"Standards" the good, the bad and the ugly

[MidFieldMaven]

Oh, well okay then lol.

It just sounds bad when you say stuff like "Get rid of standard cars!"

Instead maybe say "Make premium all current standard cars!"

 

[Samus]

Well, not all of them. That's not likely but also not required. There are maybe 150/200 current standard cars that are "must haves", the rest aren't going to be missed by the majority, which is what PD should be catering to.

 

[TheProRacer]

Don't hate me for saying this. There is only one car I want premium. I want a premium Fiat Punto!

Just kidding... I want at least 500 fully modeled cars in GT7. We have 407 now. You've got this PD!

 

[CrazyBrazilian]

Relax guys, we should have a lot of premium in the next GT because PD will take all the Premiums from GT5 and GT6.

 

[SaulWolfden]

I just want to see the good standard vehicles (like the RUFs) become premium and remain while the absurd number of duplicates be removed. As I have stated before, there is zero reason for any standard of a car to exist if a premium version exists, it is nothing but unnecessary fluff.

 

[FoRiZon]

Hey, die hard standard car fans. If you all want standard cars so bad, forget GT6. Forget Gran Turismo series all together.

Grid Autosport is on our way!!!!

It has a NFS Shift-like blurred and shaky cam! No cockpit but if GT7 will delete all standard cars, atleast we have a game to relieve the memories (or nightmare)

 

[FT-1]

That picture was from a very early build of GRID Autosport. The release build has got a low-res dashboard which is blurred out, so there is at least some detail rather than none at all.

 

[CeeJay]

GRID has it's problems but I'd be much happier with standards in GT6 if they had cockpit views like GRID has. If you're not going to model the interior at least make it feel like you're actually inside a car, not running around a circuit with black construction paper taped to your monitor.



While I like the very detailed interiors of the Premium cars w/ the drivers hands and stuff I have to say if I had a wheel set up I'd almost prefer a view like GRID where you were up overlooking the dashboard through the windshield, that would be a much more appropriate view than having an extra set of hands and a wheel on the screen.

 

[CrazyBrazilian]

I know that you guys gonna kil me but, anyway.

NFS Shift 2 has 🤬 gameplay but Im really impressive with interior view and the way where the driver move the head while driving. Its some really nice detail, more realistic. The problem is, the cars bumps a LOT, hate it so much....

 

[silverman_GT]

Hey, die hard standard car fans. If you all want standard cars so bad, forget GT6. Forget Gran Turismo series all together.

Grid Autosport is on our way!!!!

It has a NFS Shift-like blurred and shaky cam! No cockpit but if GT7 will delete all standard cars, atleast we have a game to relieve the memories (or nightmare)

I have a feeling of Deja Vu.....

 

[glassjaw]

GRID has it's problems but I'd be much happier with standards in GT6 if they had cockpit views like GRID has. If you're not going to model the interior at least make it feel like you're actually inside a car, not running around a circuit with black construction paper taped to your monitor.



While I like the very detailed interiors of the Premium cars w/ the drivers hands and stuff I have to say if I had a wheel set up I'd almost prefer a view like GRID where you were up overlooking the dashboard through the windshield, that would be a much more appropriate view than having an extra set of hands and a wheel on the screen.

If you want your game to have a cockpit cam but can't because of performance issues/lacking time or resources to model/etc., this is the way you do it. Nearly as immersive as the real thing, yet not as jarringly ugly and terrible as GT's solution.

 

[SaulWolfden]

GRID has it's problems but I'd be much happier with standards in GT6 if they had cockpit views like GRID has. If you're not going to model the interior at least make it feel like you're actually inside a car, not running around a circuit with black construction paper taped to your monitor.



While I like the very detailed interiors of the Premium cars w/ the drivers hands and stuff I have to say if I had a wheel set up I'd almost prefer a view like GRID where you were up overlooking the dashboard through the windshield, that would be a much more appropriate view than having an extra set of hands and a wheel on the screen.

This would work perfectly if they used something like that for standard interiors.

 

[Nooboogering]

Well, not all of them. That's not likely but also not required. There are maybe 150/200 current standard cars that are "must haves", the rest aren't going to be missed by the majority, which is what PD should be catering to.

All of this.
Sony needs GT7 to sell. The priority has to be a balanced list of cars old and new. PD have to be careful to not put duplicates of the MX5's and Skylines, etc.
E30 duplicates are most welcome though.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

This car was butt ugly in GT5, looks a bit better now.

 

[tankuroded]

All of this.
Sony needs GT7 to sell. The priority has to be a balanced list of cars old and new. PD have to be careful to not put duplicates of the MX5's and Skylines, etc.
E30 duplicates are most welcome though.

You said you want a balanced car list yet you welcomed E30 duplicates, which is hypocritical. Fans will moan about any duplicates. In fact, when I made a suggestion for a rally car, someone suggested that fans will complain if there is too many rally cars in the game.

 

[TokoTurismo]

This car was butt ugly in GT5, looks a bit better now.

You sure bout that? You should buy it and check it in photo travel/photomode, it's still butt ugly.

 

[Nooboogering]

You said you want a balanced car list yet you welcomed E30 duplicates, which is hypocritical. Fans will moan about any duplicates. In fact, when I made a suggestion for a rally car, someone suggested that fans will complain if there is too many rally cars in the game.

Yes you're right.
Love the car though and it will balance out the ratio of Euro cars to Japanese cars.

 

[sems4arsenal]

What? http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...er&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

 

[Gerarghini]

What? http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...er&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

Yeah, because I doubt there are fans of the GS 300 Vertex edition

Is he really that naive? Does he not see games like DriveClub, Forza, and PCars are 🤬 on PD's standard cars? This isn't a matter of keeping cars that are important to the fans it's about moving forward. 👎.

It's like he's earned nothing from GT5 and 6. I mean read the comments on the article, see for yourself.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Yeah, because I doubt there are fans of the GS 300 Vertex edition

Is he really that naive? Does he not see games like DriveClub, Forza, and PCars are 🤬 on PD's standard cars? This isn't a matter of keeping cars that are important to the fans it's about moving forward. 👎.

He's blind and arrogant, that's what.

 

[SSQES]

He's blind and arrogant, that's what.

How keeping the standards mean he is arrogant???

 

[Gerarghini]

How keeping the standards mean he is arrogant???

Assets from a 2001 game in one that is from 2015+ and crosses 2 generations. No other game to my knowledge does that.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Assets from a 2001 game in one that is from 2015+ and crosses 2 generations. No other game to my knowledge does that.

 

[SSQES]

Assets from a 2001 game in one that is from 2015+ and crosses 2 generations. No other game to my knowledge does that.

Yes, but that doesn't answer my question. And as I already said, it doesn't affect the number of premiums cars (already bigger than most if not every racing game)

 

[Gerarghini]

Yes, but that doesn't answer my question. And as I already said, it doesn't affect the number of premiums cars (already bigger than most if not every racing game)

That's true, GT does have the largest "premium" car list, so why bother keeping standards that are just filler and most are duplicates.

It's not a matter of cars here and there, but a matter of quality. PD needs to step up there game if they're going to compete with the slew of racing games from here on out.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

*facepillow* (it's when I smack my face into a pillow)
Dammit, dammit, dammit. Just why?! WHY?!

I just can't believe it, do they want their franchise to die? Just why do they feel the need to have PS2 cars in a PS4 game when they already modeled 420+ high-quality cars. It makes no sense.

 

[SSQES]

That's true, GT does have the largest "premium" car list, so why bother keeping standards that are just filler and most are duplicates.

It's not a matter of cars here and there, but a matter of quality. PD needs to step up there game if they're going to compete with the slew of racing games from here on out.

Because the standards are for most part of the GT history. Kaz though that would make a lot of fan happy, but he just divised the fanbase more lol

 

[GGGMotorsport]

I dont understand why its sooooo bad to include the standard cars? If you dont like then, dont use them. Some folks like them so whats the harm?

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I dont understand why its sooooo bad to include the standard cars? If you dont like then, dont use them. Some folks like them so whats the harm?

The harm is that it affects how seriously people take their franchise, taking PS2 content into the PS4 age is a very risky move to make as to a lot of people; quality matters more than quantity as well as consistency. Graphical consistancy is important in a sim and if a player sees a PS2 car while racing, it ruins the immersion.

 

[Gerarghini]

Because the standards are for most part of the GT history. Kaz though that would make a lot of fan happy, but he just divised the fanbase more lol

Yeah well he sure as hell is going to lose fans if he keeps standards as well so PD have to choose something, but they chose quantity >quality like they always do.