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/// BUGATTI VEYRON @ EIGER NORDWAND ///
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Thanks for that. Having the Bugatti Veyron as a standard model is stupid and frustrating and it is already a legendary car. Porting it from GT PSP seems ridiculous. Hopefully it will be updated to premium as part of the October content additions - Imagine the stunning interior in beautiful GT5 graphics. If this happens I would love the ability to be able to paint both colours separately.
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Are you kidding me? The Veyron legendary? For what? Having a lot of BHP?
The one and only reason people know the car s because of the power. It's a pathetic car for people who can't drive. Hence why the car is basically driven by computers... There's no reason what so ever for that junk to be Premium. The car is a disgrace to the car industry.
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Ignorance is bliss, huh? I really think you've misunderstood the depth of engineering and the amount of resources it took to produce the Veryon. The fact that you don't have to be a professional driver to use a 1000 bhp car, and that it can be used daily should speak for itself...
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Of course you don't need to be a good driver to drive a car that is being kept in control by computers... engineering depth? please. Any manufacturer can put a large engine into a car. There's no innovation, nor is there any sense of passion in the design. It's a car that has no idea what it wants to be.
You weren't the one who called it legendary, but I have to ask. What exactly makes it legendary? It's ridicules amount of power? In my view, legendary cars have earned their place by either an amazing achievement in racing, or by innovation. Not just for having a ridicules amount of power.
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254 mph/407 km/h? That doesn't impress you, from a road car? That takes a lot more than just sticking an engine in and pressing the throttle to the floor. Let's start with the platform (chassis if you like):
- I assume its a one off, and platforms are massively expensive to develop. There's a reason why car manufacturer's use cross-platform vehicles.
- The engine meets EURO5 emissions standards. Certainly made more achievable with forced induction and a tall 7th gear, but still impressive for a 1000 bhp engine!
- Those computers? Care to have a guess how many parameters have to be considered just to manage four turbos. Leading on from that, how about heat management? Again massively complicated and will have taken many man-hours to perfect.
I won't list more but the total work (and cost) to develop it will have been huge. VW didn't have to make the car, but they wanted to make the world's fastest production car and did so.
I notice you're a McLaren fan, well how about we compare the F1 to the Veryon. The McLaren is the perfect car for going fast, but... only on a track. There's no way you can expect to use all of its power in anything other than perfect conditions on the road, whereas the Veryon has such a spread of abilities you can use its power.
Is it a legendary car? Yes of course, it will be remembered and revered for a long, long time. Does it lack soul? Yeah it probably does a bit, but that's much more subjective. I think perhaps you need to consider what the Veryon really is; the ultimate grand tourer, not perhaps the ultimate supercar. It does lack driver involvement, but it was never intended as a track car.
To call the car "a disgrace" to the car industry is utterly stupid, and the very definition of arrogance.
Anyway this isn't really the place to discuss it, I don't think we're going to agree, so lets get back to seeing some more GT5 standards!
(More Veryon's please
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It's not very impressive considering the 4 turboes, and the amount of power. Some people have speculated that the McLaren F1 might have been able to reach that speed, had it just had a 7th gear. And that is with much less power, no computers, and a natural aspirated engine. You're right about this not being the right place for the discussion, but I'm much too stubborn to let that stop me
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Jawehawk
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I like how a few pictures and an opinion can cause 4 posts of bickering. And just to irritate you, I'm going to say 'VEYRON FTW!!!'
I won't "slaughter" anyone fore having an opinion. You're entitled to your opinion, same as the other guy. Then again, maybe I should contribiute to the thread with some pictures of standard cars 💡.
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What did I start? Sorry guys! Veyron vs F1 is a battle which has been ongoing for years now and is percieved by some as a battle where you can support one and dislike the other.
This is ridiculous as from the conception of these wonderful cars they had different focus - McLaren F1 as the ultimate supercar and Bugatti Veyron as the ultimate grand tourer. Chalk and cheese. I love the F1 and the no compromise approach Gordon Murray and his team took in engineering it.
Equally I love the Veyron for it's massive speed, fabulous looks, unrivalled sense of drama and it's no compromise approach to achieving Ferdinand Piëchs vision.
Both are wonderful cars and examples of automotive engineering at it's best. The Veyron will go down in the annals of time as a legend but not as a drivers car like the F1 has. It will be remembered for being the ultimate GT.
Let us enjoy them both...
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This is ridiculous as from the conception of these wonderful cars they had different focus - McLaren F1 as the ultimate supercar and Bugatti Veyron as the ultimate grand tourer. Chalk and cheese. I love the F1 and the no compromise approach Gordon Murray and his team took in engineering it.
Equally I love the Veyron for it's massive speed, fabulous looks, unrivalled sense of drama and it's no compromise approach to achieving Ferdinand Piëchs vision.
Both are wonderful cars and examples of automotive engineering at it's best. The Veyron will go down in the annals of time as a legend but not as a drivers car like the F1 has. It will be remembered for being the ultimate GT.
Let us enjoy them both...
Here is a standard car!
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I still can't get over how good this came out. Especially the wheels
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It's not very impressive considering the 4 turboes, and the amount of power. Some people have speculated that the McLaren F1 might have been able to reach that speed, had it just had a 7th gear. And that is with much less power, no computers, and a natural aspirated engine. You're right about this not being the right place for the discussion, but I'm much too stubborn to let that stop me
But it's the whole car that is the feat of engineering, rather than one part. The Quad-Turbos on the Veyron still had to be designed to fit the car's remit perfectly, and then actually pull off the feat of reaching the 250+mph speeds it so easily does.
The Veyron is the ultimate sum of it's parts.
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