SR-A drivers are better than S

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Hi all, first post, enjoying GTS on the whole.
I have a theory and wonder if anyone else agrees. In my experience SR-A drivers are more sporting than S rated drivers. I believe this is because those that are A, Drive well and want to get to S so the races tend to be clean. Since I got to S, the drivers know that they cannot go any higher and are willing to make some deliberate hits to gain an advantage and don’t mind risking dropping to A. Certainly in my experience, A races are much better than S races.
 
what i think happens also, is that some guys in high SR, sometimes can play dirty without trigger the penalties
 
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I only have good clean races in SR: S. I have been there for a while too. I usually finish with a blue S, occasional white, and the rare red.

I did not know people stayed in A for very long. I have only ran 2 races in SR: A. The first was on my way to S, I got a clean race and went to S. 2nd one I had a few bad races (my fault) and fell to A. I started on pole and ran away with it, so another clean race and went to S again.
 
I think the reason these kind of comments keep popping up is because people are driving a slower, very cautious pace in order to get to SR/S. Then, when they get there they cannot maintain the pace and this causes all kinds of problems.

Like BigDawg said. I have been at S since a day or two after release and have only dropped to A once. That race was definitely not any cleaner. It was just slower, making it easier to start higher and pull away.
 
SR S is a must. I spent maybe 3-4 races in SR A and was very glad to get to SR S. Every racer is potentially aggressive at any level but I have had waay more racers punt me off the track in SR S and then wait for me to get back on the track before they continue their race than at any other level. This to me is huuge. It implies that it was accidental and they were willing to accept blame. this didn't happen in any other ranks for me.In SR S people tend to really prefer clean races than high placement.
 
I've been in SR S since about the third day of GTS release and I have rarely had problems with others, went on a break for about a week over Christmas since I went out of town, just got back yesterday and it seems I'm running into some pretty bad SR S drivers. Just had a race on Kyoto with RCZ Gr3 road car race and had one guy attempt to swipe me off first turn then another guy shove me right off the road through the downhill S and I basically quit since I was in 4th and fell to dead last on the first lap.
 
SR-S ranges from 80 to 99. I like to keep it at 99 as high SR-S generally has cleaner races than low SR-S.

Longer races are too easy to stay blue though. In the 3 or 4 lap races 1 good hit can already get you a white rating, 2 hits can be enough for red. In the 10 lap races you can make 4 or 5 mistakes and still end up with a blue rating. Imo length of the race should have no impact. In SR-S 1 mistake white rating, 2 mistakes red, 3 mistakes black flag, drop back to SR-A. PD should have the balls to enforce SR and make it mean something. Penalties should also be permanent in SR-S.

Of course without fine tuning the penalty system it would lead to more frustration. I guess it is this lenient since it can't distinguish between hitting an accident and pushing someone of track.

Perhaps it should have an option to stay in SR-A if you like contact racing.
 
baldgye
I don't know, a few races into SR-S I've had the best and closest racing I've ever had in Sport
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I guess I was harsh, but I had a single bad race and was dropped to B (I was the one being hit generally), then within 3 races was back at S. I just think the player-base in general is getting better / poor players are leaving.
 
GTWelsh
I guess I was harsh, but I had a single bad race and was dropped to B (I was the one being hit generally), then within 3 races was back at S. I just think the player-base in general is getting better / poor players are leaving.
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Yeah I had the same thing happen, but after getting back into S, I had three chill races and my S rank increased and since then I've had some brilliant action that's only been ruined when I bottle it on the last couple of laps :lol:

example;
 
It doesn't matter which SR category you race in, there will always be people with a short fuse or just those who think GTS is a need for speed game and just ram anyone in front of them, from SR E->S.

I for one do not care about my SR or DR, because I know I achieved S/S during the closed beta and a week into the full game. Ever since that moment, when I get used as a brake in T1 and drop from 1st to last I just quit the race and head back into qualifying.
If I'm having a close clean race with any other driver, and a third driver decides to smash into my opponent -thereby taking out my opponent and ruining my race- I'll go off throttle and wait for the culprit, I'll slow him down -cleanly- and allow my opponent to catch back up to us. I've done this a countless amount of times now and the 'dirty' driver in question is always left baffled - even last night on Yamagiwa in the R32 I had a race just like this - I was in a sweet clean fight with the guy that started behind me, he was a tenth slower than my pole and was breathing down my exhaust around the entire track until the final lap a 3rd dude found it necessary to ram my 'clean opponent' in the slow hairpin at full speed -it happened right in front of my nose as I was taking the outside line, my clean opponent on the inside line, as I turn i could see the dirty guy ram
the guy I was dueling with into the wall - we had a 10second lead on p4 - I was not impacted by this kamikaze move and was able to take my corner without losing time but I went off throttle because I noticed the dirty guy had taken p2 in my rear view.
Going into the final chicane before the final hairpin, I went through the chicane about 30kmh slower than possible- which allowed my clean opponent in p3 to catch the guy behind me and myself. In the final turn I allowed the clean racer to overtake me and I defended p2 cleanly. End of race: my clean opponent 1st, myself in p2 and a clean race bonus and a nice boost to driver rating ;)

Edit: I have the replay if anyone is interested - not sharing in this post tho to prevent naming/shaming.
 
Don't forget, there's plenty of people who had SR-S a race or two previously and got themselves into altercations with (especially) drivers of a certain South American country that (almost) all seem to have to regard what so ever for other drivers.

I'm back to S after a few days in the lower ranks after (another) such altercation as I mentioned above :P
 
BSDShoes
I've been in SR S since about the third day of GTS release and I have rarely had problems with others, went on a break for about a week over Christmas since I went out of town, just got back yesterday and it seems I'm running into some pretty bad SR S drivers.
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I was not out of town, otherwise verbatim.
Not sure what the holidays did, but, in three races I got wrecked to last place several times... some was over-exuberance (ok), some was just dirty(common now), one was plain malicious(really?)... finishing last 3 in a row... and I go out of my way to be a gentleman online...
 
cleanLX
I was not out of town, otherwise verbatim.
Not sure what the holidays did, but, in three races I got wrecked to last place several times... some was over-exuberance (ok), some was just dirty(common now), one was plain malicious(really?)... finishing last 3 in a row... and I go out of my way to be a gentleman online...
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Remember when we all started and getting to S was easy? I think the system takes time to sort you out properly, as opposed to making you work through the ranks. Plenty of new players ended up in S despite not being truly qualified to be there.
 
I love to read about all the vigilantism on these threads. I swear if they had police cars in the game with functioning lights., There would be more than enough people delighted to go out an dole out their own personal justice mid race. We would be mid race and see others pulled over for reckless driving. ;)
 
Another observation I have is it seems that lower ranks DR and not SR really attribute to dirty races. Maybe not malicious, but the lack of skill, and less than stellar race craft, often leads to contact.
 
LordDrift
Another observation I have is it seems that lower ranks DR and not SR really attribute to dirty races. Maybe not malicious, but the lack of skill, and less than stellar race craft, often leads to contact.
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Exactly. Thats why i said DR A/S SR S drivers are cleanest in my experience

You cant have regular close clean racing when the skill level of you and your competitors is not high enough to do so. Close clean racing is quite hard after all. Since the SR rating system is not harsh enough to really seperate the good from the bad the DR rating gets more important in finding clean races.

Sven Jurgens
SR-S ranges from 80 to 99. I like to keep it at 99 as high SR-S generally has cleaner races than low SR-S.
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Didnt knew SR S range started at 80. This is the real problem i think. SR S should be at least 95 imo.
 
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^^I like that, I don't think I'll ever be fast enough to be Dr.A, much less S, but, Sr.S at 95 would be nice... keep up slow, but nice, folks grouped together.
 
racer_xis
what i think happens also, is that some guys in high SR, sometimes can play dirty without trigger the penalties
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It's not that. It's that as a driver in S, you know you basically can maintain your high S rating with one or two opportunities to rub doors with opponents during a race.

If you keep your nose clean in S for most of a race, it is common for the last few laps to devolve into a scrap as the knives come out as drivers start to battle. I try to drive as cleanly as possible but when opponents get more aggressive you need to be ready for it and to give them exactly what they give you.
 
Shottah072
Exactly. Thats why i said DR A/S SR S drivers are cleanest in my experience

You cant have regular close clean racing when the skill level of you and your competitors is not high enough to do so. Close clean racing is quite hard after all. Since the SR rating system is not harsh enough to really seperate the good from the bad the DR rating gets more important in finding clean races.
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Today I had a lot of nice clean races on daily race B with B to D drivers. Then later I got matched with more A and some S and the room devolved into a lot of pushing and shoving. DR A drivers seem a lot more aggressive than DR B and don't hesitate to cut you off. DR.B / high SR.S is cleanest in my experience.

And I have driven a lot in different combinations looking for clean races, look at that graph lol. 565 races so far.
http://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=1495257
My SR has been steady since I gave up on FIA races. I haven't been able to find any clean racing there.
My DR still fluctuates a lot as I usually don't bother with qualifying. I don't play online to drive by myself... Yet after a couple races I'll qualify for 1 lap to set a base line not to have to deal with the clueless driver at the back.

Perhaps SR should not be dependent on race length. In a 10 lap race you can easily get away with a dirty last lap and still get a blue rating, while in a 3 lap race 2 bumps will put you at red. It should be the same no matter how long the race is. It would also be a lot better if bumps that result in the other player leaving the track get treated more severely than a slight touch in a corner without consequences.

And yes thanks to @Milouse that link is very cool.
 

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