Steering Wheel tips

[Shalkification]

Yo Guys
i Bought a Driving Force GT steering wheel 2 Weeks ago and i have to say firstly it has improved my experience with the game dramatically, but the only problem i am having is getting used to it.

I know that Practice makes Perfect, and you should start off slow (i am just working on practicing now), so i am wondering can anyone offer any tips or tricks they used to get used to using a steering wheel.

i Would apprecitate any help anyone can offer even if it is telling me to just practice more

 

[GBWH1991]

I'd suggest practicing by completing the early races again in cars with slightly less PP than the opponent cars. By doing this, you'll be gradually building up the skills to feel comfortable with more powerful cars after starting with around 130bhp and FWD to the fastest cars available

 

[stormbringer]

start a new account, redo licences and events

 

[NikoBellic]

It's hard to learn to use a wheel at first. I have the same one and it's still tough... But practice makes perfect.

 

[juicy2]

start a new account, redo licences and events

this

 

[Shalkification]

thanks guys ill have to try either doing this from scratch using one of the other accounts i created for MAGor just do the lower end races to get used to this thanks for the adivce everyone!

 

[Johnnypenso]

I started the game with the DFGT. Recently I tried tuning a car and driving with the DS3 for the first time...that was an experience in itself.

Based on my experience with the game my advice is this:

You have to separate out the driving effects of you and the wheel, from the car you are driving. Take out a 600PP Lambo with a poor tune and it's going to be loose on some tracks and the back end will want to kick out under heavy braking. Take out a GT-R and it'll push like crazy cornering with a poor tune. This is the car, not the wheel or you, but I've noticed a lot of guys have trouble distinguishing between the two. If you are assuming it's you, it'll just frustrate you and you won't learn anything about the wheel.

So my advice would be to hook up with a tuner like Praiano, or any of the major tuning garages, all of whom are pretty helpful and friendly, and tell them you want a lower powered tuned car, say in the 400-450 PP range, on Sports Tires for now (Comforts a bit later) so it's forgiving but not stuck to the road like glue, Front Engine/Rear Drive, and has very neutral handling. This is the key, neutral handling and Front Engine rear drive.

Take this one car, or couple of cars and drive them with your wheel on Tsukuba, Deep Forest or Trial Mountain, and maybe Nurb GP/D. This will give you a mix of tight hairpins, sweepers, grades, corner camber and speed. Take the car out with it's fully tuned gearbox, and just run laps on those tracks to start with. Run 20, 30, 40 laps to really imprint the feel of this car onto your brain, because you will learn from this car what every other FR car should feel like.

Why do this? Because once you know what a neutral car feels like with limited grip, you will know what a car is supposed to feel like and when you run across any other FR car and find the back end kicking out under braking or under hard corner exit, or on a cambered corner, you'll know it's not you it's the car. Much of the time you can feather the throttle or brakes to drive around the imperfections in a tune, or adjust the tune to take car of the problem, but it's so important to separate the effects of a poorly tuned car from your driving that I would not recommend any other way of learning how to drive.

A car like the Nissan Silvia or RX8 at 450PP is a great place to start if it's well tuned. I'd start on Sports Softs and then switch to Sport Hards and Comfort Softs if it's going well. A good Sport tire tune will be adaptable to that.

 

[OK8]

Stock RX7 spirit or RX8-s are the perfect cars for neutral handling 450pp.

 

[Eric W]

Practice, practice, practice.

 

[QB1o]

do a few dozen laps of a twisty track in the rain in a low powered rear wheel drive car.
Suzuka or Nurburgring are ideal.

It will help you learn how much turning it takes to break free of a slide without giving it too much or too little countersteer.

RX7, RX8 are good as OK8 says, I'd also recommend a Chrysler Crossfire/Mercedes SLK 230 on stock tyres.

here's some advice that might help;

*Be smooth with steering inputs. Don't jerk the wheel, and try to be smooth always.

*To help you be smooth you'll want to look as far down the road as you can, just like in a real car. Look way down the road and the car will nearly take the corner itself.

*Find a car you really like and drive it a lot. There's a lot to be said for not using a different car every six minutes, it gives you a chance to learn the limits of that car. This helps with the muscle memory reactions you'll need if you ever want to beat OK8 in a race 👍

*the best way to learn any track is by going around it a load of times with sh**ty tyres on. Learn to love the comfort soft tyres, they're well worth a look-in.

hope some of this helps, happy driving.

So my advice would be to hook up with a tuner like Praiano

Excellent advice! Those tunes transform cars into better cars!

 

[DA__dogg]

Yes as you know it takes time. I re-did a lot of the early A spec races. Took me a month or two before I felt comfortable but after that it was smooth sailing for the most part lol. Grats on your wheel! 👍

 

[Kamdoon]

start a new account, redo licences and events

Ditto. That's what I did. The licenses are especially useful. I would do what Johnny Penso suggested also, but I can personally vouch for starting from "scratch."

Welcome to the club, though -- I can guarantee you will never look back!!! You will wonder how in the world you ever played with a controller.

 

[byegad]

I started with cars in the 700+pp range and struggled. Keep below 500pp, set the feedback to 1 or 2 and drive. Once you are feeling happier about the speed you are making; up the feedback by 1 or 2 and drive again. Also try upping the pp value gradually. You'll be able to set the Feedback level higher as you go along and drive more and more powerful cars.

I also set the flappy paddles to both be reverse. Where the wheel is a lot slower than the DS3 is getting you back on track if you end up head on into a solid object. Reversing on the DS3 is a matter of putting your thumb on the Triangle button and full lock to opposite full lock is an inch of thumb movement away. The wheel drives like a real car so it is much slower to get sorted after an accident. The fact that the position of the triangle moves with the wheel makes it hard to a) find it and b) hard to keep pressed as you twiddle the wheel.

I now have a high Feedback level and am faster with fewer Aids than I ever was on the DS3.

 

[Woodski_427]

Unless you have a lot of time, I don't know if I'd bother starting form scratch!

I would say it's definitely helpful going back to the licence tests - this is what I did when I first got a wheel for GT4. Didn't do all of them; some basic ones to start and then pick and choose for a variety of cars and corners.

I would also say to start your wheel life without any aids except ABS 1, that way there'll be no adjustment later on when/if you decide to stop using them.

Good advice above about picking 450-500pp to start and definitely Sports (Hard IMO) tyres to get the feel.

I found an appreciation of FF once I got to grips with the wheel - much easier to control the power understeer. And driving the 'Ring is a much more enjoyable experience in anything!

Good luck:tup:

 

[snowgt]

I would recommend taking a Lotus Elise on Comfort Tyres out on some twisty circuit and turn every helper off except for ABS=1.

This maybe seem too difficult at first, but you learn how cars actually react when you do certain things like braking while turning in, or how to make the car steer with the throttle. This will make you quite quickly aware of what you can expect and what you have to avoid.

I learned it the hard way with a wheel with Richard Burns Rally, which to this day is one of the best simulations, and the experience I gained there still helps me today. GT5 has a lot steeper learning curve, so you should be able to make progress much quicker.

 

[Iso Octane]

Turn FFB strength to lowest and power steering to on.

I feel this is the most realistic way to go as the steering is abnormally stiff off center. This helps fix it so you're not fighting the FFB stiffness when you make very small steering puts.

 

[W1GGYPS3]

hi am gone take the advice on here too as i all so not long ago well just after xmas got a driving force wheel i love it on other driving games but just can't seem to find a happy blance on gt5 wich i love to death but the wheel makes it feel like the car is not turn very well on conners and just slids out all the time

 

[Paul2448]

start a new account, redo licences and events

That's really the best advice. I started playing GT5 as soon as I got my DFGT, and you can tell your getting better as you progress, and when I went back to games like DiRT 2 and GT5P to compare times with the wheel vs my old controller times, I noticed drops of seconds in lap times.

Also, when you start doing races with the DFGT, I recommend staying away from racing tyres and going with the harder, less grippy tyres grades. It's easy enough to overpower the AI with cars, and you're better off going on lower grade tyres to help improve your skill.

 

[Shalkification]

i have started over guys on my alt account and i am already noticing improvements it will take time but i am on my way just finished the first series using mostly un-modded cars (my favourite to use have been the mini coper S '07 and one of the clio sports) i havn't been using racing tyres mostly because it's tyres or new cars if i need them so i have just been going for new cars, it is pleseant starting over again makes me realise how far i have acctually come in GT5, and JohnnyPenso i know it's about half me and half car, i knew which cars i had that have over or understeering problems and i know how to fix these problems with either my driving or tunning i think it was just a case of acctually getting comfortable with the wheel instead of the analoge stick but i will take your advice in mind with the tunning because i would sayi am an adept tunner and talking to someone about may help my expirence with getting used the the wheel

Sidenote thanks for the adivce people it surprises me how nice you all are you probably get this question alot and probably go "not another noob" i appreciate all the help

 

[thedeester1]

start a new account, redo licences and events

This is what I did too. I started using a wheel In gt 5 Prologue. Id been driving real cars for 15 years but a game wheel still took some getting used to. I still cant use the clutch properly. On my G25 it has to be all the way down to change. Ive never driven a real car that needs the clutch so far down so I miss gears almost constantly.

 

[genius73]

clutch blows on g25/27/. i drive automatic.

 

[1241Penguin]

clutch blows on g25/27/. i drive automatic.

It's the game, not your wheel. The clutch in-game is very insensible, it's very hard to find a point where you can drive with the clutch partly in. (I know you wouldn't do this IRL, but just pointing that out).