Sprinter Tureno(AE86) SS Version!
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you cant buy it new, but you can get it with 6.2 miles on the clock. i brought mine from the used car lot. first time i got a used one with thouands of miles driven, then later on (i cant be sure of the exact day) i saw the same car for sale with 6.2 miles. keep checking your used car lot, eventually it will turn up.
This is supposedly the car of Initial D driven by the one and only Takumi Fujiwara from the manga, anime and now live movie.
Let me reveal some true specs about this car.
The normal Sprinter Trueno or Corolla Levin GT APEX codename AE86 is powered by a 1.6 litre Twin Cam engine called the 4A-GEU. It is a fantastic iron block engine that was built in 1983 and lasted till 2000 in the last version the Trueno and Levin.
This early engine a 16 valve wide angle combustion head design and was Fuel injected and had around 125-130PS. Good for a 1600cc engine for its time. It could rev to a crazy 8000rpm and in tuned form it could go up to 200bhp at around 9000 plus rpm.
Later versions appearing in FF versions of the Trueno/Levin called the AE101 and AE111 were 20 valve (5 valve per cylinder) and had VVT. Power was around 165-170bhp. Of course the design was basically the same and it could be fitted to the AE86. Which is what a lot of private tuners in Japan do.
The Initial D (Shuichi Shigeno version) AE86 has a 20 valve 4A-GE tuned by TRD to around 215PS at 10000rpm as in the game. The manga version has around 240PS at 11000rpm which is achivable by doing Stage 3 tuning and ECU. This type of 4A-GE is actually a Toyota Formula Atlantic engine used in their single seater Formula 3 race cars. So actually it is impossible for a normal person to acquire this engine.
Other notes on the SS Trueno. The carbon bonnet with the carbon headlamps are only attainable from one comapny in Japan.
The rims are old school special. Called the RS Watannabe 8 Spoke, these are the same rims in Takumi's Initial D car.
To bring out the true potential of this car, you need to get a full gearbox and suspension system.
Let me reveal some true specs about this car.
The normal Sprinter Trueno or Corolla Levin GT APEX codename AE86 is powered by a 1.6 litre Twin Cam engine called the 4A-GEU. It is a fantastic iron block engine that was built in 1983 and lasted till 2000 in the last version the Trueno and Levin.
This early engine a 16 valve wide angle combustion head design and was Fuel injected and had around 125-130PS. Good for a 1600cc engine for its time. It could rev to a crazy 8000rpm and in tuned form it could go up to 200bhp at around 9000 plus rpm.
Later versions appearing in FF versions of the Trueno/Levin called the AE101 and AE111 were 20 valve (5 valve per cylinder) and had VVT. Power was around 165-170bhp. Of course the design was basically the same and it could be fitted to the AE86. Which is what a lot of private tuners in Japan do.
The Initial D (Shuichi Shigeno version) AE86 has a 20 valve 4A-GE tuned by TRD to around 215PS at 10000rpm as in the game. The manga version has around 240PS at 11000rpm which is achivable by doing Stage 3 tuning and ECU. This type of 4A-GE is actually a Toyota Formula Atlantic engine used in their single seater Formula 3 race cars. So actually it is impossible for a normal person to acquire this engine.
Other notes on the SS Trueno. The carbon bonnet with the carbon headlamps are only attainable from one comapny in Japan.
The rims are old school special. Called the RS Watannabe 8 Spoke, these are the same rims in Takumi's Initial D car.
To bring out the true potential of this car, you need to get a full gearbox and suspension system.
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That is great info on the car 👍
I have the 4th Generation Celica (ST160) that uses the same engine!
You forgot to mention the T-VIS technology used on the 4A-GEU, wich (to my limited know-how) shuts down half the valves when you are in low-revs.
My Celica is not as fast as the normal Levin/Trueno it has an extra 10hp but also weights in an extra 300kgm. The worst part though is that it is FWD.
I have the 4th Generation Celica (ST160) that uses the same engine!
You forgot to mention the T-VIS technology used on the 4A-GEU, wich (to my limited know-how) shuts down half the valves when you are in low-revs.
My Celica is not as fast as the normal Levin/Trueno it has an extra 10hp but also weights in an extra 300kgm. The worst part though is that it is FWD.
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daggoth
ST160 w/4AGE? did you do an engine swap or something? from what I know the ST160 came stock with 3SGE!
also forgot to mention that this is JDM as far as the AE86 s.s. version, so it used MAP technology in takumi's first (16v) engine. later used ITB's on the 20v setup
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i believe there are already huge discussions somewhere in the gtplanet and those guys seem to have a lot of info......do a search......but on a side note..i love this car....but although a new one would be cool, i've seen people with corolla gt's...turenos yadda yadda and what not still driftin the heck out of em 300k+ miles...these things are awsome ...replace a part here or there but man i think the only person i know of that could ever blow up an ae86 is takumi..
(well i just made up most of this post after the i love this car part but you get what im sayin...right?)
(well i just made up most of this post after the i love this car part but you get what im sayin...right?)
my dad had one offered to him for around 300 dollars because the transmission was destroyed.his coworker bought it and replaced the transmission for 200 bucks. my father is a mechanic in puerto rico where these cars are very VERy common.im looking into importing one. but its expensive!!!
diptob79
Story lives on, Takumi now is switching to STi which his dad bought, and beat Takumi badly one morning. Takumi kinda lost his confidence in his 86, because he thinks it's inpossible for him to out run the STi. New Generation cars are much stable and have much faster exit corner speed.
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Emohawk
All those power figures are about right, the 4AGEU DOES make about 125hp, the 20 valve 4AGE DOES make about 165hp. I'm not really sure about the Initial D stuff but then again it is just a cartoon so if they needed to embellish the truth a little they could probably get away with it.
Well guys, I never expected to find Levin / Trueno fans here....ha ha.....I used to help a friend in his tuning car workshop here in Singapore called Racing Works. Six of us had a different AE86...Two of us had a somewhat close version to the two AE86s running around in Initial D. Namely Takumi's 20 Valve (but with 185PS) and a Levin with a Supercharger like Wataru Akiyama.
Mine was a black & white Levin with a AE101 Silver Top 20 Valve that did 170PS (or about 150PS at the wheels. It was a good time but almost all of our cars are either exported or scrapped due to Singapore car policies.
The power figures are based on Toyota independant dyno bench tests. If you don't believe me, buy a stock AE86 and AE111 in GT4 and give it a oil change and see for yourself.
It is not far off.. In fact almost all the used cars after oil change will give the true power as in Japan with 100RON gas.
Mine was a black & white Levin with a AE101 Silver Top 20 Valve that did 170PS (or about 150PS at the wheels. It was a good time but almost all of our cars are either exported or scrapped due to Singapore car policies.
The power figures are based on Toyota independant dyno bench tests. If you don't believe me, buy a stock AE86 and AE111 in GT4 and give it a oil change and see for yourself.
It is not far off.. In fact almost all the used cars after oil change will give the true power as in Japan with 100RON gas.
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Sti04
I'm hoping to check those episodes. Is that part already on Anime? I have thought about buying the manga but there are already so many Vols. that I would blow a lot of money.
That poor 86' has already beaten so many superior cars... He's nothing to be ashamed of! My favourite episode is when he drives his friend's Levin and kicks the s**t out of a Nissan Silvia
Have you seen éX-Driver?? one episode the kid that drives the super seven beats one of the girls with a tuned Midget! (The girl is driving a Lancia Stratus......) I was like: WTF???
I have a 240k miles 1985 coupe trueno and i love it. Although you can kinda tell why the car is so legendary, it is still a really old car... I really wish I can drive a new 6.3 mile ae86 in real life to experience what they were like in the 80s. May be a chasis refresh will tell.
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Hmm, why was I so sure that 4A-GEs only made ~90hp? I guess he was right...
Differences between what? S and A? The S series is 2.0 liter, newer, more often turbocharged (in GT-4 Celicas, the A series was only ever supercharged stock), and is capible of huge power outputs. They were used in Toyota's WRC cars back when they used to do that, and even the JGTC Supras (4 cyl = better weight balance. And that way they only had to fund development of one engine).
The A series was used in a lot of things, mostly Corollas (there are lots of Corollas). I'm not sure if it's still in production, but if it is it would be in the non-performance biased form of the 7A-FE, which I believe is larger then the 4A-GE (1.7L?). You can swap a 4A head onto a 7A though, pretty well known hybrid AFAIK.
Where do you live that your Celica has a 4A in it? Germany? I think I heard something about that once, but that was a MkIII, what generation is your Celica?daggothI did not know that! I always assumed to be the same engine! My dad had a Levin and it wah 1.6 GT Twin-Cam just like my Celica.
But I stand corrected then! Can you guys tell me more differences between them? thanks
Differences between what? S and A? The S series is 2.0 liter, newer, more often turbocharged (in GT-4 Celicas, the A series was only ever supercharged stock), and is capible of huge power outputs. They were used in Toyota's WRC cars back when they used to do that, and even the JGTC Supras (4 cyl = better weight balance. And that way they only had to fund development of one engine).
The A series was used in a lot of things, mostly Corollas (there are lots of Corollas). I'm not sure if it's still in production, but if it is it would be in the non-performance biased form of the 7A-FE, which I believe is larger then the 4A-GE (1.7L?). You can swap a 4A head onto a 7A though, pretty well known hybrid AFAIK.
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Emohawk
I live in Portugal - Europe. It's a small country right next to Spain.
If the S is a 2.0 liter by default then I don't have that engine, since my car is a 1.6 GT Twin Cam.
I have the 4th generation Celica. In Europe you could buy 3 different Celicas in the 4th, 5th and 6th generations.
The 1.6GT Twin Cam(GTi) , 2.0GT, 2.0 GT-Four. The GT-four was the same 2.0 engine with a turbo as you stated.
My car has 125hp, the same as the 4A. I'm confused now to wich engine I really have....
EDIT: Oh, and thanks for the info on the engines
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Interesting. Never heard of a 4A powered MkIV Celica before. (I know where Portugal is though )
It probably is the case but, if you really want to be absolutly sure, I'll try and describe what to do here:
On your firewall there should be a little metal plate with a whole bunch of numbers on it. It'll probably look something like this. I don't know exactly where they are on MkIV Celicas, but it should be pretty easy to find if you just look around under the hood a little.
If it has the bit about the engine on it, bingo, there's your answer. If it doesn't though, you'll need to look at the model code. The code for a 'normal' MkIV Celica would be ST161.
S is for S series engine, T is for Celica, 16 is for MkIV, and 1 is for the trim (the last number would probably be different for you).
If the first letter is A, you do have an A series engine, most likely . If it's S, then you don't really have a 1.6GT. If the first letter isn't A or S, then I'm very confused.
)It probably is the case but, if you really want to be absolutly sure, I'll try and describe what to do here:
On your firewall there should be a little metal plate with a whole bunch of numbers on it. It'll probably look something like this. I don't know exactly where they are on MkIV Celicas, but it should be pretty easy to find if you just look around under the hood a little.
If it has the bit about the engine on it, bingo, there's your answer. If it doesn't though, you'll need to look at the model code. The code for a 'normal' MkIV Celica would be ST161.
S is for S series engine, T is for Celica, 16 is for MkIV, and 1 is for the trim (the last number would probably be different for you).
If the first letter is A, you do have an A series engine, most likely . If it's S, then you don't really have a 1.6GT. If the first letter isn't A or S, then I'm very confused.
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The first letter is an A!!
AT160
Why the hell did I thought ST160??? Maybe the other models in GT4 got me confused!
So, It's the 4A for me I'd prefer the S engine though, more horsepower
I'm going to sell it soon! probably between 2500/3000$ If all goes well, I'll be driving a Supra next month
AT160
Why the hell did I thought ST160??? Maybe the other models in GT4 got me confused!
So, It's the 4A for me
I'd prefer the S engine though, more horsepower I'm going to sell it soon! probably between 2500/3000$ If all goes well, I'll be driving a Supra next month
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TachiTJRS
Actually I belive that you can buy a Toyota Atlantic 4A-GE from Toysport for aroung $15,000.
Unless you are planning to race single seaters on a circuit, buying one is out of the question. However, in the TRD catalog, it is possible to purchase the Group A engine internals for either a 16 valve or 20 valve, but blueprinting and assembling the block is another matter....by the time you can amass the complete parts together, you would have spent enough money to buy a Evo 9!
As for the GT4 SS AE86, keep looking in Used A every day...its bound to show up.....I have myself come across it 10 times already....so keep looking.
As for the GT4 SS AE86, keep looking in Used A every day...its bound to show up.....I have myself come across it 10 times already....so keep looking.
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Indianajones54
My cousin just bought one for around 400 in pr. i never knew they were so popular over there till he told me a few months back..the last time i went (i was 17, now 21), the most common cars i've seen there were the mirage and the echo.
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