk, so please forgive me, guys.
It's not exactly advice that I have to offer, but something to keep in mind for sure :
It's not exactly advice that I have to offer, but something to keep in mind for sure :
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Veinz
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Prioritize getting to SR S before worrying about your DR. I know it’s easier said than done, but the racing is much better if you get there.
Also being a just little courteous with others while passing or getting passed goes a long way. Race like an arse then you will certainly get treated like one. Lots of people like myself don’t forget psn names, lol.
Also being a just little courteous with others while passing or getting passed goes a long way. Race like an arse then you will certainly get treated like one. Lots of people like myself don’t forget psn names, lol.
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Groundfish
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Just as an aside, I probably take sport mode more serious than most. First race I entered was n100 Alpine at Tsukuba race c. I was s sr after one race. I’m not tooting my own horn (maybe a little) but I started maybe 8th? Can’t remember. Not knowing how etiquette was two cars ahead were sloppy...Contact, I braked to stay away and received sr up.
Anyways, I strongly recommend turning on the line and using it at first. As you get better you might wanna widen it out at certain points or modify it, but first turn on lines cones and markers and also brake indicator in driving options menu.
For learning tracks start with a car you enjoy.
If switching to wheel, this game with almost all cars likes some trail braking. Not all cars are the same, and not all corners, but if you have the cones on start braking at the two cones with wheels straight, the importance of making a habit of braking sraight cannot be overemphasized imo. Braking in a straight line at every hard braking zone is a great idea imo.
So you brake and before you are off brake begin turning the wheels.
The weight as you brake will shift to the front of the car, you begin turning and it will shift sideways, from there you blend in throttle after the apex cone. It’s basic stuff, but if you are learning a wheel I think first be in the right line, brake straight, begin turning the wheel towards apex progressively as you come off brake. Most turns you want to add throttle as early as you can but at apex or just after.
The cars are all different, but a proper turn in to a corner gets things started.
If using a ffb wheel, you get a sense of the cars suspension squatting or loading up, that’s what you are after, it will give you more grip, many cars also need a tiny bit of throttle on many corners as soon as you come off brake.
So for me it’s brake straight, begin turning wheel and coming off brake and add throttle at after apex. It’s not always that way in all situations, but it’s a good baseline for starting out. If you are running gr3 I recommend running tcs default if you are just starting out. They won’t let you run asm in sport mode so I never reccomend asm or countersteer assist.
Practice in racing cars on racing hands and in on n class cars on sports hard, you might feel really bad at first, but once you start to get the hang of it you will love racing sport mode when they bless you with trippier rubber.
If you follow what I said at some point you may notice tcs acting. Once you see that, you may be ready to turn it down IF you feel it’s holding your speed back.
Be on the yellow line wheels straight at the two cones, begin turning towards apex before releasing brake, after that play around.
You should be able to follow the yellow line pretty easy doing this.
Good luck and I hope more folks will chime in as well, remember we are talking to people that are not turning super fast laps at this point.
My advice on etiquette is don’t battle unless you know what you are doing, if in doubt, letoff a bit. Espescially in race on braking zones.
Often running somewhat close to an opponent consistently will make them nervous, and they will mess up a corner exit onto a straight, that’s when you pass.
Patience and some consideration for others goes a long ways. Run your race, run your yellow line, and drive the car, don’t let it drive you!
Good luck
Anyways, I strongly recommend turning on the line and using it at first. As you get better you might wanna widen it out at certain points or modify it, but first turn on lines cones and markers and also brake indicator in driving options menu.
For learning tracks start with a car you enjoy.
If switching to wheel, this game with almost all cars likes some trail braking. Not all cars are the same, and not all corners, but if you have the cones on start braking at the two cones with wheels straight, the importance of making a habit of braking sraight cannot be overemphasized imo. Braking in a straight line at every hard braking zone is a great idea imo.
So you brake and before you are off brake begin turning the wheels.
The weight as you brake will shift to the front of the car, you begin turning and it will shift sideways, from there you blend in throttle after the apex cone. It’s basic stuff, but if you are learning a wheel I think first be in the right line, brake straight, begin turning the wheel towards apex progressively as you come off brake. Most turns you want to add throttle as early as you can but at apex or just after.
The cars are all different, but a proper turn in to a corner gets things started.
If using a ffb wheel, you get a sense of the cars suspension squatting or loading up, that’s what you are after, it will give you more grip, many cars also need a tiny bit of throttle on many corners as soon as you come off brake.
So for me it’s brake straight, begin turning wheel and coming off brake and add throttle at after apex. It’s not always that way in all situations, but it’s a good baseline for starting out. If you are running gr3 I recommend running tcs default if you are just starting out. They won’t let you run asm in sport mode so I never reccomend asm or countersteer assist.
Practice in racing cars on racing hands and in on n class cars on sports hard, you might feel really bad at first, but once you start to get the hang of it you will love racing sport mode when they bless you with trippier rubber.
If you follow what I said at some point you may notice tcs acting. Once you see that, you may be ready to turn it down IF you feel it’s holding your speed back.
Be on the yellow line wheels straight at the two cones, begin turning towards apex before releasing brake, after that play around.
You should be able to follow the yellow line pretty easy doing this.
Good luck and I hope more folks will chime in as well, remember we are talking to people that are not turning super fast laps at this point.
My advice on etiquette is don’t battle unless you know what you are doing, if in doubt, letoff a bit. Espescially in race on braking zones.
Often running somewhat close to an opponent consistently will make them nervous, and they will mess up a corner exit onto a straight, that’s when you pass.
Patience and some consideration for others goes a long ways. Run your race, run your yellow line, and drive the car, don’t let it drive you!
Good luck
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LeGeNd-1
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I think that, if you can be within 1-2 seconds of the top times, you should give yourself a pat on the back for getting this far. The remaining few seconds can seem like a lot but it actually isn't. 2 seconds on a circuit with, say 10 corners, means you only lose 0.2 seconds per corner. Braking 5m early, missing the apex by 30cm, or getting on the throttle a fraction late can each lose you that 0.2 secs. It's tiny tiny margins, but it adds up throughout the lap and by the end of a 10 lap race, you will be 20 seconds behind and look like an idiot who can't drive. But actually you are very very good and wayyyy above the average joe. These "aliens" are just that teeny tiny bit more precise with their inputs and lines than you. And just to give a reference, 0.2 secs is only a blink of an eye. So if you tell your hands & feet to try and do what these aliens do, it won't do it because a conscious movement always takes longer than a reflex. So you either have it or you don't. You can practice 100 laps to get faster, but by that time the alien would have also found a way to get faster as well.
So, just enjoy it. Never stop learning and always try to be faster. Once you reach your limit, be proud of what you have achieved and think of how many more people wish they can be as fast as you
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So, just enjoy it. Never stop learning and always try to be faster. Once you reach your limit, be proud of what you have achieved and think of how many more people wish they can be as fast as you
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If you can get to two seconds or less off the top ten, it'll be worth loading a top ten ghost instead of using your own. Easier to spot where you're going wrong in the first couple of sectors and you'll get a better idea of how much harder you need to push.
My favourite quote from this forum; don't practise till you get it right, practise till you can't get it wrong. Use the 7 P's.
My favourite quote from this forum; don't practise till you get it right, practise till you can't get it wrong. Use the 7 P's.
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Other than being in the right mind frame for a race, I don't do any of the 'get quicker' tips in this thread. Classic underachiever.
I'm not motivated by results anymore. Just the racing itself.
I'm not motivated by results anymore. Just the racing itself.
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That is pretty much where I've been for a long time now. I know what I should be doing, but I lack the ability to perfectly execute it corner after corner. I'm simply further away, on average, from what I'm trying to do each corner than the top people, so bang goes 0.1-0.2 seconds every corner, and that ghost just moves a bit further ahead as the lap goes on.
I have a feeling that improved tech will close the gap a little in future years, in that I feel the current poor resolution of the display and field of view compared to real life are obstacles. Aliens of today are people who are good at overcoming those obstacles, i.e. I'm guessing they can hold a mental spatial map of the track in their head better than those of us who wish we could see it better, but that skill won't be as important in the future, though it will still matter for blind bends.
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1-2 sec off top times is about my personal ceiling without just going ocd for many hours.
I lucked into a good deal on nice wheel and pedals so I have good devices to use.
Fact is we all have limits of what’s attainable given limited playtime.
Remember aliens have very very high hours invested in most cases. Also excellent hand eye coordination. Not everyone has that, but anyone can do basic stuff fundamentally well imo.
From my perspective here I just wanted to share from what I have learned to help people.
You can’t think your way to drive fast imo.
You practice the technique over and over then it becomes subconscious.
You need a starting point though.
You need to know what you are trying to do first.
Heck I
The basic all aids on brake straight turn wheel use throttle after apex I’d say is plenty to give folks speed to compete to A S with practice.
The technique and timing and coordination naturally will improve over time if you know what you are trying to do.
No ones running those top ten times in race. Those laps are outer limits of what’s possible.
My advice here is directed towards average joe who wants to get a little better.
I’d be happy to assist anyone on wheel who is struggling at any level below mine.
Part of the thread idea was for folks to post questions as well and get opinions from folks much faster than me.
I’ve had good luck helping folks starting out though...
I enjoy the game and community, just trying to do what I can...What’s fun is doing a bit better, just a bit better than the week before...just having the right level of challenge, not being frustrated by things that are too difficult like trying to match alien laps.
I lucked into a good deal on nice wheel and pedals so I have good devices to use.
Fact is we all have limits of what’s attainable given limited playtime.
Remember aliens have very very high hours invested in most cases. Also excellent hand eye coordination. Not everyone has that, but anyone can do basic stuff fundamentally well imo.
From my perspective here I just wanted to share from what I have learned to help people.
You can’t think your way to drive fast imo.
You practice the technique over and over then it becomes subconscious.
You need a starting point though.
You need to know what you are trying to do first.
Heck I
The basic all aids on brake straight turn wheel use throttle after apex I’d say is plenty to give folks speed to compete to A S with practice.
The technique and timing and coordination naturally will improve over time if you know what you are trying to do.
No ones running those top ten times in race. Those laps are outer limits of what’s possible.
My advice here is directed towards average joe who wants to get a little better.
I’d be happy to assist anyone on wheel who is struggling at any level below mine.
Part of the thread idea was for folks to post questions as well and get opinions from folks much faster than me.
I’ve had good luck helping folks starting out though...
I enjoy the game and community, just trying to do what I can...What’s fun is doing a bit better, just a bit better than the week before...just having the right level of challenge, not being frustrated by things that are too difficult like trying to match alien laps.
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Confidence.
I've seen a lot of people not use the entire width of the track, brake too early, then blip the gas a bit after realizing they braked too early, and not going on the power until they're completely straight. Maybe I'm wrong, but from how I see it, it's one thing to learn the track and car, but it's another to apply them.
GTS is a virtual game where there is nothing to lose when you crash (in time trials and practice). Don't be afraid to overdrive the car, overshoot braking points, and spinning it. You wouldn't know the limits of a car if you just keep driving under it; sometimes you have to go over it to know that "ah! So that's where the limit is".
I hope I've already implied this, but if not this advice only works when you're practicing. Don't ever overstep your bounds in a race situation
I've seen a lot of people not use the entire width of the track, brake too early, then blip the gas a bit after realizing they braked too early, and not going on the power until they're completely straight. Maybe I'm wrong, but from how I see it, it's one thing to learn the track and car, but it's another to apply them.
GTS is a virtual game where there is nothing to lose when you crash (in time trials and practice). Don't be afraid to overdrive the car, overshoot braking points, and spinning it. You wouldn't know the limits of a car if you just keep driving under it; sometimes you have to go over it to know that "ah! So that's where the limit is".
I hope I've already implied this, but if not this advice only works when you're practicing. Don't ever overstep your bounds in a race situation
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