Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims

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Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Government-backed study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial. There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

This is the weakest case against history and education

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Amazing how nobody cares about offending the Jews by not teaching historical fact! Isn't it?

As Danoff put in a thread he made a while ago, why do we tolerate this kind of behavior? Why is it ok to make sure nobody offends Muslims, but Jews, Christians or any other religion is fine to dumb on?(Chocolate naked Jesus for instance http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262602,00.html )
 
Little late for April Fools Day jokes, ain't it?


(Yes, I can see the date on the article. I didn't mean it literally.)


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I'm really getting tired of these kinds of things. I don't see why we are afraid to offend them, what are they really going to do anyway.

The most that could happen is they start a fight, it makes the news, they go crazy, and we nuke em. everybodies happy :D , jk.
 
Society shouldn't have to compromise the education of future generations just because some Muslims aren't happy.

History isn't pretty, and all sunshine and rainbows. Things have happened that some may not agree with, but they happened anyway. We should not push them under the rug just to make someone more comfortable. How can we learn form the past if we have no past to speak of?

Once we begin censoring history, it means nothing. Where should the line be drawn? Stop teaching about every war ever made so pacifists are happy? Make sure nothing that disagrees with the Bible has the potential to offend Creationists? Hell, why not just make crap up? It won't matter by then.


"Those that forget ignore history are doomed to repeat it."
 
Is it just me, or is this absolutely outrageous? If anything, we need to stress the wars against the Muslims and the Persians that preceded them to demonstrate the issues that the West has faced in the thousands of years that have preceded us. If anything, it would allow us to better understand why things are the way they are, and what we can do to 'fix' it.

...The subject of the Holocaust is particularly appalling, given that it is one of the worst events ever to occur in recorded history, and if anything, should be shown to everyone to demonstrate just how evil mankind is. I could care less if you don't believe in it, you're going to hear about it if you're from a Western nation...

These damn PC people drive me freaking crazy... If Jihad is such a good thing in their opinion, I suggest we declare a holy war on them and return things to the way they should be...
 
Much easier solution: those students can sit in the back of the class with their eyes closed and their hands over their ears.
 
Wolfe
Much easier solution: those students can sit in the back of the class with their eyes closed and their hands over their ears.
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Wrong. They must learn objective perspective.
 
Yearh well... How can we have another Holocaust if we can't erase the first one from history....

Muslims are too G** D*** easy to offend... Anything "we" say, can and will be used to justify a little flag and embassy burning... :-|
 
The article doesn't actually say that schools are dropping the subject as a matter of policy, it merely says 'some schools' and 'some teachers' are avoiding the subject. Although this is bad, knowing the Daily Mail's reputation for sensationalism and xenophobic hysteria, we're probably not talking about a very high percentage of schools at all. The article fails to mention any figures, save for the fact that one school (which does teach the holocaust) doesn't also teach The Crusades...

"some teachers are dropping courses covering the Holocaust at the earliest opportunity over fears Muslim pupils might express anti-Semitic and anti-Israel reactions in class.
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This is a similar issue to the Intelligent Design argument against evolution in schools across the US (and increasingly in the UK) - and it should not be tolerated. Pupils have the right to hold whatever religious beliefs they want, but personal beliefs of individuals should not be allowed to influence the factual content of a class - be it historical fact or scientific fact. Ironically, the very people who should be learning about these subjects are the people who choose to deny it - how can you properly argue or even deny something if you know nothing about the facts you intend to deny? The argument against the holocaust is so pathetically weak, they really need all the help they can get. Whereas evolution denial is based on a conflict of interest between personal religious beliefs and scientific evidence, holocaust denial is far more sinister (although equally unproductive) and is purely based on racism and/or (in this case) religious bigotry and intolerance. If a student expressed such sentiments in a class of mine, I'd throw them out the class, simple as that. A similar approach should be applied to this situation. The Holocaust, as a subject, should be (and is, as far as I know) a part of the history curriculum, and as such, it has to be taught. If certain elements in the class don't like it, then they should think about dropping the subject and remain ignorant.
 
Since when is it acceptable to slip things under the rug and hope no one will notice?

Let's just pretend the Holocaust didn't happen, and that way no one will feel offended. Hey, let's also slip all history under the carpet and start a-new.
 
-Diego-
Since when is it acceptable to slip things under the rug and hope no one will notice?

Let's just pretend the Holocaust didn't happen, and that way no one will feel offended. Hey, let's also slip all history under the carpet and start a-new.
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That's what I said.. If we can't forget it or bury it, how can we ever get the option of repeating past mistakes ?....
 
If anything, the Holocaust should be taught to Muslims to show how kind the US really is for not rounding up followers of Islam in a similar fashion after 9/11. Doing so would not right any wrongs, anyhow.

Although I don't think "Holocaust Denial" should be a crime, (people have the basic right to be stupid) it clearly puts a mark on the left-side of a disbeliever's chest with symbolizing ignoramus.

Enough of this pandering; simply put, Muslims aren't to blame for the Holocaust, so why cover this information up? Should we forbid teaching this information to Christians of German descent? How about we not teach the Revolutionary War in American schools for fear that we might offend a few formerly British citizens? This could go on forever...

This is a perfect example of political-correctness eating itself alive because it's hungry.
 
Simmer down guys... I'm not blaming all of you (and myself) for taking Evolution out of the curriculum in some schools, so it's not quite fair to get all worked up at Muslims for taking the Holocaust out.

As for the Crusades... I guess that would depend on how it's taught.

If it's a sober analysis of the politics behind the Crusades, well and good. If it's a paen about how Good Christians attempted to free the Holy Lands from the infidels, then we have a problem.
 
Wolfe
That's what's making them whine and complain in the first place...
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But they must know the objective truth regardless. 🤬 'em.


For instance: I'm annoyed that Juventus were cheating bastards, but I'm not refusing to look into and denying myself an education regarding it.

I'm offended that AIDS is an epidemic, but know that it should be understood, not denied. When AIDS is being talked about in class, nobody has their fingers in their ears shouting, "LA LA LA LA LA!" Being ignorant to history can be just as harmful as being ignorant to a disease. So, despite the people in question (NOT ALL MUSLIMS!) being offended, they still have to learn what happened, especially with an atrocity of such magnitude. To deny the other students from being taught is another atrocity manifested by yet more ignorance.
 
despite the area being pretty hickish, we had a very good history curriculum all through high school, I'm sure this would never even come up in my old school. Not to sy there weren't any Muslims though.
 
Omnis
But they must know the objective truth regardless. 🤬 'em.
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Putting them into shackles and chaining them to their desks wouldn't go over so well, I think.

I'm not claiming that my joke solution was realistic by any means, but it would certainly take care of this:
Omnis
To deny the other students from being taught is another atrocity manifested by yet more ignorance.
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Omnis
To deny the other students from being taught is another atrocity manifested by yet more ignorance.
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And it is ignorance that would lead to more ignorance, making it self perpetuating. And that ball, once rolling, would be near impossible to stop, and could have immeasurable destructive effects. It's crap like this that must be nipped in the bud while we can still control it.

The Muslims have a right not to be offended. But that right should end where it begins encroaching on the rights of others.
 
Opinions are like 🤬 everyones got one and they all stink.

Facts are simply facts. These things should be taught in schools. But then its up to each individual student to decide if they will accept the facts and the evidence that supports them or deny everything with a blind eye and deaf ears.

Its kinda like the whole evolution/darwinism vs. creationism debate. (which I'm not going to go into for fear of opening one helluva can of worms so to speak) I remember hearing a while back that some school districts in Kansas were trying (and maybe suceeded I dunno I'm in Oklahoma) to ban teaching kids evolution/darwinism in the classroom. Hell teach them both and why not show 2001 a space odessey too so they can also hear bout how the aliens started life on this planet.

Anyways all I'm trying to say is people are gonna do/say/belive whatever they want regardless of what I do/say/belive, so give them all the information you can as a teacher and let them go on beliving whatever they want.
 
Why don't we just give these people our country since we're going to do everything else for them.


This has to stop somewhere down the line.
 
Wolfe
Putting them into shackles and chaining them to their desks wouldn't go over so well, I think.
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2nd sentence, power. All I'm saying is that it would be beneficial to them to learn of many perspectives, even though they don't have to believe in them. Of course, we here already know that.

The main concern is that the others' educations are not interfered with.
 
-Diego-
Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Government-backed study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial. There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

This is the weakest case against history and education

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Makes me sick. :yuck:
I suppose the lesser side of me would say something about a certain political view but this story really says everything for itself...

Appease everyone! Yay!
 
Kent
Makes me sick. :yuck:
I suppose the lesser side of me would say something about a certain political view but this story really says everything for itself...

Appease everyone! Yay!
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I'm impressed! No KKK remarks? :lol:

Just messing with you.

3-Wheel-Drive
The Muslims have a right not to be offended. But that right should end where it begins encroaching on the rights of others.
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That's the whole gist of it, I think.

I'm pretty impressed they'll stop teaching the Holocaust so as not to offend the Muslims. Sure enough the Jews must feel much worse about the Holocaust than them, still that didn't stop schools across the world from teaching it. If this goes on, will they stop teaching the Vietnam War in the US or WWII in Germany, for example.
 
This absolutely redonkulous.

Actually, don't talk about the Crusades. Christians died, and it would offend me.
I'm sure the Muslims would not be offended. It's the overly PC attitude that's killing education.
 
well, a lot of Muslims died during the Crusades too... the Muslim tradition speaks of an unending struggle to free Jerusalem from the infidels (Christians), while Western tradition is more of how the Christians defeated the Muslims and took over Jerusalem... or something like that.
 

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