Take That Dave Mcnamera

[Stangmaster 427]

I completly blew him out of the water last night. I got first in all of the races. The guys at the Need for Speed forum made it seem alot harder. Oh well, one boss down 4 to go I believe. And I'm looking at u Chris Rado with ur outrageouse scion. It's so crazy it made me spell that word wrong.

 

[Luminis]

It's all a matter of what car you're choosing. there's plenty of machinery that'll outright destroy the AWD Scion tC (which isn't that great a car to have anyways, in my opinion).

 

[doozle]

Wondering if anyone can help me out here, what's the best car to use for the Retro Masters. The AE86 just blows every car away.

 

[Starfirebird]

It's all a matter of what car you're choosing. there's plenty of machinery that'll outright destroy the AWD Scion tC (which isn't that great a car to have anyways, in my opinion).

I'm a big fan of the AWD Scion,well for the Nurburgring.

I can fly around the Nurburgring with that car.I think that's the only track where that car runs the best.

 

[Stangmaster 427]

Wondering if anyone can help me out here, what's the best car to use for the Retro Masters. The AE86 just blows every car away.

Use the R32 works spec. Kills him every time.

 

[FLX1981]

Or use a stage 2 (not works mod) Delta Integrale and a lot of defensive maneuvers on the straights... Was some of the most fun and rewarding races I had with the game!

 

[doozle]

I still haven't made any works cars yet

Most of my cars are close to stock.

 

[RomKnight]

I tried works awhile ago after finishing GT3... I think Works is harder for some reason.

Have yet to try after v1.02 patch

 

[freedomweasel]

Wondering if anyone can help me out here, what's the best car to use for the Retro Masters. The AE86 just blows every car away.

I used a works 190e EVO with T-12s tune on it for the final race series. There is a sticky at the top of the forum for the tune thread.

For the rest of the races I used a stock E30 or AE86.

 

[paulpg87]

works delta, destroyed him from the start.

for Rado's Scion i used the murcielago works converted, i was barely able to keep it on track but it was so fast that he didn't even get near me.

 

[///M-Spec]

Wondering if anyone can help me out here, what's the best car to use for the Retro Masters. The AE86 just blows every car away.

Darren McNamara's car is rated at 1510.

So in order to have parity with his hardware, you'll want an similar PI on you car. I used an FD RX-7 with a motor swap rated at 1395. No works and LVL1 body kit just too keep it interesting for myself.

In the game, D-Mac is a quick driver but like all the AI drivers in S2U, leaves tons of room in the braking zone. The key to beating him is to stay with him on the opening lap as you move your way past the other cars and then find an opportunity to make the pass on the brakes. Usually you can do this end of the first lap or beginning of the second, coming off the main straight.

One nice thing about his AI routine is that he is a clean driver and displays none of the moronic aggressiveness many of the other AI drivers show. He won't ram you off the track under virtually any circumstance. That means you won't have to deploy any of the usual hyper-defensive measures you normally need with a fast AI. In addition, you can play quite dirty with him without fear of retribution... if that is how you like to roll.

Honestly, if SMS would just copy his AI routine and paste it to every single AI driver, I would be in heaven playing this game. But instead you are forced to drive with 'life-like human AI'... if the humans happen to be homicidal sociopaths and idiots besides...

Anyone can throw money at a car and beat him with eleventy-billion horsepowers. But if you want to challenge yourself and beat him as a good driver, then build a car near 1500 and upgrade your skills instead.

I would suggest doing multiple practice laps of all the tracks in the series. There should be a target time for each track (it is listed as a event goal during each race). Try beating it in a solo time attack. Once you can do this, you should have no trouble winning the events.

Trust me, beating the AI, even in a slower car is not very tough once you improve your driving. Friend some people in Autolog and compare their times with your own (with similar cars of course). If that doesn't get your competitive juices flowing, nothing will.

If you're on PC, hit me up in Autolog. AvusSilber.


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[doozle]

Darren McNamara's car is rated at 1510.

Well that would explain it, I tried the craziest car I have a 800-900 PI V10 E30. I could keep getting fairly close to him, but I had to drive the pants off the car and kept making mistakes because of it.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I must say, I really enjoyed this event. Used a Works FC RX-7 for it, and was pretty shocked when everyone but Darren brought McLaren F1s.

Really though, the McLaren F1s brought more competition for me than Darren did, even though his car had better acceleration than mine. He spun out on his own on the first race. On the second race, I came in second because a McLaren F1 passed me on the last lap and I couldn't catch up. At Zolder, we both came dead last, with me placing in front of him. At Suzuka, he spun out AGAIN, and I had to hold off the McLarens for the rest of the race. The whole championship was an interesting battle for me. Loved it. Will definitely do it again, maybe with a diffrent car.

 

[tribolik]

I must say, I really enjoyed this event. Used a Works FC RX-7 for it, and was pretty shocked when everyone but Darren brought McLaren F1s.

Really though, the McLaren F1s brought more competition for me than Darren did, even though his car had better acceleration than mine. He spun out on his own on the first race. On the second race, I came in second because a McLaren F1 passed me on the last lap and I couldn't catch up. At Zolder, we both came dead last, with me placing in front of him. At Suzuka, he spun out AGAIN, and I had to hold off the McLarens for the rest of the race. The whole championship was an interesting battle for me. Loved it. Will definitely do it again, maybe with a diffrent car.

Yes I was just saying that in another thread... One of the things I like the most about this game is the fact that the faster the car you choose the harder it gets to beat the AI because they are on faster cars also and it is easy to make more mistakes in fast cars... unlike other games where the faster the car the easier the win (even with sloppy driving)

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Yes I was just saying that in another thread... One of the things I like the most about this game is the fact that the faster the car you choose the harder it gets to beat the AI because they are on faster cars also and it is easy to make more mistakes in fast cars... unlike other games where the faster the car the easier the win (even with sloppy driving)

Agreed. I love this feature too. Makes repeating events more enjoyable thanks to the competitive AI in addition to Autolog. I hope Forza 4 will have AI like this when it comes out.

 

[buziii]

Yes, I did a retro event the other day with a stock D50 Golf MkI. So all the AI's were driving the same car, since there isn't anything similar. Pretty slow race, but it was fun!

One clarifying question: When you're racing in an event against a rival, all you have to do is beat him to win the car, right? You don't have to finish first in the event? I think that's how it works.

 

[RomKnight]

As long as you stay in front of him you win. Same for championships. Just get more points than the opponent to beat

 

[Stangmaster 427]

What the large eyed pony said.

 

[FLIGHT50]

As long as you stay in front of him you win. Same for championships. Just get more points than the opponent to beat

This isn't true. I thought the same thing. My best car that I can beat most with is my works Evo IX. The first lap against Rado I caught him an the other two that were ahead of me. I gained first place midway thru. I figured as as long as I was ahead, I was putting in some pretty fast lap times....Not. After completing my 3 lap Rad kept lowering his time even though I was ahead so I started giving up and ended up crashing out. I placed in 6th. I have to find another car. I will works convert my Lambo and test that one out. I am 2-4 seconds slower than my Works Evo IX so perhaps Works converting the Lambo like mentioned will do the trick.

 

[RomKnight]

I used the 918 Spyder and the Huayra for the championship. I did 1 , 2 ,3 ,1 and beat him because of the points.

 

[Luminis]

By the way, the 'normal' AE86 Works has a slightly higher PI and is a very, very stable car that's pretty easy to drive - and it's quite fun to beat him with a car ssimilar to his

 

[iLex]

I was wondering (also about other events). Do you have to beat him AND get a podium spot to get his car, or is beating him sufficient. And can you do both at different times?

When I did the time attack the first time I was driving a class C car which was a nice drive. Ofcourse I never came close to the Scion, but I did end up second.

The second time around I used a Works Porsche GT2 (I think) and ended up second or third, with the Scion coming in (close to) last I think.

Would I have gotten his car if I ended up in fourth place?


On the retro race I used a B1450ish BMW M3 E30 and ended up in first place. Great fun...