i'm using subaru impreza wrx sti ver.VI and i thinks it's really cool.what do u think ? right now i'm using the default tuning with high modification.could anyone suggest the best tuning for my car ? and one more thing, which one is better - Evolution VI RS vs. Subaru Impreza WRX STi ver.VI
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yes!!! yes!!! i have a Racing Modified WRX STi Ver. VI also!! so far i have the best setup right now.. (for me that is)
The AWD that the car comes equipped with will make the car understeer a bit.......not that it has a lot of it. The default suspension settings are pretty good......i've learned to go more extreme with it as learned to control it with the default settings...
The setting on my car will make the rear end a bit loose if you haven't driven it like that and you might spin out more then the default settings. The whole car responds to steering input really good. Quite responsive i'd say. The gearing that i currently have on it car short gearing. They give you a top speed of 194ish mph. The 1st gear is quite tall. Set at 65mph in 1st gear. I made it tall so i can have a shorter gearing.
BTW, my car doesn't use any Active Stability Control or Traction Control. I don't use electronics to help me turn. I turn and control the vehicle at my full potential.
PM me if you want to try it out. (settings)
anyways.........
i like the WRX STi's because they'll grip more then the EVO's. Such as in a turn...the EVO will slide more easly than the WRX STi.
i've beaten my buddie's EVO V GSR plenty of times. It all depends on the tuning. Hek, i don't even have a EVO....not that they're bad but i like the WRX STi's gripping levels better then the EVO.
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The AWD that the car comes equipped with will make the car understeer a bit.......not that it has a lot of it. The default suspension settings are pretty good......i've learned to go more extreme with it as learned to control it with the default settings...
The setting on my car will make the rear end a bit loose if you haven't driven it like that and you might spin out more then the default settings. The whole car responds to steering input really good. Quite responsive i'd say. The gearing that i currently have on it car short gearing. They give you a top speed of 194ish mph. The 1st gear is quite tall. Set at 65mph in 1st gear. I made it tall so i can have a shorter gearing.
BTW, my car doesn't use any Active Stability Control or Traction Control. I don't use electronics to help me turn. I turn and control the vehicle at my full potential.
PM me if you want to try it out. (settings)
anyways.........
i like the WRX STi's because they'll grip more then the EVO's. Such as in a turn...the EVO will slide more easly than the WRX STi.
i've beaten my buddie's EVO V GSR plenty of times. It all depends on the tuning. Hek, i don't even have a EVO....not that they're bad but i like the WRX STi's gripping levels better then the EVO.
FuJi
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http://geocities.com/pink_i4k
I use a Lancer Evolution VI RS. I think it's better than Impreza WRX STI. I don't install turbo parts on my Lancer because i think my car don't need turbo and the two of it just don't mix together.
However, if there is anyone out there is using the same car, can you please help me on tuning the TCSS and ATSC controller and pretty much anything else that is technical like suspensions, stabilizers and camber and prety much everything. Just give me your setup.
I had bought every parts available for my EVO except turbo parts. My EVO produces 192 MPH on the max speed test. That's All
Pojam.
However, if there is anyone out there is using the same car, can you please help me on tuning the TCSS and ATSC controller and pretty much anything else that is technical like suspensions, stabilizers and camber and prety much everything. Just give me your setup.
I had bought every parts available for my EVO except turbo parts. My EVO produces 192 MPH on the max speed test. That's All
Pojam.
Well I haven't had the chance to test those two excelent cars, yet. But I own a 22B STi Version which I found in Subaru used cars, and it's going quite well. Another thing, I heard that after you save 10 top speed records your garage is erased. I don' t know is it true, but hey, let's be careful.
P.S. Pardon my English, I'm from Croatia
P.S. Pardon my English, I'm from Croatia
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so you must have like 334hp ish or something without turbo upgrade but with exhaust and engine upgrades?
lets see......i tried to tune the EVO a lot of times. i did a slaloom test and the EVO's rear end will loose traction and oversteer into a 4 wheel drift. I gave it more camber which did cure it but at high speed turns, the EVO's rear end won't pop out.
That's probably why you need eletronics like the YAW Control so you can turn better with the EVO.
Tuning
If you want to make your car oversteer more i.e. like a rear wheel drive car, you'll have to stiffen the rear suspension.
Spring Rates at the rear should be higher than the front front 1lb - 3 lbs
Camber setting at front should be more than the rear. My settings for the WRX STi VI is 3.1 front, 1.3 rear. i dunno if that'll be good for the EVO but that's a n example.
Ride height will determine your car's grip levels also. Sometimes all you need to do is lower......but......everything ties into the best setup. i have the rear set at it's highest and the front 3 clicks higher from it's lowest for suspension travel.
Toe setting are a critical thing to do. They say you'll get oversteer with toe out (\ /) but i don't beleave it. It depends where in the turn the car is at. With all-wheel-drive, you can throttle-steer by letting go of your throttle and your car will turn in. When you accelerate, you'll understeer because that's how all-wheel-drive works.
Look at it this way. This is what i found out with the Toe out and Toe in at the front suspension.
Toe out
When you're at the entry of the turn, you turn in and the car will turn in and be very responsive. When you're in half way, the car will start to understeer. You're halfway in the turn and exiting and the car will understeer because you have more weight load onto the outside tires, which are set at toe out (\ /).
this helps your turn in but doesn't help when Exiting a turn.
Toe in
When i set Toe in at the front, the car was a but less responsive but the dampers cured that (i'll talk about the dampers in a bit). Turn in and the car will be a bit sluggish but halfway and to the exit, you can power out of the turn like a bat from hell. Because that's when there is load to the outside tires. Turn in doen't matter much to me, it's when you're in the turn actually.
This help when you're exiting the turn, which i perfer.
Dampers
dampers are what cures your car from hopping up and down when you go over a bump. It also determines how fast weight transfers to the wheels when you're braking and cornering.
i have my rebound dampers set higher than the bound and with that, the car was more responsive. Setting the rear harder than the front will also give you more oversteer which helps in AWD cars.
Stabilizers
This is what cures the body roll. This isn't the only equippment that cures it. Harder springs and lowering your car cures body roll also. See how every other suspension part ties in? You can make your car handle different by adjusting the stabilizer levels. Your make the rear end harder by setting the level higher. The higher the level, the bigger the bar is. Bar, i mean the stabilizer bar. If you don't know, a stabilizer is also know as sway bar or anti-roll bar. It is bolted onto the left suspneion and to the right suspension.
The bar is bent like this-----> |_____|
Near the the ends where it bends up, there are mounts there that mounts to the chassis of the car. When you lift one side of the bar, lift the top part where the bar ends, the other side lifts. Look at it careflly to understand. Take a paper clip and bend it like the example above and tape the part that is horizontal onto a piece of carboard that isn't wider than the sway bar. Lift one side and you'll see what i mean.
When cornering, one side of the suspenion will drop while the other side moves up because the car is leaning. The thickness of the bar will determine the resistance of the suspension moving up and down.
Are there any questions? feel free to correct anything if you guys who know more about it than me.
BTW, i' only 16.......
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the new age impreza doesn't look as aggressive as the 1st generation. it does have a beeter areodynamic though. The headlights are just too round. The looks of the 2nd generation impreza is not as good looking but it's chassis is by far much stiffer.
the round lights will get some use to........the 2nd generation WRC car is better looking then the street version.
the round lights will get some use to........the 2nd generation WRC car is better looking then the street version.
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- old-guy64
Guys, The best between the Impreza and the Lancer is the Skyline. It's heavier, yes but it is already geared for top end speed. The other two are geared to be lightning quick, and require patience and tweeking to handle good.
Fuji, the new Impreza does look like something my 70 year old aunt Wilma would drive. But then she drives very fast..Who cares what the front looks like. Everyone that revs on you will quickly be shown the back end.😈
Fuji, the new Impreza does look like something my 70 year old aunt Wilma would drive. But then she drives very fast.
.Who cares what the front looks like. Everyone that revs on you will quickly be shown the back end.😈
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there is no better handlin and realism of the 22b,
which is based on the champion impreza wrc!
evo=aite, havn't seen this car that much in speedvision dough
so mah vote is subaru 22b,
speaking of the lancer, WTF is up with mitsu??? they get rid of the mirage and replace it with a ...Mirage?? this car is totally diffrent from its big better relative the EVO.
suckx dough front wheel drive and its uglier than a toyota echo!!!!!!!!
which is based on the champion impreza wrc!
evo=aite, havn't seen this car that much in speedvision dough
so mah vote is subaru 22b,
speaking of the lancer, WTF is up with mitsu??? they get rid of the mirage and replace it with a ...Mirage?? this car is totally diffrent from its big better relative the EVO.
suckx dough front wheel drive and its uglier than a toyota echo!!!!!!!!
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huh?
I vote STI ver VI. The Evo VI GSR requires too much effort to tune well. And even when I thought I had it tuned best, it still didn't handle as well as the Subaru! High power, lighter weight, better grip -- no contest.
I vote STI ver VI. The Evo VI GSR requires too much effort to tune well. And even when I thought I had it tuned best, it still didn't handle as well as the Subaru! High power, lighter weight, better grip -- no contest.
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- old-guy64
I was re-reading this thread and decided to do a comparo of the Lancer EVO 6 and The WRX ver. 6.
I went to the dealer and bought fresh cars. Went to the respective tuners and both cars have everything that can be put on them, except full LSD, TSC, ASC, and Race Mod. Both were lightened to stage two.
The cars both weigh in at 2555 lb. Both have stage 3 turbo.
The Lancer edges the Subie out in HP 554 to 490, And Torque, 460 lb/ft to 380.4 lb/ft. I did not run at all power levels, only at stage 3.
In my testing I ran both machines in the 0-400M, 0-1000M and, as is my custom, I ran some fast laps at Midfield.
In the order listed above:
The Lancer ran 10.689, 19.455, and 1:10.065
The WRX ran 10.962, 19.863, and 1:09.212
Both cars handle similarly. They have no hidden evil habits that come out and bite you on the butt at speed. The Lancer is minutely quicker, probably due to its 64 HP and 79.6 lb/ft torque advantage. As for the Subie running eight tenths of a second faster at Midfield...I have two possible explanations, first I ran the Subaru second and had a little better idea of where the braking points were on the track. As there are no distance markers like in GT3, it takes a bit longer. Second, the Subaru's ride height is a bit lower thereby lowering its center of gravity.
If anyone is interested I could throw a 22B into the mix to really stir up the pot, as a fully tuned 22B, with 542 HP, only gives the EVO a 12 HP advantage. (Maybe even add in my beloved Skyline as a Subaru VS Nissan thing.)
Anybody with different results?
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