The '14 driver transfer discussion/speculation thread

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And Red Bull have the largest budget on the grid. If anyone can afford to pay for the development of an independent engine, it's Red Bull.

As for your theory of Red Bull trying to put pressure on Renault, it hold no water - Renault have admitted that they won't be able to make any considerable gains until 2015.
 
I was expressing disdain toward it in agreement with Wardez's comment, do you always make your own context of things, when there is an obvious relation to the comment being quoted.



They both are pay drivers the cooper article and others echo this.



And driving in WEC, it's not that bad really he still had a full time factory drive just not in F1.
Hey how can they pay??????????
 
And Red Bull have the largest budget on the grid. If anyone can afford to pay for the development of an independent engine, it's Red Bull.

As for your theory of Red Bull trying to put pressure on Renault, it hold no water - Renault have admitted that they won't be able to make any considerable gains until 2015.
Redbull know this as there is a hardware freeze till the end of the season, the current pressure is to insure next years supply is up to standard.

There is no way they would be replacing Renault till 2016 and even then I think that engine supplier would be a year away from being competitive.
 
Redbull know this as there is a hardware freeze till the end of the season, the current pressure is to insure next years supply is up to standard.

There is no way they would be replacing Renault till 2016 and even then I think that engine supplier would be a year away from being competitive.
Unless they switched to Honda...
McLaren can't currently design a chassis to save their lives. Honda may want a satilite team?
 
The deal between McLaren and Honda is believed to be exclusive for 2015. Honda can't supply anyone else for a year.

Joe Saward is reporting that Lotus will become the fourth Mercedes team in 2015.
 
Latest rumours on Caterham:

1) Colin Kolles is involved with the Swiss-Emirati buyers, and the project will be separate to Forza Rossa. That sounds odd, but looking back at some of the Forza Rossa stories, it appears Kolles only ever pledged infrastructure and support.

2) A Dutch proposal has been put forward, featuring money from Giedo van der Garde's father-in-law bankrolling the plan, and Christjian Albers put forward as potential team principal (before you scoff at that, remember - success as a driver does not guarantee success as a team owner and/or principal; just ask Alain Prost).

An announcement could be made as early as today.
 
Latest rumours on Caterham:

1) Colin Kolles is involved with the Swiss-Emirati buyers, and the project will be separate to Forza Rossa. That sounds odd, but looking back at some of the Forza Rossa stories, it appears Kolles only ever pledged infrastructure and support.

2) A Dutch proposal has been put forward, featuring money from Giedo van der Garde's father-in-law bankrolling the plan, and Christjian Albers put forward as potential team principal (before you scoff at that, remember - success as a driver does not guarantee success as a team owner and/or principal; just ask Alain Prost).

An announcement could be made as early as today.

And Christian Horner.
 
The sale has been confirmed. And the reality is a mix of the above: the team has been sold to a Swiss/Dubai consortium, with Kolles serving as an advisor to Fernandes and Albers appointed team principal. They apparently plan to continue competing under the Caterham name for the foreseeable future.
 
So Christian Horner is an unsuccessful team principal, is he? What does a successful one look like?
I think he means that while Alain Prost was a successful driver and unsuccessful team principal, Christian Horner represents the polar opposite: an unsuccessful driver who became a successful team principal.

The reason why I made the comment in the first place was because people all over the internet are writing Caterham off simply because Albers wasn't a great driver.

But now they have some new ammo: Mansoor Ijaz, of Quantum Racing infamy, is said to be involved (though if hoodwinking his way into Formula 1 was his plan, I'm not sure how he'd con Fernandes, given Fernandes' business savvy).
 
Albers was not an unsuccessful driver either, I would say. He won German F3, finished 2nd in DTM (winning 5 races there) and was competent in F1. He generally had the better of Freisacher, Doornbos and Monteiro, and was fairly close to Sutil. That's not a bad career at all.
 
Comparing Alain prost to Horner is stupid, Horner is an Employee, Prost was the owner.

Redbull also have alot more money then Prost, and alot is an understatement.
 
Comparing Alain prost to Horner is stupid, Horner is an Employee, Prost was the owner.
Prost also filled the role of team principal.

Redbull also have alot more money then Prost, and alot is an understatement.
Money isn't the issue. Prost just wasn't great at managing the team over the course of a Grand Prix.
 
Prost also filled the role of team principal.


Money isn't the issue. Prost just wasn't great at managing the team over the course of a Grand Prix.
Regardless, the actual comparison can't be made as the way in which they are suited in the team is completely different, Redbull have 3 people in the team(Horner, marko and Mateschitz) doing what Prost did so therefore not a fair comparison.
 
Albers was not an unsuccessful driver either, I would say. He won German F3, finished 2nd in DTM (winning 5 races there) and was competent in F1. He generally had the better of Freisacher, Doornbos and Monteiro, and was fairly close to Sutil. That's not a bad career at all.
You raise a worthy point. It's also worth considering that most drivers who come up through the ranks, never get the chance to even test in Formula One. And the fraction of those who actually get to race, is even slimmer. In that respect, getting a good two and a half a years in the premier series, and scoring a couple of points, shouldn't really be considered bad at all. I'm willing to bet that most drivers in the lower formulae would be willing to give up an arm and a leg, just for that chance.
 
Driver talent in reality has zero to do with managing talent, if it did an ex driver team principal would be a common sight, but it isn't.
 
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