SRinc.'s Can You Beat Jeremy Clarkson Challenge!!!

[SRinc.]

While replying to a previous post in another thread, another users qeustion gave me an idea. Rather than fill another thread with 'off-topic' ranting I created this thread. Also another reason behind this thread is so that users can post their times as well against Jeremy Clarkson. First I should go back to the Top Gear episode in which Jeremy Clarkson ran a 2001 Honda NSX around Laguna Seca in 1'41.148 and trying to beat that time in a real NSX. If I'm remembering correctly his real life time was 2'02 and change, anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. So I set out and beat Clarkson's time by a few ticks in a '01 NSX. Just recently I went back and did it again this time challenging Clarksons 1'41.148 with three NSX's. '92 Type R, '02 Type R, and a base model '01 NSX. So off to the races we go Clarkson and company see you at the finish line...

..:LAGUNA SECA NSX LAP TIMES:..

STOCK 1992 Honda NSX Type R
1'35.565

The '92 Type R was the most fun to drive, there's just something about the feel of it and the stock 5 speed gearbox is as good as a stock tranny can come. I must also add the suspension felt sporty and race like, which made for great cornering and maneuverability.

STOCK 2001 Honda NSX
1'36.151

I envy Jeremy Clarkson for driving an actual NSX at the actual Laguna Seca LoL. To be able to race it on Gran Turismo 4 and then to go on the real deal is a dream come true in my eyes though just a day in the office over at Top Gear. Now the '01 NSX was good but felt bulky and not as nimble as the Type R's. Still made for a great car and is excellent in many ways.

STOCK 2002 Honda NSX Type R
1'32.662

Though the '02 Type R was the fastest stock around Laguna Seca I really didn't quite like it as much as the '92 R and '01 NSX. Knowing I could go faster than the '01 NSX just because I'm using a Type R was the only plus side in the end. It's great on everything the others did and you can feel as well as tell its engineered and built to be just that. I like it and I'm left to wonder what Jeremy Clarkson time would be in a Type R on GT4 at Laguna Seca...

 

[in.s@ne]

Of course, the crucial thing to remember here is that when racing in real life, those walls are a lot scarier...

The realism factor kills the times for normal people.


Interesting idea nonetheless, although it seems his time was a bit easy to beat!

 

[SVX]

While replying to a previous post in another thread, another users qeustion gave me an idea. Rather than fill another thread with 'off-topic' ranting I created this thread. Also another reason behind this thread is so that users can post their times as well against Jeremy Clarkson. First I should go back to the Top Gear episode in which Jeremy Clarkson ran a 2001 Honda NSX around Laguna Seca in 1'41.148 and trying to beat that time in a real NSX. If I'm remembering correctly his real life time was 2'02 and change, anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. So I set out and beat Clarkson's time by a few ticks in a '01 NSX. Just recently I went back and did it again this time challenging Clarksons 1'41.148 with three NSX's. '92 Type R, '02 Type R, and a base model '01 NSX. So off to the races we go Clarkson and company see you at the finish line...

What are the specs for this one so I can give it a try?

 

[MadMax]

Stock in GT4 = S2 tyres, in real life they are N1 or N2.

So, which tyres did you use for the hotlapping in GT4?



MadMax

 

[SRinc.]

Stock S2 tires. I'm assuming Jeremy Clarkson didn't change the tires. But all stock specs, the three of them to answer your question.

 

[Austin343]

I actually did this recently with the '02 Type R on Economy tires (since they most realistically simulate the grip of this car, I think, unlike the S2s he used), and maintaining some realism by keeping all four tires on hard surfaces and not using the redline, I got a 1'43.6. I'm unsure of whether the real car could match that with a professional behind the wheel, since even with the least grippy tires available in the game, the car still has very high cornering speeds and short braking distances compared to what I imagine they would be in reality.

 

[SVX]

So all aids?

 

[SRinc.]

I actually did this recently with the '02 Type R on Economy tires (since they most realistically simulate the grip of this car, I think, unlike the S2s he used), and maintaining some realism by keeping all four tires on hard surfaces and not using the redline, I got a 1'43.6. I'm unsure of whether the real car could match that with a professional behind the wheel, since even with the least grippy tires available in the game, the car still has very high cornering speeds and short braking distances compared to what I imagine they would be in reality.

Yea I'm now thinking should I had ran them on the Eco tires but at the same time I wanted it to be what he used. But yes the cornering speed is NiCE and is a difference maker against the clock. The stock brakes felt 'soft' in a way, like you barely need to apply any pressure to get any of the three NSX's to lower speed for corner entries. The exit acceleration in the Type R's are another characteristic to note.

So all aids?

Yea, unfortunately those I left on too, I really don't know if Clarkson made any adjustments. So to run it I'd go with STOCK everything aids defaulted as well that's how I went about it.

 

[SVX]

Dang! I was going to edit it,
but my question is Arcade or GT?

 

[SRinc.]

LoL, GT mode.

 

[daan]

This was done at the time

 

[PF]

This was done at the time

... and a user beats everyone else by 0.6 using full-blown AIDS? A vid would be nice, I'd like to see how it's done. NOS perhaps?

Either way, all scores are impressive, doubt I'd get near anyone.

 

[SRinc.]

... and a user beats everyone else by 0.6 using full-blown AIDS? A vid would be nice, I'd like to see how it's done. NOS perhaps?

Either way, all scores are impressive, doubt I'd get near anyone.

No no nitrous was used. That's one thing I was sure Clarkson didn't use. I didn't alter the aids neither because that wasn't specified on Top Gear. If I were to allter any of the NSX from anything but stock I think the times would be a lot better, but i kept them stock minus the oil change.

 

[daan]

... and a user beats everyone else by 0.6 using full-blown AIDS? A vid would be nice, I'd like to see how it's done. NOS perhaps?

What are you on about? The guy with the fastest time is only .3 ahead, and he has supplied a replay.

 

[PF]

No no nitrous was used. That's one thing I was sure Clarkson didn't use. I didn't alter the aids neither because that wasn't specified on Top Gear. If I were to allter any of the NSX from anything but stock I think the times would be a lot better, but i kept them stock minus the oil change.

Sweet mate, but do you have a replay? I'd really like to see how you approach the course to get that sort of number. I'm not asking for OLR clean standard, but you must be using a few tricks to get that fast.

EDIT:@daan: I was referring to SRinc's claimed time of 1:32.x which was 0.6 sec faster than the best time recorded on the two-year-old thread. SRinc used AIDS and I was interested to see how he was able to use the car so much more effectively than others have done in the past.

 

[daan]

EDIT:@daan: I was referring to SRinc's claimed time of 1:32.x which was 0.6 sec faster than the best time recorded on the two-year-old thread. SRinc used AIDS and I was interested to see how he was able to use the car so much more effectively than others have done in the past.

Good point. I don't believe he beat hsh by 0.6 of a second either.

 

[SRinc.]

Sweet mate, but do you have a replay? I'd really like to see how you approach the course to get that sort of number. I'm not asking for OLR clean standard, but you must be using a few tricks to get that fast.

EDIT:@daan: I was referring to SRinc's claimed time of 1:32.x which was 0.6 sec faster than the best time recorded on the two-year-old thread. SRinc used AIDS and I was interested to see how he was able to use the car so much more effectively than others have done in the past.

I wish I had my old digital camera I would have tons of vids but at the moment no. Other than Laguna Seca being one of my favorite tracks and knowing it better than other courses is the only thing I can say was 'effective'. I also doubt Jeremy Clarkson plays GT4 on a daily basis so that I would call an advantage, while Clarkson's 1'41.148 was a good time it's no benchmark or 'WOW' time. I was interested to see those other times in that separate thread, they've got some pretty fast times as well.

Good point. I don't believe he beat hsh by 0.6 of a second either.

I wasn't aware of hsh time nor post on that other thread at the time I ran the 3 NSX. I doubt he's the 'fastest' guy on GT4 with a stock Type R NSX at Laguna Seca, he's just the fastest to prove it (on GTP). To ask and want to see proof I can and fully understand, but to discredit one or not believe ones time because lack of video proof is non sense.

 

[daan]

I wasn't aware of hsh time nor post on that other thread at the time I ran the 3 NSX. I doubt he's the 'fastest' guy on GT4 with a stock Type R NSX at Laguna Seca, he's just the fastest to prove it (on GTP). To ask and want to see proof I can and fully understand, but to discredit one or not believe ones time because lack of video proof is non sense.

It's nothing to do with lack of video proof. I just don't believe that you're 0.6 of a second faster than hsh in the same car at the same track while you're using ASM.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3100257&postcount=126
hsh beats HugoBoss and Mr P. 2 of the fastest GT players you're ever likely to meet.

Here he is winning a WRS race
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102502

And you beat him by 0.6 using ASM. I'm just not believing that.

 

[SRinc.]

Ok.

I'm going about this the wrong way. How i posted the times posted and it being faster than hsh's i don't know. I can run a stock NSX over and over and either get faster or slower but close numbers to the 3 posted above. Could it be because of the millage difference or because for this particular save game file I'm using a Greatest Hits version of GT4?

 

[MadMax]

I've done sofar:
'92 NSX-R - 1'35.569 (about 0.2 room for improvement for me)
'02 NSX-R - 1'34.809 (a bit more, 0.5 atleast left on the track)

Boght runs done with low mileage (aka max stock bhp) cars, 92 is a 6 mile'r and 02 is a new bought from Honda dealers.

Boght cars had an oil change done giving the '92 303 BHP and '02 310 BHP
And the TCS and ASM were left as in stock.

[offtopic]I did 1'31.269 with the NSX-R '02[/offtopic]
T1 23.216
T2 44.968
T3 1'07.852


MadMax

 

[the.hatter]

Good thread SRinc, exactly what I was curious about

I'm waiting on some hardware so I can't play at the moment (due to arrive any day). Once I get it I'll see what time I can get!

It's funny daan posted a link to another thread - I swear the search function on this forum is not the best, or I'm not using it correctly. Or maybe there are way too many threads or something. I specifically search "Clarkson, top gear, laguna" and did not hit on that other thread the other day! It should have been the number one hit.

Also you guys are getting way too upset about legitimacy of SRinc's time. Who cares? I frequent other forums (Saab Central and Ranger Forums) and must say I am disappointed as a new member of this one as to all the bickering that goes on. Maybe that's just how video game forums are?

Back on topic, thanks for starting this thread SRinc. You get the impression from the Top Gear episode that Clarkson wasn't an expert in Gran Turismo, and I guess that's true.

 

[matherto]

FWIW, Clarkson did it in arcade mode, I know that for sure.

Really don't know how much different the times would be in GT Mode if at all.

I was already to say I started a thread like this ages ago and then I come into here and someone has already linked to it.

I completely forgot about it till I saw your thread title, and now I might have to dust off my copy of GT4.

 

[SRinc.]

I've done sofar:
'92 NSX-R - 1'35.569 (about 0.2 room for improvement for me)
'02 NSX-R - 1'34.809 (a bit more, 0.5 atleast left on the track)

Boght runs done with low mileage (aka max stock bhp) cars, 92 is a 6 mile'r and 02 is a new bought from Honda dealers.

Boght cars had an oil change done giving the '92 303 BHP and '02 310 BHP
And the TCS and ASM were left as in stock.

[offtopic]I did 1'31.269 with the NSX-R '02[/offtopic]
T1 23.216
T2 44.968
T3 1'07.852


MadMax

Ok see your times are right around a ballpark of mine. My cars same deal bonestock minus the oil change and yes the '02 Type R was bought new. The '92 has 48,058 miles on it. It's in the works of being fully tuned I fell in love with the '92 Type R.

Good thread SRinc, exactly what I was curious about

I'm waiting on some hardware so I can't play at the moment (due to arrive any day). Once I get it I'll see what time I can get!

It's funny daan posted a link to another thread - I swear the search function on this forum is not the best, or I'm not using it correctly. Or maybe there are way too many threads or something. I specifically search "Clarkson, top gear, laguna" and did not hit on that other thread the other day! It should have been the number one hit.

Also you guys are getting way too upset about legitimacy of SRinc's time. Who cares? I frequent other forums (Saab Central and Ranger Forums) and must say I am disappointed as a new member of this one as to all the bickering that goes on. Maybe that's just how video game forums are?

Back on topic, thanks for starting this thread SRinc. You get the impression from the Top Gear episode that Clarkson wasn't an expert in Gran Turismo, and I guess that's true.

Thanks for stopping in. Yea I see and unfortunately at times get caught up in a bicker, why? I can't say. But back to the topic yea I don't think Jeremy Clarkson plays GT4 more than I do and I'm sure I could beat him on any track with the same exact car . I wasn't aware of any threads similar to it at the time of post it just dawned on me and I posted the thread. So I'm with you there, there wasn't a need for the link. I don't know if it being in arcade mode makes a difference or not, if there is one I will find out.

 

[needreartires]

if i remember he was using a dual-shock controller

 

[DK]

I've done sofar:
'92 NSX-R - 1'35.569 (about 0.2 room for improvement for me)
'02 NSX-R - 1'34.809 (a bit more, 0.5 atleast left on the track)

Boght runs done with low mileage (aka max stock bhp) cars, 92 is a 6 mile'r and 02 is a new bought from Honda dealers.

Boght cars had an oil change done giving the '92 303 BHP and '02 310 BHP
And the TCS and ASM were left as in stock.

[offtopic]I did 1'31.269 with the NSX-R '02[/offtopic]
T1 23.216
T2 44.968
T3 1'07.852


MadMax

Ok see your times are right around a ballpark of mine.

He didn't get those times in the same ballpark as you, I think he hit it out of the freakin' park!

 

[hsh]

Heated debate went on here.
Thought I throw in a video from YT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWSXvYqDhw

Arcade mode 0.2-0.3 secs. in there..... tops!

 

[MadMax]

Nice and smooth driving there , sir. 👍

The way we have been running this is GT Mode>stocky stock NSX-R '92 and '02 TCS and ASM stock too. ( +I had an oil chance )

Taking the aids off obviously makes the car faster and then Arcade mode specs on weight part is allways a little suspicious.

The 1'31.269 time of mine isn't fake , but I did abuse a glitch (I happened to find) in the game to archieve that time.



MadMax

 

[DK]

Whatever happened to SRinc anyway? He hasn't posted in ages.

 

[sgtstix]

heres something to challenge us how about going round the nurburgring in a ff car in under 8.17 sec or there abouts just like the new renault meganne r26r did.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

heres something to challenge us how about going round the nurburgring in a ff car in under 8.17 sec or there abouts just like the new renault meganne r26r did.

8.17 seconds??