Testing complete - 1 day till Free Practice 1 in Melbourne!

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I read something today about a backmarker team from the early 90s - it may have been Larousse or Lotus - the article mentioned that the cars behind them became dirty because of the higher-than-normal amount of oil in their emissions.

That happened a lot in those days...i remember being at the Monza gp in the late 80s,and whas standing in the pit behind a car(i honestly dont remember what it whas,but probably a McLaren)that fired up...i had light colored pants on and they where completaly covered in oily bits...

Also remember the cars from that era to be completaly black on nose and sidepots at the end of each race...

Yeah times changed :)



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Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but it's F1 related so...

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See what Hamilton can accomplish today... he's currently fastest in the 1:19.7s but it's still early.
 
Ferrari is on fire with De La Rosa on board for Friday. It's believed to be due to an electrical failure with knocked off the alternator. Unlucky for them losing quite some precious mileage...
 
I'll bet you guys right now no one will beat Massa's time on softs, it was a pure saber rattle-type lap, nothing to it. The most we'll see today is maybe a couple cars dipping into the 18s since everyone's going to be running different system checks instead of trying to accomplish any sort of pace.

And that really sucks about DLR and the fire. With testing how it is these days he must be very disappointed since this is one of the very few chances he'll get to drive this year. Feel for him.

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http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/290423/ferrari-catches-fire-as-de-la-rosa-debuts/

Here's the day 3 Ted's notebook video, coming in at a beefy 17 minutes:


Update:
Ferrari says it was a gearbox problem that caused the fire earlier, they're putting in a new one now so hopefully DLR can get back out.

Gutierrez hit an awesome time, 1:18.669, right before getting pipped by Vettel coming in with his 1:18.565 on hards. No telling what tires Esteban was on, but I assume they were softs.

Big hole in the turf !
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Someone caused it to break up and send debris into the track. They red flagged everything for a bit to clear it away then continued on with that hole there. No wonder they're thinking of moving to a different track for initial testing next year.

Update 2:
Red flag again as they try and cement in the whole, commence the Benny Hill music.
No telling how long this will take...
 
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Autosport's live updates on the subject of holegate have been interesting ...
11:57 It is pretty clear that they can't let the test resume until something is done to fix the hole.

11:59 There is now an awful lot of arm waving going on as track workers try and come up with a solution. Red Bull might have to call on the genius of Adrian Newey to work this one out.

12:04 There is now a single track worker left standing near the hole. He is on the phone - either to his bosses or the local DIY store for some quick-drying cement

12:10 Still not much action down at Turn 9. Still a lonely track worker - who is wearing a leather jacket - wandering around.

12:11 Oh, help has arrived. Two men have turned up carrying what looks like some carpet.

12:13 This is like rescue watch on an epic scale. They're now laying some fake kerbing (the black plastic version of a sleeping policeman) over the hole in a bid to fill it.

12:14 Incidentally, we're not sure why it seemed important that one of the track workers was in a leather jacket. But it did.

12:17 Black plastic version of a sleeping policeman not a clear enough description for you. How about a photo then. Once again it's from Jonathan Noble, our resident kerbing and masonry expert.

12:18 Oh, that's been abandoned now. Suggestions that all the repair work has managed to achieve is to make the hole bigger being ignored (possibly because they can't hear us) by the repair men.

12:20 There's nothing like staring at a hole repeatedly without moving for fixing it. We try that quite a lot when our car breaks. Poking around a bit also looks clever.

12:21 And we have cement! The media centre is genuinely (sort of. Mainly it's just AUTOSPORT Live) glued to the action. Can this work? How long will it take? Does the man who was standing and poking around a bit feel miffed that people are now doing something?

12:25 The good news is he's still there in his leather jacket, watching on and occasionally gesticulating. The bad news is that we can't see the state of the hole any more, and of course we no longer have cars out on track. Jonathan Noble makes the odd decision that the Lewis Hamilton press conference might be preferable to this and heads down to Mercedes.

12:33 Hole update: What looked like a big poking stick (we were excited) is actually a blower that is being used to dry the cement faster. Red Bull and Ferrari both have men inspecting the repair job.
Full points for making the best of a bad situation.
 
They really paint a picture for us don't they?

@Centura

Mercedes is testing a new front wing since yesterday so there was bound to be understeering caused by the new wing teething in with the rest of the car and getting initial set up work done.

I'm not sure what's causing the McLaren to understeer everywhere but it could just be Perez getting used to the hards.

And Red Bull's always gonna have more downforce for sure, no surprise there.
 
Well whatever they did, it satisfied the teams, they're green again.

Wanna see something better from Bottas.
 
They really paint a picture for us don't they?

@Centura

Mercedes is testing a new front wing since yesterday so there was bound to be understeering caused by the new wing teething in with the rest of the car and getting initial set up work done.

I'm not sure what's causing the McLaren to understeer everywhere but it could just be Perez getting used to the hards.

And Red Bull's always gonna have more downforce for sure, no surprise there.

Mercedes also said they had understeer with the old front wing, but the car wasn't designed with that one in mind.
 
Right, so the balance won't be there until they situate the new one either.

Update:

Well Jules just set the top time on softs, now he's switched out, somewhat out of the blue, with Di Resta (maybe they told him, " do that time or you'll be our number 2!" xD). So now there's speculation of Bianchi being signed due to the number they chose to run on the car during his runs:

As Pedro de la Rosa has an official non-race driver title at Ferrari, the timing screens have him down as car number 32. Jules Bianchi, who hopes to be promoted to race driver at Force India, has 15 rather than a test driver number. Does that mean something?

Also, glad to see DLR out there after they fixed the car quickly.

And Hamilton's done over 100 laps now, good to see.
 
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3 days 5 hours left. Where did you get 25 minutes?

Great shirt!

When I posted that there was 25 minutes left, usually that site does one shirt a day. Looks like they added a bunch more time? Thanks to them for making me look like a fool. :ouch:
 
No problem, thanks for the effort man 👍

And just an fyi, that would've been better placed in the Lotus launch thread.

And speaking of Lotus, Kimi just went to the top with a 1:18.148 on softs, barely pipping Bianchi.

Here's a shot of Mercedes' new drag reduction device:

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And testing at hehreh is complete!

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Felipe Massa takes honors for fastest time of the week: 1:17.879

Awesome high-res gallery of day 3 btw:
http://expokinetic.com/?p=238
 
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No problem, just excited to take it all in!
 
The E21 is running three roll hoop inlets, with the outer pair used to feed the so-called double DRS device (even though it's passive. Passive in that it doesn't need the DRS to be activated to work. It's regulated, ingeniously, by speed. Keeping the slots that bleed the air out so tiny makes it so you have to be going pretty fast in order for it to actually let enough air out to stall the wing.). The ducting for it isn't being tested yet, so Lotus covered the unused inlets. You'll see the same type of inlets along the airbox in the Mercedes pic I posted about, easy to make it out there. One thing I like about the cars that've used a DRD is that their monkey seats stop looking so much like seats and more like awesome pieces of multi-functional aero, not merely some awkward fixation that catches bleeding scraps of wind that fly onto it. Another thing you'll notice on the Mercedes is the huge periscope/L-duct piece that connects the bottom outlet from the airbox to the rear wing and is definitely not present on the Lotus.

Here's a couple of pictures where you can clearly make out the two red "ears" next to the airbox inlet in the center.

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It's an easy way to tell whether it's being used or not. They probably didn't want to use it for the test in Jerez just yet since there's no substantial straights for good baseline data and also because they would want a cleaner picture of the foundational aero. data.

Here's an awesome old image from when they tested the passive DRD in Germany last year, courtesy of Somers F1:
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1. Ear inlets
2. Internal ducting path for the air
3. Newly connected airbox outlet (longer as well)
4. Periscope
5. Altered Monkey seat (like a mini-diffuser)

And the zoomed in circle highlight shows the small slots that do the magic, letting the air out once the car's going fast enough for the air to get redirected "up" through the periscope and stalling the wing by shooting air across the wing instead of just down past the wing as regularly.

This next image shows the different paths (two tubes) of the air coming from the ear inlets and the regular old airbox.
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The light orange "air" is taking the same path and function as always, but the blue air is coming in through the ears and lets you see how it can hit over the monkey seat and go up through the periscope although they won't be doing this at the same time if I'm understanding all this correctly.

What happens is that at slower speeds, the air is directed down and goes over the monkey seat creating better downforce there, but at higher speed it all gets redirected up through the periscope (again, only the air coming in through the ears) stalling the wing and giving you that beautiful extra gain in straightline speed.
 
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Wardez, now that the Jerez testing has ended I have to thank you for keeping this thread and adding all these bits of tech info to it. Kept coming here first of all places to know what's been happening in southern Spain. Great job, thanks! :)

Meanwhile, I just watched Ted's notebook for this last day so I'll share. Nothing special about it, apart from Pete's (cameraman) fine taste being shown at about 9:02 into the video ... LOL

 
Thanks for posting the Notebook!

Here's the Skysports recap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ_o__2-bZg

And no problem, one of my passions.

Here's a huge piece of news hitting the rumormill.

Rory Byrne is one of the most successful designs of all time, right up there with Gordan Murray and Adrian Newey. The South African engineer designed all of Schumacher's championship winning Ferraris and Benettons as well.

To those unfamiliar with him, Rory Byrne and Adrian Newey have been the designers of every championship winning car between 1992 and 2004. Thats 13 Drivers' Championship and 13 Constructors' Championship winners between the two.

This could be showing that Ferrari had a very good reason to split their teams into two, one working on the 2013 program and the other drawing up the brand new 2014 car.

According to these sources, it's already been a done deal:
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/187701/1/rory_byrne_working_on_2014_ferrari.html

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/fernando-alonso-platz-zwei-nicht-gut-genug-6582466.html


2014 Newey Vs Bryne. Going to be epic.

Here's a nice little infographic breaking down some things:
http://www.vivaf1.com/blog/?p=12716

and more stat's!
http://www.vivaf1.com/testing.php
 
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Have to say thanks for all the information and input you have provided, it's been great. I've learned so much more about the new cars in the last couple of days reading your posts than watching the show on Sky's F1 channel. I haven't seen Day 4 yet though, so I'll watch that a little later.

Thanks Wardez! :)👍
 
Cool, makes me want to keep it up, cheers :D:tup:
 
Loved all the detailed updates and analysis. Thank you very much for sharing and putting this together!
 
For sure man, anytime!

Some news on the Rory Byrne story:
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1...rned-to-Ferrari-to-assist-with-their-2014-car

Looks like he's in more of a supplemental role, not taking over as chief again, which is what a lot of us were hoping for. But he's still going to be a big part of the new 2014 design on the dedicated team designing it.
Current designer Nicholas Tombazis, won't be replaced.
 
Some interesting post-testing info here. As usual based on a fair deal of guesswork, but could be telling come the next testing session.
 
Interesting article for sure, but he doesn't say whether he took tire compounds into account. It would be a huge overlook for Mr. Anderson though... so I don't know. If he did take tires into account, it's brilliant work and shows some surprising results. But I already knew about Red Bull being off pretty much. The surprises would be STR and Mercedes.
 
FW35 reveal, then the start of the first four day test at Catalunya, in 35 minutes.

Updating OP with links as they go live.
 
Anybody know why there no live timing on the BBC?

Oh and now all the cars have been released the Ferrari is the best looking IMO :D
 
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